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Ola will return to SCD
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CaroUK
20-04-2015
Ola's accident happened in the very early stages of training for The Jump, at an indoor ski slope.

From what we saw of that stage of training, they were basically teaching the celebs how to ski - something that thousands of people do every year without damaging their knee ligaments, and I'm surprised that, as a Pole, Ola wasn't already able to ski - at least at a basic level (maybe she can - we don't know) I think that she was just unlucky - had a bad fall or collided with someone or twisted her knee when trying to stop - I very much doubt that at that point of prepping for the show, they were doing any of the more bonkers activities they did in Austria.

As far as breaking her contract - Strictly employs the pros for 3 months of the year, what are they supposed to do the other 9 months?? They all have a living to make - be it tours, teaching, showcases etc. Ola's celebrity had been booted before the accident, and her participation after that was minimal and she probably had time on her hands to do other stuff (train for the jump) as she didn't need to train with Steve. I could understand the outrage more if the accident had happened while she was still competing, but she wasn't!
chachachavvy
20-04-2015
But, according to Robin Windsor, Ola pulled a sickie on the day she got injured rehearsing for The Jump. She got James to call in sick for her, missed rehearsals, and got caught out by the injury.
fatskia
20-04-2015
Originally Posted by CaroUK:
“Ola's accident happened in the very early stages of training for The Jump, at an indoor ski slope.

From what we saw of that stage of training, they were basically teaching the celebs how to ski - something that thousands of people do every year without damaging their knee ligaments, and I'm surprised that, as a Pole, Ola wasn't already able to ski - at least at a basic level (maybe she can - we don't know) I think that she was just unlucky - had a bad fall or collided with someone or twisted her knee when trying to stop - I very much doubt that at that point of prepping for the show, they were doing any of the more bonkers activities they did in Austria.

As far as breaking her contract - Strictly employs the pros for 3 months of the year, what are they supposed to do the other 9 months?? They all have a living to make - be it tours, teaching, showcases etc. Ola's celebrity had been booted before the accident, and her participation after that was minimal and she probably had time on her hands to do other stuff (train for the jump) as she didn't need to train with Steve. I could understand the outrage more if the accident had happened while she was still competing, but she wasn't!”

Ola was being given lessons to learn to ski. It was a very simple minor fall.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPo-JcN9CaA
aggs
21-04-2015
Originally Posted by CaroUK:
“Ola's accident happened in the very early stages of training for The Jump, at an indoor ski slope.

From what we saw of that stage of training, they were basically teaching the celebs how to ski - something that thousands of people do every year without damaging their knee ligaments, and I'm surprised that, as a Pole, Ola wasn't already able to ski - at least at a basic level (maybe she can - we don't know) I think that she was just unlucky - had a bad fall or collided with someone or twisted her knee when trying to stop - I very much doubt that at that point of prepping for the show, they were doing any of the more bonkers activities they did in Austria.

As far as breaking her contract - Strictly employs the pros for 3 months of the year, what are they supposed to do the other 9 months?? They all have a living to make - be it tours, teaching, showcases etc. Ola's celebrity had been booted before the accident, and her participation after that was minimal and she probably had time on her hands to do other stuff (train for the jump) as she didn't need to train with Steve. I could understand the outrage more if the accident had happened while she was still competing, but she wasn't!”

That's the point, surely? The injury occurred when she was prepping for another show while still under the 3 month BBC contract and not in the 9 month 'free' period. Whether her participation was minimal or not - she still had contractual obligations to fulfil. Which she couldn't. All she had to do was wait a week or 2 at the most to be free and contractually clear.

Surely anyone who has ever uttered the words 'what can go wrong' knows that somewhere Mr Murphy is perusing his Law while rubbing his hand and muttering 'let's see'.
olivej
21-04-2015
Originally Posted by CaroUK:
“Ola's accident happened in the very early stages of training for The Jump, at an indoor ski slope.

