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I cringe at the Billy/Sean scenes. I normally love gay relationships in soaps but Sean is so cringey. I cannot believe Billy would fall in love for him, he is like a big kid. I was surprised that they hadn't slept together till the other night either, considering how long they have been 'dating'.
Billy is a decent character but he is ruined by Sean. The hat and his writers can try all they like to make Sean likeable, but IMO Cotton just plays himself and I just cannot disconnect the character from the actor, and given that I hate the actor, I can’t abide the character! |
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I cringe at the Billy/Sean scenes. I normally love gay relationships in soaps but Sean is so cringey. I cannot believe Billy would fall in love for him, he is like a big kid. I was surprised that they hadn't slept together till the other night either, considering how long they have been 'dating'.
Billy is a decent character but he is ruined by Sean. |
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Any ideas of billy and Sean are for keeps ?
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Any ideas of billy and Sean are for keeps ?
Will just be a complete joke if he would even consider moving in to that overcrowded dosshouse, in fact Billy even being interested in an idiot like him seems unbelievable, anyway!
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If they are for keeps, then surely they won't take the ridiculous step of having him move into Eileen's poky front room with Sean? As a vicar he must surely live in a house provided by the church, well, up here they do, not sure about England. However, Sean seems incapable of ever moving out of Eileen's, even though he has two jobs and could well afford it, he is such an overgrown baby, can't stand him
Will just be a complete joke if he would even consider moving in to that overcrowded dosshouse, in fact Billy even being interested in an idiot like him seems unbelievable, anyway! |
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Recently, a Christian on the GD forum told a poster that his marriage to his husband is not a "real marriage", because the Bible doesn't support homosexuality. I asked him if he would be against interracial marriage if the Bible said it was wrong and after dodging the question several times, he finally answered and said that he wouldn't. He would ignore the Bible if he wanted to, but he didn't seem to care/understand about his blatant hypocrisy. Some people will look for any reason to be homophobic.
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I absolutely agree with this. Would anybody, straight or gay, come out with "we can push the beds together". It was just a bit unnecessary.
Can't believe how easily people are offended, essentially Sean was turning to his boyfriend and saying "We can push the beds together" and the landlord was eavesdropping on a private conversation. Sean didn't jump up on the bar and declare to whole pub, "Me and my boyfriend are going to push our twin beds together tonight so we can have full on Gay sex!!!" That would have been "crass", "inappropriate" and "unnecessary"! |
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Really? REALLY?
Can't believe how easily people are offended, essentially Sean was turning to his boyfriend and saying "We can push the beds together" and the landlord was eavesdropping on a private conversation. Sean didn't jump up on the bar and declare to whole pub, "Me and my boyfriend are going to push our twin beds together tonight so we can have full on Gay sex!!!" That would have been "crass", "inappropriate" and "unnecessary"! He has a jolly good right to have a say what goes on there! |
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Nah its his property
He has a jolly good right to have a say what goes on there! Not sure why people are evening questioning whether this was homophobic or not. Of course it is, it's a Coronation Street storyline set up to highlight the issue! |
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Wasn't the is Emily a homophobe story done and dusted in a double episode too?
Corrie are either too scared to really tackle homophobia and so fob the issue off with these tiny and insubstantial story lines or they know Sean simply cannot deliver anything that requires gravitas so get round it with these silly diversions. Why do they have to push these agendas? it is a soap, a bit of froth to distract from the real world. |
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Really? REALLY?
Can't believe how easily people are offended, essentially Sean was turning to his boyfriend and saying "We can push the beds together" and the landlord was eavesdropping on a private conversation. Sean didn't jump up on the bar and declare to whole pub, "Me and my boyfriend are going to push our twin beds together tonight so we can have full on Gay sex!!!" That would have been "crass", "inappropriate" and "unnecessary"! ![]() The dialogue in that scene was cringe. Sean is a crap character played by an appalling actor Also the storyline which should be an example of underlying homophobia has been ruined because Sean is so unsympathetic. Terrible writing. The article in the mirror by ian hyland summed Sean up for me.
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As stated before, it's not his private house, it is a PUBLIC business, and he has to abide by the UK laws on discrimination.
Not sure why people are evening questioning whether this was homophobic or not. Of course it is, it's a Coronation Street storyline set up to highlight the issue! What if it was someone with a gang upstairs planning on wrecking havoc in the town.. Technically can't be banned because they're not done it yet Just cus something is technically allowed it doesn't mean it should be allowed to happen in someone's own property Which, also stated, is also his OWN home |
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Who is offended?
![]() The dialogue in that scene was cringe. Sean is a crap character played by an appalling actor Also the storyline which should be an example of underlying homophobia has been ruined because Sean is so unsympathetic. Terrible writing. The article in the mirror by ian hyland summed Sean up for me. ![]() |
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Great post. Don't forget how the Sean shouted at Emily - an old lady - in the Rovers accusing her of homophobia. He always sticks his nose in when it's not wanted. No matter how many times he puts his foot in it he never seems to mature or learn.
