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Old 16-04-2015, 23:59
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I agree about Lisa. She can be a right nasty piece of work. It still doesn't justify messing with someone's medication or trying to entrap someone very vulnerable on the basis that they might and only might harm or scare your child.
Matriarch Lisa can be very domineering but I like her all the same. Rachel messing with the pills was low. I think this is the build up to Rachel's exit. I'm looking forward to Jai's reaction to her leaving the village again with Archie. After the situation with the other child I can't see him getting custody of Archie. If Rachel packs her bags I think Sam will stay with the Dingles.
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Old 17-04-2015, 01:23
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It's strange that Rachel has made Belle the target of her anger against the Dingles. She was Sean's friend and wasn't close to Charity.
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Old 17-04-2015, 01:50
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It's strange that Rachel has made Belle the target of her anger against the Dingles. She was Sean's friend and wasn't close to Charity.
She's just using Belle as an excuse to leave the Dingle house. Anyone living there could just as easily been used (apart from Sam).
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Old 17-04-2015, 06:37
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Just catching up on yesterday's episode. Rachel said to Sam that some weeks she and Archie did not have money for food. I thought Charity gave her 30k to leave the village?
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Old 17-04-2015, 07:25
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Just catching up on yesterday's episode. Rachel said to Sam that some weeks she and Archie did not have money for food. I thought Charity gave her 30k to leave the village?
Not sure if she went to London, but if she did 30k would not have gone far! She couldn't work anywhere unless she could take Archie along. I don't think Charity would actually have seen Sam sent to prison, but Rachel believed it, so as I understand it she had moved about a lot, her money would have gone on travel, etc,
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Old 17-04-2015, 07:40
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I agree about Lisa. She can be a right nasty piece of work. It still doesn't justify messing with someone's medication or trying to entrap someone very vulnerable on the basis that they might and only might harm or scare your child.
I think she probably regrets this, but she is fighting with her back against the wall. For some reason beyond me she 'loves' Sam and wants a life with him away from his toxic family. They have made it clear that they don't want her there, Lisa even told her that she should have stayed away then Charity wouldn't be in prison!!! So yes it was a despicable thing she did, but it was out of character and out of desperation. I hope she has the sense to move on soon, but for hers and Archie's sake, not to please the Dingles.
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Old 17-04-2015, 07:53
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Can't stand Rachel since she returned. Self obsorbed.
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Old 17-04-2015, 08:14
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Matriarch Lisa can be very domineering but I like her all the same. Rachel messing with the pills was low. I think this is the build up to Rachel's exit. I'm looking forward to Jai's reaction to her leaving the village again with Archie. After the situation with the other child I can't see him getting custody of Archie. If Rachel packs her bags I think Sam will stay with the Dingles.
I like Lisa...without her and Zak at the head of the family...the Dingle's just would not be the same.....But has foe Rachel she's a scheming lying little bitch...I won't be sorry to see her go
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Old 17-04-2015, 09:00
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I've always liked Rachael and Sam together. I was sorry when she left.

I don't like what the producers are doing to Rachael by changing her personality. She was never like that, ok she had an awful time being forced to admit to something she didn't do because of the dreadful, devious Charity but it seems to me they are trying to turn her into a clone of Charity.

Why the Dingles turned on her and showed more of a interest in Tracy, Sam struck a relationship up with her after Rachel but she only took poor Sam for a ride, got him in huge debit yet the Dingles are happy for Sam to be with her not Rachael.
I know if someone put themselves forward for a crime neither committed just to protect them, I know who I would chose. Only someone totally in love with the person would do that. So why can't the silly, pathetic Dingles see that, especially Lisa?

I hope Rachael stays and the producers leave her be and not turn her into a person who is not very nice. Laurel was bearable while she was with Ashley,Malays happy,mhelpful and considerate. Look at her now.
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Old 17-04-2015, 11:05
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I've always liked Rachael and Sam together. I was sorry when she left.

I don't like what the producers are doing to Rachael by changing her personality. She was never like that, ok she had an awful time being forced to admit to something she didn't do because of the dreadful, devious Charity but it seems to me they are trying to turn her into a clone of Charity.

