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| He's reached his shelf life. |
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42 | 42.00% |
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35 | 35.00% |
| He's doing his job, I suppose. |
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18 | 18.00% |
| I don't care. |
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5 | 5.00% |
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What are your views on DTC?
On other threads I have seen that people have strong views on the EP, so I thought it would be good to see where everyone stands right now.
What are you current views on Dominic Treadwell-Collins? Is he a good producer? Do you think he has more to give for EastEnders? |
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I think he was great, but has run out of ideas and now the show is suffering badly.
As a result, EastEnders came out with a pathetic 5.68 million viewers last night. Almost 1 million down Year On Year. |
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I think he was great, but has run out of ideas and now the show is suffering badly.
As a result, EastEnders came out with a pathetic 5.68 million viewers last night. Almost 1 million down Year On Year. |
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He clearly loves the show but he is been blinded by his obsession with the Carter's which is now turning the show from an ensemble to the Carter Show.
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Great to start with but he's awful now. It's all mock, Shirley and Linda and every other characters stories stop and start on the block rotation. Also charcaters he isn't keen on like Whitney and Lola never even appear except once in a blue moon, he lets all the big characters go on break at the same tome, develops characrers too slow so we don't care when they have to carry the show, the dip in and not appear for ages introductions. No interviews and announces things way too early. He needs to go now! And take mock bloody Carter with him.
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His Carter fetish has ruined what could have been an impressive run.
BBC need to beg Lorraine Newman to return and offer her whatever she wants to save this mess. |
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Some of the material hasn't been quite there but I do think the show is being made out to be in worse shape than it actually is. The ratings have gone down one night, one sunny Friday night at that - if they continue to drop then fine, that's a problem but I think one night of lower ratings is a bit quick to judge.
I don't think DTC is a terrible producer, there is room for some improvement in certain areas but swings and roundabouts, really. All that would happen is that someone new would come in, their praises would be sung for a good few months, they would be built up and then torn down - just like what is happening with DTC and co now. Overall, bar a few things, the show is in better shape than it was during LN's tenure, imo. And to be fair, it is just a soap, there to provide entertainment - sometimes it can be taken a little too seriously, imo. |
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as others have said, TOO MUCH CARTERS.
he is also overrated. though he has done some good things, hes done just as many bad. |
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There's things I still want from him.
Focus on other characters other than the Mitchell, Carters and Beales now. Stop overcomplicating s/ls. if you're going to deal with rape, then do it. Don't chuck in a 'who's the daddy', 'I'm not your mummy' and a secret child of the rapist. Keep characters consistent. Personality changes just to create drama are really annoying. I'd give him 6/10. |
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He's reached his shelf life with this ridiculous Roxy/Charlie storyline.
I can't say I've ever hugely rated him if I'm honest. He improved the show from Kirkwood and Newman, but that was never going to be hard. Every one of his promises (no one family will dominate the show, we won't go over our greatest hits, we've learnt from the 25th anniversary and won't have a crap aftermath) have been broken and his big storylines have failed to satisy me in any way at all. He's done an OK job but I do think he's reached his peak. I'm happy for him to prove me wrong in the next few months though. |
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I want to love him but after the Roxy/Charlie affair and Carter overload I am not so sure now.
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He's better than Kirkwood and Newman, but that really isn't saying much. I'll admit he clearly worked his arse off to drag the show out of the pathetic mess it became in 2011-13, but EastEnders is now being run by the Carters, in the same way the Brannings strangled the life out of it just a few years ago. It's such a shame that a family which started off as a breath of fresh air have become so tedious and stale in the space of a year. Their endless 'secrets' are extremely boring, and this rape story has totally ruined them.
EastEnders felt like it was on the way to recovery in 2014, but it's fallen off a cliff again recently. There hasn't been one good story since the live week. And to be honest, I'm so sick of the Carters that I haven't even watched in two weeks. And next week is all about them again so I won't be tuning in then either. |
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He's better than Kirkwood and Newman, but that really isn't saying much. I'll admit he clearly worked his arse off to drag the show out of the pathetic mess it became in 2011-13, but EastEnders is now being run by the Carters, in the same way the Brannings strangled the life out of it just a few years ago. It's such a shame that a family which started off as a breath of fresh air have become so tedious and stale in the space of a year. Their endless 'secrets' are extremely boring, and this rape story has totally ruined them.
