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Ronnie's brain damage?
AngelicPrincess
13-04-2015
I am wondering how Ronnie will be in tonights episode?
She has not used her muscles in a long time. There would be wastage.
I am guessing she has facial slacking, slurred if anything speech, limited movement and motor functions? She wont understand many things like before? Weak muscles and very limited movement?

Her breathing and heart stopped for 30 minutes that alone would do it before we add how long she has been in a coma or awake.
She has not moved her face or body in months. She hasn't actually been awake as she hasn't been talking or interacting.

The affect would be huge. Not only would she act different she would look physically very different. It would be obvious to look or listen to her that she is brain damaged.

Will we have a tragic reunion with her son she wouldn't be able to look after or communicate properly with? A real gritty story.
Or is it just the trashy affair plot kicking off again? So she can leave again to film Mount Pleasant?
The_abbott
13-04-2015
I would want it to be so Ronnie struggles for fitness but its all going to be a "does she or doesn't she know about Roxy and Charlie".

I think her speech will be slow or doesn't say too many words to be realistic. I think her mind will be OK. I think she will know about Matthew etc...
MrJames
13-04-2015
Let's not forget that she has actually been in recovery for a few months now. Her state may have improved over that period of time.
AngelicPrincess
13-04-2015
Originally Posted by MrJames:
“Let's not forget that she has actually been in recovery for a few months now. Her state may have improved over that period of time.”

I am sorry that's not realistic. She did not breathe or have a heart beat for 30 minutes!She has not moved muscles in her face that would years at best of recovery before that changed.
Much of it would be irreversible.
They could even do the little attempt at long term physio (and not I don't mean a few weeks post coma in hospital that isn't the same at all) all the while not being able to be a full time mum. Show the struggle.
Her mind would not be that of an adult without brain damage. She would look and be different.

Its typical American soap type BS that we put these attractive ladies in comas after not breathing or a heart beat for 30 minutes to look the same, speak effectively (even if it was slurred) and be sitting upright. Its insulting to the viewer. Phil Mitchell recoveries were implausible but at least possible. This isn't.

I want her struggle not some trashy affair plot like her recovery more suited to a daytime American soap. Imagine Darth Ronnie not being able to speak properly, move and look different. While deep down being furious?

Rather than looking exactly the same, mind like a functioning adult, slightly slurred speech and a tiny bit slow(like someone who has just had a minor op) keeping secrets to herself about some trash affair plot? Its cheap and dumbing down, Sam Womack is capable of more than that.
olivej
13-04-2015
Originally Posted by AngelicPrincess:
“I am wondering how Ronnie will be in tonights episode?
She has not used her muscles in a long time. There would be wastage.
I am guessing she has facial slacking, slurred if anything speech, limited movement and motor functions? She wont understand many things like before? Weak muscles and very limited movement?

Her breathing and heart stopped for 30 minutes that alone would do it before we add how long she has been in a coma or awake.
She has not moved her face or body in months. She hasn't actually been awake as she hasn't been talking or interacting.

The affect would be huge. Not only would she act different she would look physically very different. It would be obvious to look or listen to her that she is brain damaged.

Will we have a tragic reunion with her son she wouldn't be able to look after or communicate properly with? A real gritty story.
Or is it just the trashy affair plot kicking off again? So she can leave again to film Mount Pleasant?
”

what do you think? its going to go down the trashy affair plot tbh isnt it - this is EE after all and Ronnie isnt allowed to be happy or to keep a man!
MrJames
13-04-2015
Originally Posted by AngelicPrincess:
“I am sorry that's not realistic. She did not breathe or have a heart beat for 30 minutes!She has not moved muscles in her face that would years at best of recovery before that changed.
Much of it would be irreversible.
They could even do the little attempt at long term physio (and not I don't mean a few weeks post coma in hospital that isn't the same at all) all the while not being able to be a full time mum. Show the struggle.
Her mind would not be that of an adult without brain damage. She would look and be different.

