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Opinion Polls Discussion Thread (Part 3)
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Living4Love
25-04-2015
Originally Posted by steveh31:
“Meanwhile, polling of six marginal seats by former Tory treasurer Lord Ashcroft suggests the Conservatives are on track to seize back the Kent constituency of Rochester & Strood, which they lost to UKIP following the defection of MP Mark Reckless last year.”

Ha! fantastic. One Tory seat I will be happy to see them win. Reckless really was reckless
oathy
25-04-2015
http://news.sky.com/story/1472232/to...nt-in-new-poll

Desperate or just incredibly lazy journalism ?
TelevisionUser
25-04-2015
Originally Posted by Boyard:
“Christ, I hope people aren't so stupid that they'd just forget the past 5 years and switch their votes because Kate's popped out a sprog! Seems a dubious theory to me, especially when so little has managed to even shift the polls for such a long time.”

None of the legitimate polling organisations is mentioning this as a factor because it basically isn't one and it's going to have zero effect.

Originally Posted by Hildaonpluto:
“I think Labour have some media ownership plurality legislation that would mean the Murdoch empire would be reduced in size? This is what I suspect he fears.”

That's precisely why The Sun has been out to get Miliband with character assassination. It's crude and made him look like a plucky underdog and the strategy should have been more nuanced.

One of Murdoch's other goals is to gain a majority stakeholding in Sky TV (currently at 39%) and preferably control of 100% of all shares and Murdoch knows that he's got zero chance of that if Miliband becomes PM.
ItJustMyOpinion
25-04-2015
What Lord Ashcroft seems to have found is that the Conservatives will not lose as many seats based on marginal constituency polling as the national polls imply. They will however not take as many Lib Dem seats as they hope to and neither will Labour. The Lib Dem seats are holding up better than expected.
oathy
25-04-2015
NEW Survation/MoS (chg vs 21/3): CON 33 (+3) LAB 30 (-4) UKIP 18 (+1) LD 9 (-1) SNP 5 (+1) GRE 4 (+1) OTH 1 (-1)
Hildaonpluto
25-04-2015
Originally Posted by TelevisionUser:
“None of the legitimate polling organisations is mentioning this as a factor because it basically isn't one and it's going to have zero effect.



That's precisely why The Sun has been out to get Miliband with character assassination. It's crude and made him look like a plucky underdog and the strategy should have been more nuanced.

One of Murdoch's other goals is to gain a majority stakeholding in Sky TV (currently at 39%) and preferably control of 100% of all shares and Murdoch knows that he's got zero chance of that if Miliband becomes PM.”

I wish this was highlighted by more people as it's really a semi affront to a healthy democracy.
MattN
25-04-2015
Latest Survation poll (24 - 25 Apr):
CON - 33% (-)
LAB - 30% (+1)
UKIP - 18% (-)
LDEM - 9% (-1)
GRN - 4% (-)
FusionFury
25-04-2015
Originally Posted by oathy:
“http://news.sky.com/story/1472232/to...nt-in-new-poll

Desperate or just incredibly lazy journalism ?”

This is getting ridiculous..
pixel_pixel
25-04-2015
I think its fair to say these polls will stay like this right up until polling day.

Unless something major occurs that is.

I'm more excited as to the exit poll!
carnoch04
25-04-2015
No change then.
Jason C
25-04-2015
Originally Posted by carnoch04:
“Which one has the correct change?”

The bottom figures show the changes from the last Survation poll conducted two days ago, and the top figures show the changes from the last Survation poll for the Mail on Sunday conducted five weeks ago which are frankly misleading.
carnoch04
25-04-2015
Originally Posted by Jason C:
“The bottom figures show the changes from the last Survation poll, and the top figures show the changes from the last Survation poll for the Mail on Sunday, which are frankly misleading.”

Thanks. I realised that and changed my post!
MC_Satan
25-04-2015
I am increasingly thinking that yougov are the most accurate. The others are all heavily influenced paid by parties who have paid for the poll.
jjne
25-04-2015
Originally Posted by Jason C:
“The bottom figures show the changes from the last Survation poll conducted two days ago, and the top figures show the changes from the last Survation poll for the Mail on Sunday conducted five weeks ago which are frankly misleading.”

Depends on whether they're using the same methodology in both sets of polls as to which is the misleading one.

It's all MoE though so nothing to get too worried about.
PrestonAl
25-04-2015
Originally Posted by MC_Satan:
“I am increasingly thinking that yougov are the most accurate. The others are all heavily influenced paid by parties who have paid for the poll.”

Averaging the polls gives a good indication, but Yougov and ICM are two good polling firms.

You have to remember that most firms raw data is similar, it is the weighting afterwards that counts.
Amanda_Raymond
26-04-2015
How many exit polls are there?
jjne
26-04-2015
Originally Posted by Amanda_Raymond:
“How many exit polls are there?”

There was only one last time, due to cost.

Whether this changes this time is open to debate... you can't really run an exit poll online (well you can but its accuracy would be potentially questionable).

ITV are even less committed to their PSB requirements in 2015 than they were in 2010, so I can't see them running their own this time... maybe Sky will, I'm not sure.
carnoch04
26-04-2015
Just one exit poll, jointly commissioned by BBC/ITV/Sky I believe.
Fudd
26-04-2015
Originally Posted by oathy:
“http://news.sky.com/story/1472232/to...nt-in-new-poll

Desperate or just incredibly lazy journalism ?”

Neither - unless I'm missing something.
thms
26-04-2015
http://scotgoespop.blogspot.co.uk/20...es-snp-to.html

"Scottish voting intentions for the May 2015 UK general election (Panelbase) :

SNP 48% (+3)
Labour 27% (-2)
Conservatives 16% (+2)
Liberal Democrats 4% (n/c)
UKIP 3% (-1)
Greens 2% (n/c)"
Jilly
26-04-2015
@UKELECTIONS2015: Yougov (UK)

Which of the party leaders do you think is the most
capable leader?

Cameron 33%
Sturgeon 17%
Miliband 15%
Farage 7%
Clegg 4%
thorr
26-04-2015
Originally Posted by carnoch04:
“Just one exit poll, jointly commissioned by BBC/ITV/Sky I believe.”

I find it amusing that they commission an exit poll, considering it is announced on election night at 10pm, and the result is usually known by the following morning. I mean, why bother....
smudges dad
26-04-2015
Originally Posted by thorr:
“I find it amusing that they commission an exit poll, considering it is announced on election night at 10pm, and the result is usually known by the following morning. I mean, why bother....”

It gives the pundits something to talk about for3 hours until the results start flooding in
Jilly
26-04-2015
Originally Posted by smudges dad:
“It gives the pundits something to talk about for3 hours until the results start flooding in”

I think your right, did they get it drastically wrong in 1992.
MattXfactor
26-04-2015
Originally Posted by Jilly:
“I think your right, did they get it drastically wrong in 1992.”

Yes miles out but usually its extremely accurate
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