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Old 17-04-2015, 21:42
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So what he doesn't want you to stay!?
It's his place. His beliefs and his choice
Them looking down their noses on him like he's been shouting abuse. He said it calmly and asked them not to.
For a vicar he's a terrible hypocrite. Who's he to judge his views
Oh and let's not forget some people do believe the Bible states against it

Regardless the high and mightyness of them is just awful
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Old 17-04-2015, 22:13
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I suppose next it will be one of them being refused a gay birthday cake.
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Old 17-04-2015, 22:16
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Would you be saying the same if he had not allowed a black couple to stay? Or maybe a special needs couple?

It's about discrimination, I get what you mean about it being his place, but how would you feel if you were turned away from somewhere because of who you are?
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Old 17-04-2015, 22:30
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I like Billy but I think I only like him because he's acting opposite the DREADFUL Anthony Cotton.

Surely as a Vicar, he'd STILL have to wait till he marriage before having sex? Regardless of sexuality?
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Old 17-04-2015, 22:32
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Would you be saying the same if he had not allowed a black couple to stay? Or maybe a special needs couple?

It's about discrimination, I get what you mean about it being his place, but how would you feel if you were turned away from somewhere because of who you are?
I was told to get out of a pub once because I had some Christian newspapers. That's probably okay though. Despite this, I'll defend to the death anyone's right to refuse to do business with anyone else for whatever reason they see fit.
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Old 17-04-2015, 22:40
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I was told to get out of a pub once because I had some Christian newspapers. That's probably okay though. Despite this, I'll defend to the death anyone's right to refuse to do business with anyone else for whatever reason they see fit.
Defend it all you like but you're on your own there. I'm pretty sure it's against the law to discriminate.
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Old 17-04-2015, 22:41
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Would you be saying the same if he had not allowed a black couple to stay? Or maybe a special needs couple?

It's about discrimination, I get what you mean about it being his place, but how would you feel if you were turned away from somewhere because of who you are?
People wouldn't be saying it if it was in regard to any other gay character in my view. Sean brings out the hate in most on here.
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Old 17-04-2015, 22:46
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I thought Sean and the vicar were incredibly rude to the bloke. I know we weren't meant to be but I found myself on his side. He politely told them there had been a problem with their booking and that unfortunately they couldn't stay, nothing wrong with that. It was only when they attacked him that he showed a hint of homophobia.
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Old 17-04-2015, 22:47
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So what he doesn't want you to stay!?
It's his place. His beliefs and his choice
It's not as simple as that. This case obviously passed you by.

Gay couple win Berkshire B&B refusal case
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Old 17-04-2015, 22:51
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I thought Sean and the vicar were incredibly rude to the bloke. I know we weren't meant to be but I found myself on his side. He politely told them there had been a problem with their booking and that unfortunately they couldn't stay, nothing wrong with that. It was only when they attacked him that he showed a hint of homophobia.
Unfortunately the deluded writers who see Sean as some fantastic character probably expect us to root for him. He is a whiny, selfish, childish immature idiot who is grating. He is okay when he has some lines in the pub and is like an extra, but they need to stop fooling themselves he is good in a serious plot. Although I do wonder if this is going anywhere or just an excuse to give him more screen time and to act over the top.
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Old 17-04-2015, 22:56
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I'm not a watcher of Corrie. Just happened to see the vicar tonight. He looks like Sean Connery.
Not that this adds to discussion. I remember something like this in the papers a while ago. Gay couple refused by a hotel. Another case of a soap trying to be topical.
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Old 17-04-2015, 22:58
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Defend it all you like but you're on your own there. I'm pretty sure it's against the law to discriminate.
I'm not on my own at all. If YOU pay for a building either by buying it or by renting it and YOU pay for your stock and YOU pay the bills on it then YOU should be allowed to sell to who you like.

Using the topical example, I'm sure it'd be a different story if a gay couple had refused to do a baptism cake for a Christian (which I'd also defend their right to do).
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Old 17-04-2015, 23:01
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I thought Sean and the vicar were incredibly rude to the bloke. I know we weren't meant to be but I found myself on his side. He politely told them there had been a problem with their booking and that unfortunately they couldn't stay, nothing wrong with that. It was only when they attacked him that he showed a hint of homophobia.
To be fair, this double booking came up after Sean said about pushing the beds together and the llok on his face did make it quite clear that was the issue.

