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Eastenders- Why did Buster and Shirley tell Dean that Stan died? |
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Eastenders- Why did Buster and Shirley tell Dean that Stan died?
Fair enough Dean was close to Stan and he has the right to know but obviously the news would upset him and make him cry. After they told him, they said not to cry in prison because it showed weakness but he could have stayed strong if they hadn't told him.
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So true.
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Better for them to tell him there than when we got out and missed the funeral. That would probably send him off the deep end.
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I think they did the right thing telling Dean, it would have been worse for them to have kept quiet.
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I think they did the right thing telling Dean, it would have been worse for them to have kept quiet.
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Dean knew he had days to live so they had to tell him sooner rather than later, I'd say.
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Better for them to tell him there than when we got out and missed the funeral. That would probably send him off the deep end.
What is odd is that they weren't allowed a private room (like Dot with Sonia) or that the governor didn't inform him one to one. |
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Dean can just thank his lucky stars he is not sharing a cell in Emerald city with Vern Schillinger.
I am really enjoying the repeats of Oz!
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That's the part I understand. What I don't get is why Mick was so upset that she was going to tell him.
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That's the part I understand. What I don't get is why Mick was so upset that she was going to tell him.
The other thing that confused me was, when Cora told Mick he was just like his mother, did she mean Shirley or Sylvie? I can't see that she wouldn't know the truth but her and Shirley get along, so I don't see why she would talk about her that way, whereas Cora doesn't like Sylvie? They really need to clarify who knows and who doesn't, I didn't know that Denise knew until Shirley mentioned about Mick being his brother. |
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I think Mick probably felt that shirley was immediately abandoning the family she should be with to comfort and share grief (him, Tina and the kids) for Dean. Unfair perhaps but he is very blinkered where Dean is concerned - understandably.
I assume she meant Sylvie. I do,kt think many people know about Mick's true parentage. Shirley was surprised that Sharon did only a couple of weeks ago. |
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I don't think they expected him to cry out loud the way he did. I didn't. He had a right to know.
Not like Cora. The poor cow had to go all the way to the hospice to find out about Stan's death. No one bothered to tell her. |
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That is Shirley all over though - not to ring anybody. I think she should have rung the Vic and Cora as soon as it happened. They might have wanted to see Stan before he was moved to the Morgue besides anything else
I can see that people will argue news like that shouldn't be given over the phone but it wasn't unexpected. They knew it was a question of days at most, more likely hours. |
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Mick appears to have lost all sense of reason when it comes to Dean. Which is understandable to an extent but I'd wager that even his victim would acknowledge that he needed to be told his grandad had passed away.
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Fair enough Dean was close to Stan and he has the right to know but obviously the news would upset him and make him cry. After they told him, they said not to cry in prison because it showed weakness but he could have stayed strong if they hadn't told him.
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That is Shirley all over though - not to ring anybody. I think she should have rung the Vic and Cora as soon as it happened. They might have wanted to see Stan before he was moved to the Morgue besides anything else
I can see that people will argue news like that shouldn't be given over the phone but it wasn't unexpected. They knew it was a question of days at most, more likely hours. |
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Fair enough Dean was close to Stan and he has the right to know but obviously the news would upset him and make him cry. After they told him, they said not to cry in prison because it showed weakness but he could have stayed strong if they hadn't told him.
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I think Mick probably felt that shirley was immediately abandoning the family she should be with to comfort and share grief (him, Tina and the kids) for Dean. Unfair perhaps but he is very blinkered where Dean is concerned - understandably.
I assume she meant Sylvie. I do,kt think many people know about Mick's true parentage. Shirley was surprised that Sharon did only a couple of weeks ago. |
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I think Shirley and Buster did the right thing telling Dean as well. If they hadn't, it would cause even more drama.
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Dean can just thank his lucky stars he is not sharing a cell in Emerald city with Vern Schillinger.
I am really enjoying the repeats of Oz! ![]()
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I love you for this. Oz is one of my all-time favorite shows.
![]() So it being repeated from the beginning on CBS Action (64) on Freeview is a real treat. ![]() TPTB probably think that the Philth would waltz in and 'own' people like Adebisi - they would of course be very, very wrong.
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I missed the first series when it was shown many years ago on Channel 4 - but watched every episode from the beginning of season 2.
So it being repeated on CBS Action (64) on Freeview is a real treat. ![]() TPTB probably think the Philth would waltz in and 'own' people like Adebisi - they would of course be very wrong. ![]()
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They could still see Stan at the funeral parlour. Stan didn't want them there at the end as he didn't think they could cope, I thought that as he died in the night, Shirley lay with him awhile, returned to the square and went straight to the Vic and told them. I would probably say that even if they were awaiting the news, it wouldn't be something you would want to hear over the phone, even if you were expecting it.
People aren't concerned about being disturbed in the middle of the night when it is something like that and Shirley didn't have the right to take the decision as to whether they saw him straight after death away from them. Not being at his side at the end was different, Stan requested that and his wishes had to come first. But after he'd gone, the family had a right to decide for themselves. Maybe Tina would have liked a cuddle before his dead body was taken away, same as Shirley did? Ikm not saying this to get at Shirley, i'd be the same if a character I usually like had done it. It is just what I really think from my personal experience but I appreciate others will have different views based on their personal experiences. |
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I thought this too, about Sylvie but wasn't sure. Who actually knows about Mick's true parentage? Just Phil, Sharon and Denise? I would have liked to have seen Denise's reaction on screen actually. I'm not too keen on Elaine, but her reaction too.
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Oh there you go, Tamwar does know.
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