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Old 29-10-2016, 23:55
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Yes, mostly about airplanes, not the EU.
I wouldn't be so sure :

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.t...?client=safari
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Old 29-10-2016, 23:58
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And if you don't like The Guardian or La Toynbee :

http://www.conservativehome.com/thet...-position.html

The Telegraph are also saying similar things
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Old 30-10-2016, 00:04
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And if you don't like The Guardian or La Toynbee :

http://www.conservativehome.com/thet...-position.html

The Telegraph are also saying similar things
They can say what they like, but if it was true about Brexit then anti-runway man wouldn't be on nearly double that of anyone else in the polls in a Remain area.
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Old 30-10-2016, 00:05
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And if you don't like The Guardian or La Toynbee :

http://www.conservativehome.com/thet...-position.html

The Telegraph are also saying similar things
The Lib Dems may want to make it about the EU, but the voters may think differently.
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Old 30-10-2016, 01:54
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They can say what they like, but if it was true about Brexit then anti-runway man wouldn't be on nearly double that of anyone else in the polls in a Remain area.
His flight path is on a downward trajectory.
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Old 30-10-2016, 01:55
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The Lib Dems may want to make it about the EU, but the voters may think differently.
Well it's up to the opposition parties to convince them
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Old 30-10-2016, 06:54
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In case you hadn't noticed, the referendum was in June. This is a by-election.
However, the LibDems want to make it about Brexit.
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Old 30-10-2016, 07:06
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Yes, mostly about airplanes, not the EU.
Who is the pro-Heathrow expansion candidate then?
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Old 30-10-2016, 07:47
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Yes but no idea who. I don't know why Corbyn is insisting on splitting the Remain vote, makes no sense.
Labour isn't standing afaik.
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Old 30-10-2016, 08:20
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Labour isn't standing afaik.
The shadow cabinet is split over it. Jon Reynolds for example against standing anyone, John Healey insisting they must.

Naturally this disunity will be the fault of plotters and Tories briefing against each other. Dunno why Jerry allows them in his cabinet
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Old 30-10-2016, 08:22
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The shadow cabinet is split over it. Jon Reynolds for example against standing anyone, John Healey insisting they must.

Naturally this disunity will be the fault of plotters and Tories briefing against each other. Dunno why Jerry allows them in his cabinet
Business as usual then in the shadow cabinet.
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Old 30-10-2016, 09:01
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In case you hadn't noticed, the referendum was in June. This is a by-election.
Do you know there are some politicians in Scotland who still go on about the topic of a referendum they lost 2 years ago??
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Old 30-10-2016, 09:05
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The Lib Dems may want to make it about the EU, but the voters may think differently.
We are leaving the EU but the third runway at Heathrow may not happen. Given the noise and impact on their sleep I expect the latter may play bigger in most people's votes.

Richmond park is one of the richest constituencies in England - most residents won't be affected much either way by Brexit.
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Old 30-10-2016, 09:07
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The shadow cabinet is split over it. Jon Reynolds for example against standing anyone, John Healey insisting they must.

Naturally this disunity will be the fault of plotters and Tories briefing against each other. Dunno why Jerry allows them in his cabinet
Pathetic if they don't stand - it looks opportunist.

If they don't Are they backing Zac or the Lib Dems - politically Zac winning would suit them far more.
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Old 30-10-2016, 09:12
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Do you know there are some politicians in Scotland who still go on about the topic of a referendum they lost 2 years ago??
You mean Ruth Davidson and Kezia Dugdale?

The pro independence politicians have moved on and are thinking about the next one.
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Old 30-10-2016, 09:15
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You mean Ruth Davidson and Kezia Dugdale?

The pro independence politicians have moved on and are thinking about the next one.
No, they are quite happy to forget about re-running the things again. It's your best chums the SNP and pretend chums the greens who won't stop going on about it
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Old 30-10-2016, 10:29
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No it's London-based commentators, media darlings & pro-union posters on various fora that cannot stop talking about it.
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Old 30-10-2016, 10:39
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We are leaving the EU but the third runway at Heathrow may not happen. Given the noise and impact on their sleep I expect the latter may play bigger in most people's votes.

Richmond park is one of the richest constituencies in England - most residents won't be affected much either way by Brexit.
Just because people are well off or even rich, it doesn't follow that they do not have strong views about Brexit, on principle.
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Old 01-11-2016, 10:11
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Guardian/ICM (polling carried out 28th-30th Oct, 2040 adults):

Conservatives: 43% (nc)
Labour: 27% (+1)
Ukip: 12% (+1)
Lib Dems: 8% (nc)
Greens: 5% (-1)

Giving the Tories a 16 point lead.

So with things very quiet on the Corbyn Rebels front, Labour still cannot make any sort of advance.
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Old 01-11-2016, 10:27
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Guardian/ICM (polling carried out 28th-30th Oct, 2040 adults):

Conservatives: 43% (nc)
Labour: 27% (+1)
Ukip: 12% (+1)
Lib Dems: 8% (nc)
Greens: 5% (-1)

Giving the Tories a 16 point lead.

So with things very quiet on the Corbyn Rebels front, Labour still cannot make any sort of advance.

Thanks. The Conservative lead steady over time.
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Old 01-11-2016, 10:47
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Thanks. The Conservative lead steady over time.
Noooo, it must be another outlier
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Old 01-11-2016, 10:52
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Guardian/ICM (polling carried out 28th-30th Oct, 2040 adults):

Conservatives: 43% (nc)
Labour: 27% (+1)
Ukip: 12% (+1)
Lib Dems: 8% (nc)
Greens: 5% (-1)

Giving the Tories a 16 point lead.

So with things very quiet on the Corbyn Rebels front, Labour still cannot make any sort of advance.
There hasnt' really been a lot of domestic politics going on the last month apart from isolated by-elections. I wouldn't expect any real movement in the polls.

Interesting to see UKIP still at the same level as the 2015 election. I really thought they would have dropped off further given what has happened to them recently.
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Old 01-11-2016, 11:18
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There hasnt' really been a lot of domestic politics going on the last month apart from isolated by-elections. I wouldn't expect any real movement in the polls.

Interesting to see UKIP still at the same level as the 2015 election. I really thought they would have dropped off further given what has happened to them recently.
There has been lots going on. Brexit.Carney. Orgreave.New benefit limits. To name but a few.

UKIP is a settled force (despite leadership issues)

May is trusted and popular. Corbyn the avowed socialist isn't.
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Old 01-11-2016, 12:20
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Guardian/ICM (polling carried out 28th-30th Oct, 2040 adults):

Conservatives: 43% (nc)
Labour: 27% (+1)
Ukip: 12% (+1)
Lib Dems: 8% (nc)
Greens: 5% (-1)

Giving the Tories a 16 point lead.

So with things very quiet on the Corbyn Rebels front, Labour still cannot make any sort of advance.
ICM polls always give the Tories bigger leads than other polling companies.

I don't see how Labour under Corbyn can catch up, given the media portrays him as an terrorist/ISIS supporter who hates Britain. How could any politician make headway in the polls with those sort of lies to fight against?
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Old 01-11-2016, 13:18
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ICM polls always give the Tories bigger leads than other polling companies.

I don't see how Labour under Corbyn can catch up, given the media portrays him as an terrorist/ISIS supporter who hates Britain. How could any politician make headway in the polls with those sort of lies to fight against?
well in that case, given the pollsters' previous habit of overstating Labour support surely that makes ICM polls like this one nearer to what's really happening?
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