Its typical American soap type BS that we put these attractive ladies in comas after not breathing or a heart beat for 30 minutes to look the same, speak effectively (even if it was slurred) and be sitting upright. Its insulting to the viewer. Phil Mitchell recoveries were implausible but at least possible. This isn't.

I want her struggle not some trashy affair plot like her recovery more suited to a daytime American soap. Imagine Darth Ronnie not being able to speak properly, move and look different. While deep down being furious?

Rather than looking exactly the same, mind like a functioning adult, slightly slurred speech and a tiny bit slow(like someone who has just had a minor op) keeping secrets to herself about some trash affair plot? Its cheap and dumbing down, Sam Womack is capable of more than that.”

Yes, some of her condition might be irreversible, but other elements can improve over time. I'm just saying that a whole two months has passed since she was able to breathe on her own... enough time has passed for certain aspects of her condition to have changed, but obviously not everything.

And there's also not a rule book for what people in comas may have once they recover. They can affect people in different ways.
AngelicPrincess
13-04-2015
Originally Posted by MrJames:
“Yes, some of her condition might be irreversible, but other elements can improve over time. I'm just saying that a whole two months has passed since she was able to breathe on her own... enough time has passed for certain aspects of her condition to have changed, but obviously not everything.

And there's also not a rule book for what people in comas may have once they recover. They can affect people in different ways.”

I have spoken to about this who are medically qualified all seem to think the same thing, one whom their opinion I value and trust. A friend on another soap forum who is a nurse was telling me in PM its not possible. Even on the episode thread I see a registered nurse saying it. I don't see why they would lie about it. I think these people would know.

People do recover at different paces very true. But there is not a chance in that time frame she would be sitting up and chatting away. Her facial slacking would defiantly still be there. She would act like someone with brain damage in a noticeable way. Her motor functions would be affected.

She was not fully conscious when she came off the ventilator. That alone takes time. Lets say she had come round totally after being taken off, still would not be long enough. For her to be at the stage she is at, not even remotely close or plausible.
And that's before we remember yet again no breathing or heartbeat for 30 minutes. Her brain was dead that entire time that's not a short space of a few minutes either that's serious and irreversible stuff.
I would give artistic license for it to be temporary but not a couple of months after the ventilator was removed, all offscreen. Sorry but no.

We are not even talking realistic we are talking impossible and for what?
I personally would have preferred a realistic darker and gritty plot then some recycled Roxy and Ronnie shag same man plot.
I guess agree to disagree if you prefer this route they are taking. I just think Sam Womack would have done a great job on a plot which would have taken a good actress to do.
Firegazer
13-04-2015
Is she still wearing her wedding dress?

I'm guessing her hair was washed daily, too?
Get Den Watts
13-04-2015
I get the feeling she'll be up and about in no time being Phil's enforcer. Serious injuries and illnesses are largely used as plot devices.

My knee was in a brace for two months and the muscles wasted and they've never come back to full strength and that was 2 years ago, so a coma should leave Ronnie in a much worse state. I say 'should'.
LHolmes
13-04-2015
Ronnie stopped breathing for 10 minutes not 30 during which time she was administered CPR/Oxygen.

Not all coma patients are significantly brain damaged, some do come round with only minor side effects eg. fatigue. As long as she isn't up and about as though she could run a marathon in tonight's episode then I am not going to criticise the show.
spikeyroberto
13-04-2015
erm anyone remember Jack being shot in the head. Pat's cancer!

I am afraid soaps and recovery times/illnesses aren't always the most realistic. We also had a young woman in Emmerdale have mesothelioma which I have not heard of in real life..only in older people.
VIP101
13-04-2015
Well she was like sleeping beauty who just woke up today. I don't think EE are fussed much on the realism.
bass55
14-04-2015
Jack being shot in the head was by far the worst. Especially when you consider the fact he somehow impregnated Ronnie while he was lying in a coma.
danyell
14-04-2015
I bet she will struggle to bond with the baby when she gets home. And the baby will love Roxy more as he's bonded with her. So that will obviously break Ronnies heart. But I guess you could call it poetic justice if that happens. What with the whole baby swap storyline.
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