so no more new threads on the subject are need.

I've seen this suggested a number of times and inthink ice said we need one myself.
If you are a fan of the carters (mainly the over exposed ones) I suggest you avoid this thread.

So rant away:

I genuinely think this is getting ridiculous now. I can understand having a thread about the Carters because evidently some posters on here feel very strongly about them or merging the current threads into one but a specific thread namely just to 'bash' them? Just seems silly to me.

Good luck. But I don't think you'll stop this trend for certain people insisting on having their very own thread.

Thank you for this - I'm a fan of them so won't be posting here, but I hope people will congregate here and it might stop the clutter/bad feeling with the same old threads and counter-arguments over & over again. Unfortunately I don't know if it'll work but fingers crossed.

One has been suggested by numerous posters. The amount of different threads negitive about them is tiring so here is a big one to "bash" them. It's cannot be tied to anything and gives the Ranters and Carter haters a permanent thread which can be used for any of them or their storylines on the future rather then about a specific one.

Thanks vald. Hopefully the thread works


Your quite welcome. Even as a Carter (well Mick and Linda basher) I was also fed up with all the threads so fingers crossed this one is the only one to be on the first page. The rest can die away. Even if posters are about a storyline that will probably be the latest on this thread anyway :P

Aw!

I DO like the Carters so I don't particularly want to bash them it would just be nice if DTC focussed more on other characters and less on the Carters!

I hate the Carters so much. I genuinely thought they were good before but I had enough of them. It's becoming the Shirley show and I wish they would give her less screentime.

The under used ones like babe, lee and Nancy are fine but their General screentime compared to every other storyline is disgusting. Every episode atm is like this:

Mick having a strop that Shirley is his mum and refusing to talk to her and trying to manipulate Tina in giving up and cutting her out their lives. Topping the whole rape.
Shirley struggling between her sons and feeling hurt that kick doesn't accept that she is his mum and being pressured to have to choose one.
A side grievance for Stan from most family.

Then a couple of shorter scenes for other characters in a rotation for that weeks storyline. I wouldn't blame people for complaining to the bbc tbh.

Up until August they were great importance.
After that mock and Linda got too
Much screentime and became overkill, Dean became a rapist and now mocks had a personality transplant which makes him detestable. Shirley and mick storyline is getting too much focus now and I don't give a crap about it. Mock has turned everything:
-stans death
-Linda's rape
-Shirley being his mum and having to raise him as a brother by force
All about him
And doesn't treat his own kids with respect.

While I never liked Linda I could grow to like her if toned down and get rid of the two faced and looking down upon people attitude.

I like the Carters but it does annoy me when other big characters such as Kat get pushed into the background during a big, heavy story just so the Carters can dominate the episodes for no real reason.

When a Carter story hits its most dramatic point or climaxes, then it should be the central story. When another big character's story hits its most dramatic, pivotal point then IT should be the central story. It's not rocket science.

I don't think Linda is overused, although she was last year. The problem with the family is Shirley imo. They should never have made her Mick's mother - it's just a poor man's copy of Kat and Zoe anyway - because now every Carter story just turns back into Mick and Shirley and it's boring. I think Shirley, Buster and Dean are all ruining Mick. Mick and Linda should be the main Carter dynamic, they should be the head of the family but everything even Linda's rape has to revolve around Shirley who I know has her fans but I find her very repetitive and unsympathetic.

I still like the Carter family but something has gone seriously wrong somewhere.

The 9389239832923982389328923982389289328392th thread on the same topic
This is getting so repetitive, this forum used to be fabulous to go on but now it's just the same thing over and over again

I don't bash the Carters. I have opinions on them and I certainly won't be voicing them here. This is a thread created to spout negativity and control and censor posters opinions and I for one won't be a part of it.

Agreed. I find the attempt to censor opinion on an internet forum absurd. Perhaps there should also be a "Carter worship" thread and nobody is allowed to express any positive opinion towards the Carter family anywhere but there. What's the difference?

I also disagree with the implication that any criticism of an aspect of Eastenders is "bashing"

Thanks for this thread Joe.

I used to like the Carters, but ever since October the writers, etc... Have totally destroyed them. I don't know how they'll redeem them.

BIB: I completely disagree. The Mick/Shirley twist isn't a carbon copy, the story has been told completely differently, with that logic - it would imply that every story is a carbon copy of the one before it? Kat/Zoe was over a decade ago. I think it was a neat move, Shirley was very much a mother figure for Mick and it wasn't much of a jump to make her his real mother, it explained a lot about Shirley and I think it works I would like them to reconcile now though.

I agree about Dean but I don't agree about Shirley and Buster, had they supported Mick over Dean, then the opposite would be being said, it is their association with Dean that is the problem not the characters themselves, imo. I like Buster and Shirley more than Mick and Linda. Everyone likes different characters.

I also disagree that the whole rape story has revolved around Shirley, up until Christmas it was, of course, solely about Linda, once it was revealed, other characters became involved. A lot of it has also revolved around Mick, how he has coped and his beef with Dean, and also there has been a lot of focus from Dean's perspective, not just Shirley, so I think it unfair to use Shirley as a scapegoat for all the Carter 'problems'.

I completely agree. This forum isn't what it used to be, it has worsened a lot over the last few months. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but creating a thread solely to 'bash' characters seems ridiculous.

Nobody is attempting to "censor" opinion. Don't be so absurd.

What people are sick of is the same opinions being stated on new threads day in, day out. People who like soap characters are capable of sticking to their appreciation threads on the appreciation subforum, so why can't people who dislike characters stick to one big thread instead of cluttering the place up? There's a very successful "Appreciation of the unappreciation of James Barton" thread that Emmerdale posters are able to use to vent their hate for James Barton, and nobody feels the need to constantly start their own threads on him.

I'd be less irritated if the constant Carter threads were adding new points for discussion but to be quite frank, they don't. It's just the same old points by the same old posters who then proceed to pat each other in the back, congratulating each other for their shared hate of a fictional family.

For what it's worth I'm glad this thread has been started and I hope it succeeds in becoming the main thread for people to vent. I'd rather have this than fifty different threads cluttering the place up because of posters full of their own self-importance.

Exactly. Every thread about the carters is negative recently and only once in a blue moon does a positive arrive. This thread is for those who feel the need to talk/rant about the carters can do so. Those who done have the option not to open the thread.

Should a Carter worship one be wanted - go for it. In not against people loving the carters but all negativity should be placed where Carter lovers don't go. This thread was recommended and it's got to be better hen all these negative Carter threads.

Hmmmmm............ The DS Carter Worship Thread!

Why be negative when you can be positive. Off to the Carter Worship Thread i go...

We're British and love to moan and have a good rant :P

if the carters were not around we would be stuck with stupid max branning and stacey branning appearing in every scene,

Poll added.
Included Roya (as she's been made deans daughter and if that adds to your opinions on her creation) and little Jimmy as he has appeared.

I like how Stacey has been used as support in stories and that her own hasn't begun yet. Max is repetive and boring but I'd still see more of him then have more
Mick Carter shoved down my throat!

Accidents that missed Elaine off >< she's also have a vote from me!