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I'm convinced Shirley is Babe's daughter!
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Collins1965
14-04-2015
I am afraid that you are right and imo it would be overkill and just ridiculous. We already had the Shirley/Mick situation and that was more than enough.

I can't abide Babe (or Sylvie) and they are both still hanging around like a bad smell so a big reveal must be on it's way....

It's just too much on top of everything else.
broadshoulder
14-04-2015
Babe, shirley,Sylvie, buster, dean need a good kicking

Keep mick,linda, Lee, Nancy, and Elaine as the basic family

Shoot the rest
ayrshire lass
14-04-2015
She's not old enough to be Shirley's mother , not unless she had her when she was about 12! Shirley's in her 50's and Babe only looks in her mid 60's to me, whereas Stan was about 80, a big age gap between him and Babe, so don't believe for a minute she coud be Shirley's mother!
Ell_Ren
14-04-2015
Originally Posted by broadshoulder:
“Babe, shirley,Sylvie, buster, dean need a good kicking

Keep mick,linda, Lee, Nancy, and Elaine as the basic family

Shoot the rest”

I'm very much the opposite. Babe, Shirley, Sylvie and Buster are my favourites, I think they are the most interesting.

I don't mind Mick and Tina.

Not sure on Linda, Nancy, Lee and Elaine but I prefer Linda and Nancy to Lee and Elaine.

Miss Stan, already!

I don't think Babe is Shirley's mum, I think Babe just muscled in on the family and tried to take over that role. DTC said that Linda Marlowe was in his head as Shirley's mum ever since Shirley first arrived.
Randomguy83
14-04-2015
I hope not. I'm fed up of all the Carter stories as it is without ANOTHER family secret thrown in to the mix.
little-monster
14-04-2015
I bloody hope not

It gave me the impression though that Babe and Stan never got any close though. Her love for him wasn't mutual and he hated her guts anyway. So unless she drugged and raped him, i don't see how Shirley could be hers.
srhgts
14-04-2015
Stan could not be her father either, though. Or he could have had a drunken one night stand with Babe or something, maybe part of the reason he hates her is regret for that. I hope Babe isn't Shirley's mum of course, it'd be ridiculous, but Stan hating Babe wouldn't necessarily mean she couldn't be.
Collins1965
14-04-2015
I think Stan may have been so drunk he can't (or couldn't) remember it. Babe was only about 16 when she met him I think and had a huge crush on him but he fell for Sylvie the first time he saw her. I wouldn't put it past Babe to seduce Stan when he was totally bladdered but doing another baby mother switch on Stan seems just plain out there!
Aurora13
14-04-2015
Is it the physical resemblance? LOL
Ell_Ren
14-04-2015
Sylvie remembers having Shirley and Tina. Not Mick. If Shirley wasn't hers, she wouldn't have remembered this.
Collins1965
14-04-2015
Originally Posted by Ell_Ren:
“Sylvie remembers having Shirley and Tina. Not Mick. If Shirley wasn't hers, she wouldn't have remembered this.”

That is true but I wouldn't put it past DTC to do a retcon on it.

They obviously have some big secret reveal coming up and I can't think what else would have such a big impact.
Ell_Ren
14-04-2015
Originally Posted by Collins1965:
“That is true but I wouldn't put it past DTC to do a retcon on it.

They obviously have some big secret reveal coming up and I can't think what else would have such a big impact.”

Apparently from spoilers the reveal is something that would get both Babe and Sylvie in trouble with the police and 'if Babe goes down, Sylvie is going with her' so I don't think Babe is Shirley's muvva.
Collins1965
14-04-2015
Originally Posted by Ell_Ren:
“Apparently from spoilers the reveal is something that would get both Babe and Sylvie in trouble with the police and 'if Babe goes down, Sylvie is going with her' so I don't think Babe is Shirley's muvva.”

The mind boggles!!

Maybe Sylvie's first baby died and Babe stole another baby for her to take home and Shirley isn't a Carter at all
Evilredzebra
14-04-2015
Originally Posted by Caza_Bellow:
“I sometimes sit with bated breath and imagine little Peggy materialsing from behind the Queen Vic bust during a Carter dinner. Then she shrieks: "You Carters think you're all that, when really, you're just a bunch of hyprocrites, especially you Linda Carter boring us all to death with your faaaamily morals!"

Linda - "You must be Peggy. Can I get yo...

Peggy - "Oh save your hospitality for some other fool you silly blonde tart!"

Mick - "You've had your fun grandma, now git outta ma booza, before I say something I regret!"

Peggy - "I don't think you know who you're dealing with. I ain't some little old lady - I'm Peggy Mitchell!"

Mick then grabs Peggy by the arm and attempts to remove her from the Vic, that is until a familiar voice says "Get your hands off her". Mick stops in his tracks and looks on in horror at who stands before him

Grant - "I agree with mum. You're all fu**king idiots, the whole lot of you!"

Mick cries like a baby and the rest flee from the Vic. Little Peggy looks up to Grant and says "Ahh, it's good to be home" followed by her iconic giggle. *DUFF DUFF*

One can dream.. ”

I love the Carters but this would be brilliant!
Ell_Ren
14-04-2015
Originally Posted by Collins1965:
“The mind boggles!!

Maybe Sylvie's first baby died and Babe stole another baby for her to take home and Shirley isn't a Carter at all ”

VIP101
14-04-2015
It would be ridiculous if they did that now. Instead they should have made Shirley, Tina or Mick one of Babes children she had after an affair with Stan - that's the reason the mum really left. Better then this utter rubbish thrown down our throats every chance they get.
srhgts
14-04-2015
Originally Posted by VIP101:
“It would be ridiculous if they did that now. Instead they should have made Shirley, Tina or Mick one of Babes children she had after an affair with Stan - that's the reason the mum really left. Better then this utter rubbish thrown down our throats every chance they get.”

That really would have been much better.
Ell_Ren
14-04-2015
Originally Posted by VIP101:
“It would be ridiculous if they did that now. Instead they should have made Shirley, Tina or Mick one of Babes children she had after an affair with Stan - that's the reason the mum really left. Better then this utter rubbish thrown down our throats every chance they get.”

I like the Mick/Shirley twist.
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