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Old 13-04-2015, 09:36
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I always thought that EastEnders, when they invest and develop in them, are brilliant at creating strong friendships from Den/Pete, Kathy/Pat, Dot/Ethel, Sharon/Michelle and so on. I'd like to see more established friendships/scenes on the square.

Lately these friendships/scenes have been lacking slightly. Are there any friendships you would like to see developing or being revisited on the square?

One of the friendships I would like to see develop more is Shirley/Denise, I think between those two, there is the makings for a great soap friendship that could continue for many years to come.
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Old 13-04-2015, 09:45
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We already have friendships

Eg: Sharon/Linda, Ian/Sharon, Ian/Alfie, Jane/Sonia, Shirley/Denise, Jay/Ben, Kat/Kim.. But yeah we need more friendship scenes. I agree - I like to see more of Shirley and Denise. It's obvious they care about each other so much. Never thought Denise would ever like Shirley again because of the Kevin situation
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Old 13-04-2015, 09:53
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That's exactly what I mean, I probably didn't word it brilliantly, but I would like to see these friendships established and developed more and, more interaction between friends.
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Old 13-04-2015, 10:01
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I think there are a couple of friendships that don't work/make sense at the moment; I don't buy the Ian/Alfie friendship and I don't buy the Sharon/Linda friendship either but I agree about the Shirley/Denise friendship
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Old 13-04-2015, 10:22
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Stacey/Shabnam has worked out unexpectedly well. Although Stacey had memorable friendships with Ruby Allen and Danielle (RIP), this current one with Shabnam is interesting as both have grown up a lot since their first stints and feels more like a bond between two women.

When/How did the Denise/Shirley friendship start? Was it after Kevin's death that they decided to bury the hatchet?

Want to see more of Martin/Kush. IMO Charlie Cotton should become friends with them as there has not been a proper male group of mates since Alfie, Terry and (for a short while) Mick.
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Old 13-04-2015, 10:24
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In earlier years friendships were solid, they were for life...Michelle/Sharon, Dot/Ethel, Bianca/Tiffany, Grant/Nigel, Patrick/Jim, Shirley/Heather etc. These days friendships seem to last for the duration of a s/l and then they're dropped...Lola/Abi, Fats/Whitney, Ian/Mick, Sonia/Jane, Tam/Fats etc.

I suppose we have Stacey/Shabs, Sharon/Linda and Liam/Cindy, but they all feel a bit forced ATM.

I like Shirley/Denise, but will it last longer than her stay at the B&B, it's been very on and off in the past.

I don't mind who they pal up, but they need to make the friendship stick...not best pals one minute and then ignoring each other for months.
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Old 13-04-2015, 11:34
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I would like to see a big storyline for Denise, maybe reexploring her alcoholism/breakdown last year and see Shirley supporting Denise much like Denise has supported Shirley. - the friendship has the foundations to excel, if tptb don't forget about it.

I have noticed that friendships do strike up where a storyline requires it and are then consequently dropped once it concludes but I would like to see more friendships remain post this.

Some friendships I believe in: Ben/Jay, Phil/Shirley, Sharon/Ian/Dot, others I don't: Sharon/Linda, Ian/Alfie, Cindy/Ian. And I still call for a frenemieship between Shazza and Shirl.

Vald also makes a good point, whatever happened to Ian/Mick? Tam/Fats? Jane/Shirley, Kim/Kat? A friend for Cora would be good too.
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Old 13-04-2015, 14:32
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The problem is friendships are shoved in for convenience sake nowadays aside from a couple like Ben/Jay and the older Sharon/Ian which was pre-modern era. Look how when a character gets married a bridesmaid/best man is always some random character they've barely known, Sharon and Linda are only BFFs because they are two female characters of a similar age.
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Old 13-04-2015, 14:37
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The problem is friendships are shoved in for convenience sake nowadays aside from a couple like Ben/Jay and the older Sharon/Ian which was pre-modern era. Look how when a character gets married a bridesmaid/best man is always some random character they've barely known, Sharon and Linda are only BFFs because they are two female characters of a similar age.
Couldn't disagree more. Sharon and Linda come from similar backgrounds. They both grew up in pubs (which is different to not living in one, your home is open to all, you have to eat your dinner extra early etc). They have similar interests like musicals and are overprotective mothers. Sharon has had it hard life overall so done it all by herself and Linda has some naivety but a family support. They balance each other out well in this respect.
Sharon and Linda are far more believable then Sharon and Tanya. Or Sharon and Jane I have no idea why she even likes her or Ian post the vic scandal back in 2005.
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Old 13-04-2015, 14:40
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The friendship between Sharon and Linda is my fav at the moment. The scenes they shared when they went to Sharon's mum's funeral were lovely. Linda telling her she loved Sharon. It was nice because they started off as good friends but fell out when Sharon opened The Albert.