From what we saw of that stage of training, they were basically teaching the celebs how to ski - something that thousands of people do every year without damaging their knee ligaments, and I'm surprised that, as a Pole, Ola wasn't already able to ski - at least at a basic level (maybe she can - we don't know) I think that she was just unlucky - had a bad fall or collided with someone or twisted her knee when trying to stop - I very much doubt that at that point of prepping for the show, they were doing any of the more bonkers activities they did in Austria.

As far as breaking her contract - Strictly employs the pros for 3 months of the year, what are they supposed to do the other 9 months?? They all have a living to make - be it tours, teaching, showcases etc. Ola's celebrity had been booted before the accident, and her participation after that was minimal and she probably had time on her hands to do other stuff (train for the jump) as she didn't need to train with Steve. I could understand the outrage more if the accident had happened while she was still competing, but she wasn't!”

that is the point - she BROKE HER CONTRACT, you dont break a contract, simple, no matter what the circumstances, Ola should NOT have been working for a rival tv programme, or training for one or anything at all whilst under contract for the BBC
kaycee
21-04-2015
Originally Posted by olivej:
“that is the point - she BROKE HER CONTRACT, you dont break a contract, simple, no matter what the circumstances, Ola should NOT have been working for a rival tv programme, or training for one or anything at all whilst under contract for the BBC”

I'm not so sure Ola 'broke her contract'. The Strictly pros contracts don't include clauses that forbid them to do anything else. There's one who likes driving fast cars, another who has been horse riding, and all of them go up and down stairs and cross busy roads - all things that potentially could lead to accidents.

Ola's skiing training at that time was a private arrangement, not something arranged by a rival tv programme; the fact that she was hoping it would give her an edge in another tv show, may, in retrospect have been unwise, but still irrelevant.
wazzyboy
21-04-2015
Originally Posted by kaycee:
“I'm not so sure Ola 'broke her contract'. The Strictly pros contracts don't include clauses that forbid them to do anything else. There's one who likes driving fast cars, another who has been horse riding, and all of them go up and down stairs and cross busy roads - all things that potentially could lead to accidents.

Ola's skiing training at that time was a private arrangement, not something arranged by a rival tv programme; the fact that she was hoping it would give her an edge in another tv show, may, in retrospect have been unwise, but still irrelevant.”

So not provided by The Jump's producers as part of her contract with them?
CaroUK
21-04-2015
As none of us have actually seen the pro dancer's contracts, a heck of a lot of this is pure speculation on our parts.

I can't actually seeing them containing any clauses which restrict their commercial activity or committing to work outside the time they are signed to Strictly. I'd assume they stipulate that during the lead up to and the run of the show, they are committed to rehearsing the pro dance routines, and to however many hours their celeb partner is able to train in a location of the celebs choice. They also have to put in a certain number of appearances on ITT as well as rehearsals on set on Fridays and the show on Saturday as per comments from several pros. Yes while their celeb is still competing they have little time to do their own projects, but i can't see any clause limiting what they can do in their own time being valid - they are entitled to a private life.

Ola's participation in the upcoming Jump was in the public domain - so no secret, and this whole incident (in the light of the information above) looks like she was taking the opportunity to sneak in some skiing lessons to gain an advantage on the Jump, once she and Steve were eliminated from the show. She had a couple of pro dances left to film, and was expected to decorate Claud Nine on a Saturday, but as we saw, she had clearly already completed the Take That routine for the final, so there must not have been too much she missed as a result of her accident! Thousands of beginners learn to ski every year, the vast majority with no incident. Ola was just unlucky - the fall didn't look that horrendous, but she ripped her ligament - sheer bad luck!