If it had genuinely been a double booking then they were out of order and Sean possibly shouldn't have jumped to conclusions but we the audience could tell it wasn't a double booking. He just wanted rid because he was homophobic.
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Old 17-04-2015, 23:02
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I would never normally condone gay bashing, but I think in the case of Sean.....f#cking bring it on, writers!!!
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Old 17-04-2015, 23:03
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I'm not a watcher of Corrie. Just happened to see the vicar tonight. He looks like Sean Connery.
Not that this adds to discussion. I remember something like this in the papers a while ago. Gay couple refused by a hotel. Another case of a soap trying to be topical.
It was more than 50years ago wasn't it? They've waited a while to be 'topical'. I do agree that is the source of this though.

IIRC, the gay couple won their case. Basically, anybody can decide who they want in their private home, but if you open your home or business premises to the Public, like a B+B then you can not discriminate on the ground of race, colour, religion of sexuality. It is illegal.
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Old 17-04-2015, 23:11
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I'm not on my own at all. If YOU pay for a building either by buying it or by renting it and YOU pay for your stock and YOU pay the bills on it then YOU should be allowed to sell to who you like.

Using the topical example, I'm sure it'd be a different story if a gay couple had refused to do a baptism cake for a Christian (which I'd also defend their right to do).
You are on your own. You said 'I'll defend to the death anyone's right to refuse to do business with anyone else for whatever reason they see fit.' Refusing to do business with someone on the basis of their sexuality is against the law and I can't see many others willing to die for this.
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Old 17-04-2015, 23:17
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You are on your own. You said 'I'll defend to the death anyone's right to refuse to do business with anyone else for whatever reason they see fit.' Refusing to do business with someone on the basis of their sexuality is against the law and I can't see many others willing to die for this.
Well the death bit is clearly exaggerating.

It's the business owner's loss at the end of the day. Money is money and they're turning it away. They won't get the gay person's (or whoever they're discriminating against) money and they won't get their friends/family's business either when they're told about it. It's their loss at the end of the day but it is their business.
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Old 17-04-2015, 23:29
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Well the death bit is clearly exaggerating.

It's the business owner's loss at the end of the day. Money is money and they're turning it away. They won't get the gay person's (or whoever they're discriminating against) money and they won't get their friends/family's business either when they're told about it. It's their loss at the end of the day but it is their business.
Plus any punishment they get at the hands of the criminal justice system but I'm assuming that isn't a problem
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Old 17-04-2015, 23:32
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Plus any punishment they get at the hands of the criminal justice system but I'm assuming that isn't a problem
So honestly, if a gay couple owned a bakery and they were asked to make a baptism cake and refused, would that be okay?
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Old 17-04-2015, 23:39
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So honestly, if a gay couple owned a bakery and they were asked to make a baptism cake and refused, would that be okay?
Refusing to do business with someone on the basis of their sexuality, gender, disability or race is against the law. That is all and what I am talking about. It isn't my opinion or view of things, it is the law.
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Old 17-04-2015, 23:41
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Refusing to do business with someone on the basis of their sexuality, gender, disability or race is against the law. That is all and what I am talking about. It isn't my opinion or view of things, it is the law.
Totally dodged the question and answered a completely different one. Rupert Lowe, is that you?
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Old 17-04-2015, 23:45
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Totally dodged the question and answered a completely different one. Rupert Lowe, is that you?
I'm not a lawyer or law maker but I am aware that discriminating on the grounds mentioned is against the law and you didn't seem to be so I told you.

I have no interest in your pathetic point scoring games, only facts interest me.
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Old 18-04-2015, 00:58
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So honestly, if a gay couple owned a bakery and they were asked to make a baptism cake and refused, would that be okay?
No it wouldn't be okay. That would also be discrimination which is illegal and they could be prosecuted and / or sued for it.
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Old 18-04-2015, 01:10
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As a gay guy I was rolling my eyes at this storyline and how of course Corrie tried to latch on to something current but it's just come off as cliche.

He can't act for peanuts. Sean needs the axe.
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Old 18-04-2015, 01:12
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So honestly, if a gay couple owned a bakery and they were asked to make a baptism cake and refused, would that be okay?
If they refused on the basis of discrimination, then no, it wouldn't be ok. Business owners can't refuse service to customers on the basis of not wanting to associate with someone because they've made a personal judgement against them based on who they are.
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