Why are they even bothering with these things, does anyone take them seriously?

Like jjne I too live in a "nice" area. It's 99.9% white / English and you know what? Life is just great.

If you are unfortunate enough to live in one of the many Blair / Labour, multi-cultural / failed social experiment / deliberately gerrymandered areas, blame those who voted Labour in 1997.

Strange
Two days ago you said you lived next door to a family originally from Jamaica, which makes your 99.9% estimate look very suspicious.
Which thread are you telling the truth in?

I can safely say that no posts by me refer to Jamaica.

Apologies, someone with a similar name, similar writing style and almost identical opinions on integration and immigration. My mastike.

I live in a 99.9% White 'nice' area also, and am proud to say it has returned a Labour MP at every GE since 1935.

Exactly, nottinghamc. These opinion polls are demonstrably useless and inaccurate piles of steaming THIS.

I will only begin to start to take them seriously when they actually fully implement all the recommendations of the various polling failure inquiries that are going on right now but that'll take a couple of years.

Surely we must remember that the current enquiry is considering 2 main possibilities.
One is that every single poll in 2015 was correct.

There's a lot of us about.

I agree.

I mean the polls aren't that inaccurate (maybe only a few points outside the usual margin of error) but they are inaccurate enough to be meaningless when elections are decided on 2-3% either way.

Britain Elects ‏@britainelects 14m14 minutes ago

Latest voting intention poll:
CON - 37%
LAB - 31%
LDEM - 10%
UKIP - 9%
GRN - 8%
(via Ipsos-MORI / 18 - 20 Jul)

The area, and it's people, might be nice, but I bet most of them are thick. Yourself excluded of course.

Updated Comres poll

http://comres.co.uk/wp-content/uploa..._July-2015.pdf

Conservative 40%
Labour 28%
Liberal Democrat 7%
UKIP 10%
SNP 5%
Green 5%
Other 4%

Corbyn is really galvanising the Labour vote then.

Quick Cameron! Call a swift General Election! How long would it take to repeal the fixed parliament act?

All joking apart, I bet he's regretting getting the FPA passed now. He could have called a snap election and taken advantage of Labour's complete and utter disarray.

He passed it as part of the coalition agreement so neither party could cut and run before 2015. Now he has a majority there is no reason why he couldn't repeal it, I'm really not sure why he hasn't already.

Calling Jol

I imagine this is the Corbyn effect showing up

The polls were all correct......it was the General Election result that was wrong!

Just seeing that new poll, as if anyone cares, but if Corbyn becomes Labour leader then expect the Tories to be on 50% by Christmas and the New Year, and Labour down on 20%. People are daydreaming about Corbyn's potential in these warm lazy days of summer. Reality would hit come the autumn in a big way. I think sanity will prevail in the end.

why would the labour leader increase the tory vote to 50%?

Moderate Labour voters and swing voters leaving what they see to be a left-wing party that has policies that they don't agree with?

Tories were on 52% in September 2008

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinio...neral_election

Maybe because I've heard 3 people who voted Labour at the last General Election in May who said that if Jeremy Corbyn was Labour leader then they would consider voting Tory at the next election. You don't think Blairite Labour voters would vote for Corbyn Labour if he'd trashed that legacy do you? I cannot imagine a scenario that would make me vote Conservative myself however, and I do have sympathy with a lot of this constant "austerity" message which I am beginning to doubt the authenticity of. How austere are the lives of those in the Tory party or at the top end of things these past few years? Not very I'd guess. The easy targets get picked on. But the perceived idealism that some see with Corbyn just won't cut it in hard reality. The honeymoon with Corbyn if he became leader would be brief and then the reality of him as opposition leader would sink in with a very sobering hard knock on the heads of many.

I do appreciate that Corbyn is not another clone however, and his own man with principles. I hated the homogenous Cameron / Clegg / Miliband 40 something stitch up which offered no inspiration. Is Jeremy Corbyn genuinely inspiring large amounts of people who want him for leader though, or is this just wanting to slap the face of the political class? I'm not sure anyone has a clue!

So much for Tim Farron's comeback, then.