I get that some folk don't like the Jordan's - well,that's OK, life would be boring if we all liked the same things, and I'll agree that James is a first class prat who engages mouth before brain. However, Ola hasn't done anything as provocative as he has, and last series she was being given a hard time by posters simply because he was gobbling off on Twitter - nothing to do with her. She seems to have done her best with a physically unsuitable celeb (his previous injuries seem to have been a real problem for her to choreograph round), and what was her reward - getting hauled through a trial by tabloid over the alleged bullying of a bloke twice her size, and despite nearly all her previous partners (and James) coming to her defence. Why Steve didn't say anything to defuse the situation, still confuses me, but ithe fact he didn't must have put a strain on their relationship, even if it had been good before the story came out.

Ola is one of the prettiest pros on the show, as well as being a pretty good trained BALLROOM dancer - something the show really needs. There are too many Burn the Floor/ SYTYCD types coming in now, and it's changing the show away from its successful format
aggs
21-04-2015
Please can we stop with the misconception that a person can only be bullied by a person who is physically larger than them and that because some people like/get on with a person everyone else must do as well?

I - like most here - don't know the truth of the matter but the relative size of them both is by and large irrelevant and not a reason for either corroboration or dismissal.
Ellie1967
21-04-2015
Originally Posted by aggs:
“Please can we stop with the misconception that a person can only be bullied by a person who is physically larger than them and that because some people like/get on with a person everyone else must do as well?

I - like most here - don't know the truth of the matter but the relative size of them both is by and large irrelevant and not a reason for either corroboration or dismissal.”

Exactly! Thank you It's no wonder so many men suffering from domestic abuse don't want to tell anyone about it considering the attitudes some people still seem to have.

I'm also not completely convinced by the argument that James' behaviour is nothing to do with Ola. I would have thought that most women whose husband frequently criticised their employer, put them in an awkward position with their work colleagues and possibly jeopardised their job, would ask them to stop. If they have the loving relationship everyone says James and Ola have then presumably he would stop for her sake. The fact that she hasn't put a stop to it and has often endorsed his comments, suggests she is pretty happy with the way he behaves. If she dislikes the show or what it has become as much as James appears to, you have to wonder why she would want to come back at all.
kaycee
22-04-2015
Originally Posted by wazzyboy:
“So not provided by The Jump's producers as part of her contract with them?”

No, she was practising on an indoor slope, something which she had arranged for herself, presumably to give herself a head start for when official training for The Jump started. It was not part of The Jump's contract.
fatskia
23-04-2015
I could understand people suggesting that Ola was too commited, but not that she is not committed enough to getting the best out of her celeb.

Both the Jordans are the same. They will commit 100% to getting the best performance out of their celeb and they expect the celeb to do the same if they are young enough and able enough. Pain is not a high value commodity to the Jordans.

I followed Ola and Ash 2 years ago and Ola spent many days on her own in Liverpool on standby for when she would get a chance for a few hours training with Ash. That might be at 9 pm and they would train into the early hours of the next day.

Andrew Castle is a good example to illustrate this.
They had a spat, where they said what had to be said - gained an understanding and it made them a strong team.
http://go.redirectingat.com/?id=127X...ge%3D3&xtz=-60
They both got broken bones in their feet before Round 3 but danced on and were eliminated in Round 7.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/cele...oken-feet.html
Andrew passes the character test with flying colours.
dancingbearbear
23-04-2015
Well, it looks like she is back after all
fatskia
23-04-2015
I may not agree with taking Strictly away from its Ballroom roots towards Burn the Floor, but Louise Rainbow has made some good decisions as well.
edy10
23-04-2015
yay ; so happy that she is back :
Seymour
23-04-2015
Great news that Ola is well enough to come back, good luck to her.
Aurora13
23-04-2015
Excellent. It was a no brainer for BBC if she wanted to do it. The nastiness on DS is just that and of no relevance to real world.
fatskia
23-04-2015
Originally Posted by Aurora13:
“Excellent. It was a no brainer for BBC if she wanted to do it. The nastiness on DS is just that and of no relevance to real world.”