Why the Dingles turned on her and showed more of a interest in Tracy, Sam struck a relationship up with her after Rachel but she only took poor Sam for a ride, got him in huge debit yet the Dingles are happy for Sam to be with her not Rachael.
I know if someone put themselves forward for a crime neither committed just to protect them, I know who I would chose. Only someone totally in love with the person would do that. So why can't the silly, pathetic Dingles see that, especially Lisa?

I hope Rachael stays and the producers leave her be and not turn her into a person who is not very nice. Laurel was bearable while she was with Ashley,Malays happy,mhelpful and considerate. Look at her now.
Well said. I suppose if the village was full of nice people would say it was boring. However it would be nice if there was one person who was consistently normal. I cant think of anyone in Emmerdale who I would like to live next door to. I am surprised that Tina is never mentioned, she and Charity would do well together.
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Old 17-04-2015, 13:06
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They seem to be making her stand up for herself a bit more, but they are making her come over a bit selfish (which is not right).
Maybe they will eventually pair her together properly with Jai? You never know!
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Old 17-04-2015, 13:10
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They seem to be making her stand up for herself a bit more, but they are making her come over a bit selfish (which is not right).
Maybe they will eventually pair her together properly with Jai? You never know!
I've always thought they would make a good couple...I can't imagine what Ali would say..
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Old 17-04-2015, 13:12
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They seem to be making her stand up for herself a bit more, but they are making her come over a bit selfish (which is not right).
Maybe they will eventually pair her together properly with Jai? You never know!
I doubt she'll be around long enough.
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Old 17-04-2015, 14:21
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Really not liking her this time around.

The Belle/Sam stuff with her is so tedious.
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Old 17-04-2015, 15:14
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Just catching up on yesterday's episode. Rachel said to Sam that some weeks she and Archie did not have money for food. I thought Charity gave her 30k to leave the village?
Well spotted, misty cloud. She would have had to spend about £600 a week in the year she was away to get rid of the £30k; hardly the poverty line And Jai's child support would have been going straight into her bank. I didn't like the character first time round and I hope this is only a short contract.
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Old 17-04-2015, 15:54
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Well spotted, misty cloud. She would have had to spend about £600 a week in the year she was away to get rid of the £30k; hardly the poverty line And Jai's child support would have been going straight into her bank. I didn't like the character first time round and I hope this is only a short contract.
Whether you like her or not, to be fair she would have been lucky to get even bed and breakfast for under £50 per night so that would take more than half of her money and did she have a bank account? She seems more like a cash in hand sort of person. I would be surprised also if Jai was giving her child support while she was away, he thought she was probably dead.
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Old 17-04-2015, 17:00
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Whether you like her or not, to be fair she would have been lucky to get even bed and breakfast for under £50 per night so that would take more than half of her money and did she have a bank account? She seems more like a cash in hand sort of person. I would be surprised also if Jai was giving her child support while she was away, he thought she was probably dead.
At £50 per night she could have stayed 600 nights - and she wasn't in London all the time AND she was staying in hostels.
Who charges £50 for a night's B&B anyway?
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Old 17-04-2015, 17:10
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At £50 per night she could have stayed 600 nights - and she wasn't in London all the time AND she was staying in hostels.
Who charges £50 for a night's B&B anyway?
Why was she staying in hostels? 30k is a very comfortable amount for one adult and a baby! If she did stay in a hostel she should have sheds loads of cash left ... I hope she is paying the Dingles board money, or does she think they owe her
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Old 17-04-2015, 17:22
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At £50 per night she could have stayed 600 nights - and she wasn't in London all the time AND she was staying in hostels.
Who charges £50 for a night's B&B anyway?
I never found any B&Bs for much less and are we sure of the amount she was given, I just replayed the court scene where Rachel was testifying, the defence mention 10k which would have gone nowhere.
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Old 17-04-2015, 20:57
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I never found any B&Bs for much less and are we sure of the amount she was given, I just replayed the court scene where Rachel was testifying, the defence mention 10k which would have gone nowhere.
I personally think even £10k is a decent amount of money to start off somewhere with. She could have easily put down a deposit on accommodation and started work somewhere like normal people do.

