you would have thought with all the scaremongering of economic meltdown and the rest that the leave side would be the quiet shy iones
Opinion Polls Discussion Thread (Part 3)
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Originally Posted by Chirpy_Chicken:
“i can see a lot in the asian community voting for leave so they as you say can bring relatives in easier”
“i can see a lot in the asian community voting for leave so they as you say can bring relatives in easier”
It's not that so much for those who are voting Leave. Many second/third generation members are struggling with either hourly rates being cut or simply being undercut by East Europeans. A lot run small businesses. They are busy people who love being British or part of the British scene and dislike the red tape/ waste of money.
Originally Posted by aurichie:
“You won't be if leave wins, and nor will your family member. You'll never have seen anything like the carnage that would follow a victory for leave on Friday morning. It will be the most extraordinary demonstration of self-harm ever witnessed by a country.”
“You won't be if leave wins, and nor will your family member. You'll never have seen anything like the carnage that would follow a victory for leave on Friday morning. It will be the most extraordinary demonstration of self-harm ever witnessed by a country.”
Crikey O'Reilly. You do come out with some laughable nonsense.
so remainers you looking forward to these new pieces of legislation coming soon
https://twitter.com/LordAshcroft
https://twitter.com/LordAshcroft
Not a major change but bookies odds for leave shortened a fraction from earlier. Probably as a result of latest polls.
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“So, who really thinks Brexit will win? I don't.
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“So, who really thinks Brexit will win? I don't.
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I haven't given up but like you have said previously when it comes down to it I think many people will vote remain due to uncertainty. I seem to be going from " no chance of winning" to"you never know" so much I am confusing myself.
Originally Posted by Inspiration:
“Really? Can you show me some examples of these glassed windows and death threats for putting a sign up?
What difference would that make to answering "yes I'm remain" in a poll?”
“Really? Can you show me some examples of these glassed windows and death threats for putting a sign up?
What difference would that make to answering "yes I'm remain" in a poll?”
I can't speak for that poster but I do think there is a 'If you vote remain you are not patriotic about your country' attitude which is holding some people back from talking about the referendum. I think Exciled Dub summed it up in his post.
I do think Leave is going to win though. By a lot more than the polls suggest.
One things certain the pollsters still haven't a bloody clue.
If remain or leave win by a huge margin what's that going to say about the systems they are still using? remember the GE for months convinced everyone it was going to be a hung parliament
If remain or leave win by a huge margin what's that going to say about the systems they are still using? remember the GE for months convinced everyone it was going to be a hung parliament
Originally Posted by Lily Layfield:
“I can't speak for that poster but I do think there is a 'If you vote remain you are not patriotic about your country' attitude which is holding some people back from talking about the referendum. I think Exciled Dub summed it up in his post.
I do think Leave is going to win though. By a lot more than the polls suggest.”
“I can't speak for that poster but I do think there is a 'If you vote remain you are not patriotic about your country' attitude which is holding some people back from talking about the referendum. I think Exciled Dub summed it up in his post.
I do think Leave is going to win though. By a lot more than the polls suggest.”
Yes but us leavers have been called racist xenophobic and little Englanders
Originally Posted by oathy:
“One things certain the pollsters still haven't a bloody clue.
If remain or leave win by a huge margin what's that going to say about the systems they are still using? remember the GE for months convinced everyone it was going to be a hung parliament”
“One things certain the pollsters still haven't a bloody clue.
If remain or leave win by a huge margin what's that going to say about the systems they are still using? remember the GE for months convinced everyone it was going to be a hung parliament”
From Robert Peston:
Quote:
“We have last poll of campaign - & from @ComResPolls, which did better in election than others, on @NewsAtTen. It's interesting”
“We have last poll of campaign - & from @ComResPolls, which did better in election than others, on @NewsAtTen. It's interesting”
Originally Posted by marke09:
“Yes but us leavers have been called racist xenophobic and little Englanders”
“Yes but us leavers have been called racist xenophobic and little Englanders”
And why do you think that is though? its because a small minority of Brexiters have ended up giving the rest a bad name with some of the stuff that has been said. Warsi herself received racist abuse when she came out for Remain two days ago. It was the same with Yes voters in the Indy Ref. Some of them were a disgrace and as a result all got tarred with the same brush. You know how it is.