I also liked Bianca and Kat, but once DTC took over, that disintigrated.
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Old 13-04-2015, 16:12
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The problem is friendships are shoved in for convenience sake nowadays aside from a couple like Ben/Jay and the older Sharon/Ian which was pre-modern era. Look how when a character gets married a bridesmaid/best man is always some random character they've barely known, Sharon and Linda are only BFFs because they are two female characters of a similar age.
I'd add Phil/Shirley onto list. It's a love/hate relationship but underlying it is a real friendship. As for Sharon all her friendships since return are contrived. Whether it is Tanya or Linda they are storyline and necessity driven.
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Old 13-04-2015, 16:17
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I'd add Phil/Shirley onto list. It's a love/hate relationship but underlying it is a real friendship. As for Sharon all her friendships since return are contrived. Whether it is Tanya or Linda they are storyline and necessity driven.
Sharon and Linda are more believable and they love each other and have always been there for each other. P
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Old 13-04-2015, 16:18
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If Kat and Alfie come back I think it would work well to have them double date with Mick and Linda. That quartet would work well. Mick and Alfie seem like natural mates and Kat and Linda worked surprisingly well together a few werks back. Mick needs a male friend
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Old 13-04-2015, 16:20
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I much prefer Stacey/Linda over Sharon/Linda...their scenes around Christmas time felt very natural and both Lacey and Kellie worked fantastially together. I wish they'd interact more frequently!

Sharon/Linda are okay, but feel forced on occasion.
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Old 13-04-2015, 16:22
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I much prefer Stacey/Linda over Sharon/Linda...their scenes around Christmas time felt very natural and both Lacey and Kellie worked fantastially together. I wish they'd interact more frequently!

Sharon/Linda are okay, but feel forced on occasion.
Stacey and Linda scenes were good to watch but they were never really good friends. I'm glad Linda confided in Stacey. I'd like to see more of them but it's all about Sharon and Linda in terms of friendships:
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Old 13-04-2015, 16:25
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Sharon and Linda are more believable and they love each other and have always been there for each other. P
They've only known each other a few months. I find it hard to believe that Linda had never had a friend before she moved to Walford. The truth is that Tanya was leaving and they needed a replacement friend for Sharon. It feels forced.
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Old 13-04-2015, 16:26
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I'd add Phil/Shirley onto list. It's a love/hate relationship but underlying it is a real friendship. As for Sharon all her friendships since return are contrived. Whether it is Tanya or Linda they are storyline and necessity driven.
I agree. Phil/Shirley had such a brilliant friendship at the beginning and that has always been there even after everything. It is definitely a love/hate scenario but they always have each others backs in times of crisis, even if they do hurt each other. I would like to see more of their friendship. (So long as Shirley isn't falling at Phil's feet while he is being an ass). I think Shirley is Phil's only real friend, tbh.

I'm not sure about Sharon and Linda, it should work but it does feel like they have just been thrown together as a matter of convenience as two similar characters, rather than a friendship that has developed. They feel forced unlike, Sharon and Ian who are believable as friends and work well together.
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Old 13-04-2015, 16:29
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They've only known each other a few months. I find it hard to believe that Linda had never had a friend before she moved to Walford. The truth is that Tanya was leaving and they needed a replacement friend for Sharon. It feels forced.
Linda probably had friends before but she said she didn't have a best mate in years. But for someone like Linda, she would realistically get plenty of friends. Yeah they had to give Sharon a new friend but I think this is more realistic. They are similar age, they have things in common and both lived in the Vic. Going off topic but I would like to see Mick and Phil become pals.
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Old 13-04-2015, 16:30
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Sharon and Linda are more believable and they love each other and have always been there for each other. P
Love each other? They've only known each other for a few months.
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Old 13-04-2015, 16:30
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I agree. Phil/Shirley had such a brilliant friendship at the beginning and that has always been there even after everything. It is definitely a love/hate scenario but they always have each others backs in times of crisis, even if they do hurt each other. I would like to see more of their friendship. (So long as Shirley isn't falling at Phil's feet while he is being an ass). I think Shirley is Phil's only real friend, tbh.

I'm not sure about Sharon and Linda, it should work but it does feel like they have just been thrown together as a matter of convenience as two similar characters, rather than a friendship that has developed. They feel forced unlike, Sharon and Ian who are believable as friends and work well together.
Phil and Shirley are toxic together.
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Old 13-04-2015, 16:31
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Love each other? They've only known each other for a few months.
"I love you, Sharon Mitchell". That was said by Linda a few months ago. They known each other for over a year, not a few months.
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Old 13-04-2015, 16:31
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Mick. Alfie Ian. Charlie. Vincent imagine them as a group.
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Old 13-04-2015, 16:35
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It doesn't matter that Linda and Sharon haven't known each other that long.

I only met my best friend 14 months ago. We had an instant connection, and I can honestly say they already know me better than I know myself. And it feels like they were always there from the moment I was born.

People can have instant connections. This is obvuously the case for Linda/Sharon
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Old 13-04-2015, 16:36
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I agree. Phil/Shirley had such a brilliant friendship at the beginning and that has always been there even after everything. It is definitely a love/hate scenario but they always have each others backs in times of crisis, even if they do hurt each other. I would like to see more of their friendship. (So long as Shirley isn't falling at Phil's feet while he is being an ass). I think Shirley is Phil's only real friend, tbh.

I'm not sure about Sharon and Linda, it should work but it does feel like they have just been thrown together as a matter of convenience as two similar characters, rather than a friendship that has developed. They feel forced unlike, Sharon and Ian who are believable as friends and work well together.
Agreed. The other friendship that worked was Peter and Lauren. Their scenes immediately after Lucy died were spot on for two with a history of friendship. Their relationship is based on this which is why so many bought into it I think. It felt real rather than the contrived romances that litter soap.

One other Dot and Fatboy.
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Old 13-04-2015, 16:37
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Phil and Shirley are toxic together.
In a relationship capacity, the writing wasn't always great but when on an equal footing, they work brilliantly.
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