What on earth did she do all day every day
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Old 18-04-2015, 08:40
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I think she probably regrets this, but she is fighting with her back against the wall. For some reason beyond me she 'loves' Sam and wants a life with him away from his toxic family. They have made it clear that they don't want her there, Lisa even told her that she should have stayed away then Charity wouldn't be in prison!!! So yes it was a despicable thing she did, but it was out of character and out of desperation. I hope she has the sense to move on soon, but for hers and Archie's sake, not to please the Dingles.
Im not sure that it is out of chsracter now. She's changed a lot, as you would if you'd been through what she has. She only thinks of herself and Archie now and wants to make others suffer. But in reality her beef is with Charity. Lisa and Zak have been horrible to her, but Sam and her need to sort that out with them, not involve Belle.
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Old 18-04-2015, 09:41
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I can see why Rachel is doing what she is doing.

She sacrificed herself for Sam and has had to get tough to survive. She comes back and Sam is with Tracey and Lisa and the rest of the Dingles are treating her like crap for "leaving our Sam" even though Charity set her up.

Sam comes back to her and Rachel moves into the Dingles where Lisa treats her like something she trod in. Sam won't move into their own place and then she finds out that the family are visiting the woman who ruined her life.

I agree that the pills thing was bad but she was about to put them back when Belle came in.
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Old 18-04-2015, 10:37
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Lisa is a screaming ld biddy who wants everything her way and is never wrong, Zac used to be a strong dependable guy who was all about his family, Belle has always been a big pain in the backside and as for Sam, he is about as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike.

All the Dingles have at sometime treated Rachel like dirt, instead of backing her they back up those lying thieving skanks Tracy and Charity. She feels isolated because Sam will not back her up or move out of his fathers house as she has asked him too. Her nasty bitch of a sister is blaming her for taking her job at the massive sweet factory, and blaming her for Sean for some reason, when, if Ali had kept her mouth still for a moment, Rachel was keeping her job open for her, not taking it away from her.

If I was Rachel, I would clear off again and sod the lot of them, nasty, spiteful bunch of people. No wonder the poor girl feels so isolated, wouldn't you?
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Old 18-04-2015, 14:05
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I can see why Rachel is doing what she is doing.

She sacrificed herself for Sam and has had to get tough to survive. She comes back and Sam is with Tracey and Lisa and the rest of the Dingles are treating her like crap for "leaving our Sam" even though Charity set her up.

Sam comes back to her and Rachel moves into the Dingles where Lisa treats her like something she trod in. Sam won't move into their own place and then she finds out that the family are visiting the woman who ruined her life.

I agree that the pills thing was bad but she was about to put them back when Belle came in.
but why did she move in to the Dingles? I don't blame her for being p****d off with Charity but why move in with her family? Surely she knows blood is thicker than water especially among the Dingles and again I ask the question is she paying board?? She is throwing her weight around far to much for a guest in someone's house.
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Old 18-04-2015, 14:11
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Lisa is a screaming ld biddy who wants everything her way and is never wrong, Zac used to be a strong dependable guy who was all about his family, Belle has always been a big pain in the backside and as for Sam, he is about as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike.

All the Dingles have at sometime treated Rachel like dirt, instead of backing her they back up those lying thieving skanks Tracy and Charity. She feels isolated because Sam will not back her up or move out of his fathers house as she has asked him too. Her nasty bitch of a sister is blaming her for taking her job at the massive sweet factory, and blaming her for Sean for some reason, when, if Ali had kept her mouth still for a moment, Rachel was keeping her job open for her, not taking it away from her.

If I was Rachel, I would clear off again and sod the lot of them, nasty, spiteful bunch of people. No wonder the poor girl feels so isolated, wouldn't you?
Exactly. I am afraid that this is now turning into a bad case of playground bullying. Rachel is understandably bitter about the way that she was welcomed back and has shown it but the village wtches are out in force, I am surprised they are not building a bonfire!!
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