How dare you! This IS the real world!
thenetworkbabe
23-04-2015
Originally Posted by dancingbearbear:
“Well, it looks like she is back after all ”

Indeed , it shows the wisdom of waiting, rather than speculating .

There wasn't much doubt of it. She's one of their biggest stars, they have had terrible trouble finding popular females, her choregraphy gets more praise than most, and her come back from injury is a big, big,story. And the BBC would look terrible if they rejected her because of her injury, or because of her husband saying things, or because she attracts criticism, from a tiny minority of the audience.. From her twitter , she's just been for a major checkup on the knee and is doing well. Once she passed that medical hurdle, there was no reason not to have her back. She'll be there - presumbly as long as she wants to be, and the knee doesn't worsen.
*Topaz*
23-04-2015
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“Indeed , it shows the wisdom of waiting, rather than speculating .

There wasn't much doubt of it. She's one of their biggest stars, they have had terrible trouble finding popular females, her choregraphy gets more praise than most, and her come back from injury is a big, big,story. And the BBC would look terrible if they rejected her because of her injury, or because of her husband saying things, or because she attracts criticism, from a tiny minority of the audience.. From her twitter , she's just been for a major checkup on the knee and is doing well. Once she passed that medical hurdle, there was no reason not to have her back. She'll be there - presumbly as long as she wants to be, and the knee doesn't worsen.”

Well you're speculating as to why she's back - personally I disagree with the opinions you've stated that the BBC asked her back - I think I can guess a few reasons why she's back but then that would just be more speculation.....
Aurora13
23-04-2015
Originally Posted by *Topaz*:
“Well you're speculating as to why she's back - personally I disagree with the opinions you've stated that the BBC asked her back - I think I can guess a few reasons why she's back but then that would just be more speculation.....”

Do you know her personally? Why is her being popular with the general public not sufficient enough reason for BBC wanting her back. Many of the girls recently brought onto the show have not had anything like the impact. If you gave Strictly viewers photographs of all the girls I suspect Ola is known by almost everyone and many of others who have high name recognition will be those who have actually now left the show. That in my view if why Ola retains her position.
Amethyzt
23-04-2015
Originally Posted by edy10:
“yay ; so happy that she is back :”

Me too ........ really good news
*Topaz*
23-04-2015
Originally Posted by Aurora13:
“Do you know her personally? Why is her being popular with the general public not sufficient enough reason for BBC wanting her back. Many of the girls recently brought onto the show have not had anything like the impact. If you gave Strictly viewers photographs of all the girls I suspect Ola is known by almost everyone and many of others who have high name recognition will be those who have actually now left the show. That in my view if why Ola retains her position.”

For God's sake where did I even suggest I know Ola personally?

All I did was disagree with a poster who has a habit of posting their opinions as fact!

I don't agree that Ola's 'popularity' is the main reason she's back. Is that ok? Lilia and Darren were popular pros and they were eventually axed.
dancingbearbear
23-04-2015
Originally Posted by *Topaz*:
“For God's sake where did I even suggest I know Ola personally?

All I did was disagree with a poster who has a habit of posting their opinions as fact!

I don't agree that Ola's 'popularity' is the main reason she's back. Is that ok? Lilia and Darren were popular pros and they were eventually axed.”

Matthew Cutler and Ian Waite were also binned despite being hugely popular.

Popularity guarantees you nothing on SCD, which is why Ola's return was far from a foregone conclusion.
*Topaz*
23-04-2015
Originally Posted by dancingbearbear:
“Matthew Cutler and Ian Waite were also binned despite being hugely popular.

Popularity guarantees you nothing on SCD, which is why Ola's return was far from a foregone conclusion.”

I agree - and as for the spurious argument that the BBC would have looked 'terrible' rejecting her after her injury - well they've let Robin go after he had to pull out last series due to injury. They didn't have any problem either initially rejecting Aliona after injury before she managed to get back in due to Natalie being injured and she like Ola is a former champ.
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