Originally Posted by MARTYM8:
“It's interesting? Is that all he gives us?”
“It's interesting? Is that all he gives us?
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'Fraid so, they have their ratings to bump up!
Waiting for some wild eyed Brexiter to come along and say calling someone a traitor is excusable in certain cases
Originally Posted by Idda:
“Waiting for some wild eyed Brexiter to come along and say calling someone a traitor is excusable in certain cases”
“Waiting for some wild eyed Brexiter to come along and say calling someone a traitor is excusable in certain cases”
Yet here you are referring to Brexiters as "wild eyed"
I'll have you know my neighbour is voting out and he's Chinese.
Originally Posted by ecco66:
“From Robert Peston:”
“From Robert Peston:”
I'm pretty sure this will be the poll rumoured on Twitter to show a very significant shift to remain in the final hours of polling.
Anyone who is thinking of having a bet on leave winning will be wise to wait for this to come out, because if it's true you'll be getting much better odds after 10pm tonight.
Originally Posted by ecco66:
“From Robert Peston:”
“From Robert Peston:”
I take it this is the poll with remain 10% ahead.
Originally Posted by ArtfulDodger_:
“I take it this is the poll with remain 10% ahead.”
“I take it this is the poll with remain 10% ahead.”
one of the biggest outliers of the campaign
Originally Posted by ArtfulDodger_:
“I take it this is the poll with remain 10% ahead.”
“I take it this is the poll with remain 10% ahead.”
That would explain why it's interesting. A slim lead for either side wouldn't be, and I can't see them having a big lead for Leave when none of their other polls have.
Originally Posted by Mac2015:
“Yet here you are referring to Brexiters as "wild eyed"
I'll have you know my neighbour ids voting out and he's Chinese.”
“Yet here you are referring to Brexiters as "wild eyed"
I'll have you know my neighbour ids voting out and he's Chinese.”
Not sure why him being Chinese has anything to do with it. I deliberately used 'wild eyed' as a modifier to distinguish insensible Brexiters from sensible Brexiters.
Originally Posted by James2001:
“That would explain why it's interesting. A slim lead for either side wouldn't be, and I can't see them having a big lead for Leave when none of their other polls have.”
“That would explain why it's interesting. A slim lead for either side wouldn't be, and I can't see them having a big lead for Leave when none of their other polls have.”
10% lead for remain and it is definitely game over.
They can start preparing their excuses about a rigged referendum, etc. well ahead of time.
But we still need to make sure all our friends and family go out and vote tomorrow (if they are backing remain of course, for the others I talk about voting in Friday's referendum)
Originally Posted by marke09:
“one of the biggest outliers of the campaign”
“one of the biggest outliers of the campaign”
Maybe the biggest outlier, or maybe the one poll that gets it right- who knows?
If ComRes are going against the trend they're really risking being wrong and losing some of their credibility. If they're right though then all the other pollsters will be nicking their methodology!
Originally Posted by MARTYM8:
“Or more likely they thought - leave lead of 7 on our current methodology.? We can't go with that so let's come up with a new approach that has it much closer so we don't look too different from everyone else.
It's a bit much after weeks of polling to change methodology from likely to all voters for the last poll though.”
“Or more likely they thought - leave lead of 7 on our current methodology.? We can't go with that so let's come up with a new approach that has it much closer so we don't look too different from everyone else.
It's a bit much after weeks of polling to change methodology from likely to all voters for the last poll though.”
Leave is actually on 45% not 43%
http://scotgoespop.blogspot.co.uk/20...poll-just.html
"UPDATE : Just to emphasise the point about there being no underlying swing to Remain in this poll, I've now had a look at the datasets, and it appears that among the whole sample (when undecided 'leaners' are not assigned to either side) the Leave lead has actually increased from 2% to 4%."
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