![]() For me it's more offensive that Coronation Street think that gay couples actually act in the manner the way Sean in particular did in that scene. No one gay or straight would say in such a childish manner "we'll push the beds together ". They would either argue the toss with the owner or just take the room and push the beds together without saying anything. The writing really is pathetic.
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Great post. Don't forget how the Sean shouted at Emily - an old lady - in the Rovers accusing her of homophobia. He always sticks his nose in when it's not wanted. No matter how many times he puts his foot in it he never seems to mature or learn.
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No one gay or straight would say in such a childish manner "we'll push the beds together ". They would either argue the toss with the owner or just take the room and push the beds together without saying anything.
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He's a badly written and realised character. Apart from the fact he's gay, which is strictly forbidden in the Bible, he's also having pre-marital sex which is also forbidden in any relationship. They could have made this an interesting story, he could have been conflicted between his faith and sexuality, his commandments and his feelings. Instead he's just a gay bloke with a dog collar on. Might as well have made him a postman or a lorry driver, it's irrelevant with how he's being written.
There's absolutely no debate. Disagree and you can't watch it's actually pretty disgusting |
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There ARE passages in the Bible that support the argument against Interracial marriage. http://www.gotquestions.org/interracial-marriage.html so it isn't even a theoretical argument. "Christians" do it all the time, they ignore the "laws" they want to ignore and quote the passages that support their discriminatory thoughts.
The saddest thing about his posts was the fact that he claimed he was gay. |
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There's a wealth of information in the Bible misinterpreted / old testament which no longer applies.
I think the issue of gay sex is pretty clear tho Honestly I can see the agenda behind it no matter what people say. It does have a heck of a lot to do with population reducing. These political agendas are never as sweet as they seem |
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Regarding homosexuality and the Bible, I saw someone quote this during an argument:
Genesis 19, the sin of Sodom is not related to loving, consensual same-sex relationships, but to the threat of gang rape. Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 are not about committed same-sex relationships, but about the improper ordering of gender roles in a patriarchal society (men taking the receptive, sexual role; women taking the penetrative, sexual role). Paul in Romans 1:26-27 is not referring to monogamous, gay relationships, but instead to lustful excess and the breaking of customary gender roles. In 1 Corinthians 6:9 and 1 Timothy 1:10, Paul does not condemn same-sex relationships as an expression of one's fixed and exclusive sexual orientation, but instead condemns the economic exploitation of others. Since I haven't studied the Bible for years, can someone comment on it? Is any of it possibly true? |
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Regarding homosexuality and the Bible, I saw someone quote this during an argument:
Genesis 19, the sin of Sodom is not related to loving, consensual same-sex relationships, but to the threat of gang rape. Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 are not about committed same-sex relationships, but about the improper ordering of gender roles in a patriarchal society (men taking the receptive, sexual role; women taking the penetrative, sexual role). Paul in Romans 1:26-27 is not referring to monogamous, gay relationships, but instead to lustful excess and the breaking of customary gender roles. In 1 Corinthians 6:9 and 1 Timothy 1:10, Paul does not condemn same-sex relationships as an expression of one's fixed and exclusive sexual orientation, but instead condemns the economic exploitation of others. Since I haven't studied the Bible for years, can someone comment on it? Is any of it possibly true? Question everything. I admire you for not merely being a 'sheep of the times' in this! A good resource is: https://carm.org/bible-homosexuality But have a Google around mate |
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Jesus never spoke or condemned same sex relationships.
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Nah its his property
He has a jolly good right to have a say what goes on there! How would you feel if they were denied access somewhere because of who they are? Answer me that one |
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The B+B guy didn't mind waiting until Sean and Billy had eaten their meals before he chucked them out. So their money was good enough for them to eat there just not sleep there.
The man was a nasty bigot, end of. |
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I think most b&b owners would generally not wish to know about what their guests are planning to do behind closed doors. Of course the man didn't want to have a graphic image implanted by Sean of what they would be getting up to in the bedroom and he probably wouldn't want to hear a woman coming along and mentioning that her husband was going to tie her up in the bedroom either. It's a matter of common decency and dignity.
Coronation Street go out of their way nowadays to concoct these farcical and inane scenarios to hammer home their agenda of the day, think the tiny fireman and the 'racism' issue. FFS. They'd be better off dropping the social engineering stuff and getting back to writing about a bunch of individuals who live on the same street, after all that was the formula that made people watch to begin with. Most of the characters now are so spineless, moronic, degenerate, wishing washy and vague that they're simply not likeable no matter how they overdo it trying to convince the viewer otherwise. Take this vicar for example, I mean WTF? If you bumped into him on the street a man of the cloth is one of the very last things you'd take him for. He's more like a bartender or a taxi driver to be fair. And you can imagine easily a gay vicar as a serious person, not one who wants to mess about with a baby voiced, peanut headed, simpering drama queen like Sean. So many aspects of this are a pile of bollocks that it's hard to know where to start, but somehow the folks at Corrie think we accept anything in the name of boredom lol. |
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Will just be a complete joke if he would even consider moving in to that overcrowded dosshouse, in fact Billy even being interested in an idiot like him seems unbelievable, anyway!