EastEnders felt like it was on the way to recovery in 2014, but it's fallen off a cliff again recently. There hasn't been one good story since the live week. And to be honest, I'm so sick of the Carters that I haven't even watched in two weeks. And next week is all about them again so I won't be tuning in then either. |
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He's better than Kirkwood and Newman, but that really isn't saying much. I'll admit he clearly worked his arse off to drag the show out of the pathetic mess it became in 2011-13, but EastEnders is now being run by the Carters, in the same way the Brannings strangled the life out of it just a few years ago. It's such a shame that a family which started off as a breath of fresh air have become so tedious and stale in the space of a year. Their endless 'secrets' are extremely boring, and this rape story has totally ruined them.
EastEnders felt like it was on the way to recovery in 2014, but it's fallen off a cliff again recently. There hasn't been one good story since the live week. And to be honest, I'm so sick of the Carters that I haven't even watched in two weeks. And next week is all about them again so I won't be tuning in then either. |
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He been a flop imo. He hasn't improve ratings and now lower than it was last year or the year before. He overrated as well, I hate how people say he best eastenders producer in years when really he isn't. I hope critics criticize the show so it needs improving and people are too scared to slate him or tell him what his doing wrong. He also said eastenders is going to be best show or drama on television and won't cover the greatest hit what a hypocrite.
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What's DTC?
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All I can say is that I used to be an avid viewer but since Christmas 2013 I watch it very infrequently, I just keep my eyes on the spoilers and this forum.
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I think he has lots planned and we shouldn't write him off but I like the Carters, the only two things I have not liked that DTC has done is Dean raping Linda and the slow burning storys and new characters, but when I think what EE was like before he took over then he has done very well.
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Some of the material hasn't been quite there but I do think the show is being made out to be in worse shape than it actually is. The ratings have gone down one night, one sunny Friday night at that - if they continue to drop then fine, that's a problem but I think one night of lower ratings is a bit quick to judge.
I don't think DTC is a terrible producer, there is room for some improvement in certain areas but swings and roundabouts, really. All that would happen is that someone new would come in, their praises would be sung for a good few months, they would be built up and then torn down - just like what is happening with DTC and co now. Overall, bar a few things, the show is in better shape than it was during LN's tenure, imo. And to be fair, it is just a soap, there to provide entertainment - sometimes it can be taken a little too seriously, imo. |
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I liked him at the beginning but the Carter dominance is making me want to stop watching.
The long, drawn out storylines that stop and start without warning are a huge problem too. Also, this ridiculous Roxy/Charlie storyline is one of the worst decisions he's made. Certain characters are the only reason I keep on watching but I only tune in for episodes I like the sound of. |
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He was great to start with, but has steadily declined since early 2014. Now it's repetitious and dull (Ronnie, Roxy and another of Ronnie's husbands and too much of the Carters.)
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I know that his Carter fixation is annoying and he is taking Charlie in a completely wrong direction, but EE is still miles and miles ahead of the rot that was 2011-13. I'd like to think this is only a temporary dip in form and things will really heat up sooner than later. Those "quieter" episodes which focused on less used characters is what he needs to avoid in the future. That is why using the entire cast, letting them get their fair share of screen time (well at least the good ones like Kush) so that fans have a reason to care about them. The last couple of weeks have been fine, apart from the way they shoved Kat's suicide storyline below the Stan stuff.
I feel that this recent backlash is unwarranted. He's not on the same level as Yorke or Santer who are were just giants in the history of EE. However, he is still far more credible than Kirkwood and Newman. I'm still tuning in to EE each week and have not once reached for my remote. There were periods between late 2010 and 2013 that I just didn't watch. Treadwell-Collins IMO is potentially comparable to Jane Harris as long as he manages to keep going. She was a very notable EP around 1996/1997, whose tenure is sometimes forgotten. She oversaw Phil's alcoholism storyline, as well as Cindy's plot to get Ian killed (that pulled in massive ratings). I think she was behind the very underrated Joe Wicks schizophrenia storyline too. Her main misstep was the Ireland episodes involving the Fowlers. EE won a BAFTA during her time too. Hopefully if DTC manages to oversee a few corkers (the Roya storyline could be excellent, as well as whatever is planned for Vincent) and integrates the Carters more into the Square (i.e. with other characters) he'll be remembered positively. |
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I really rated him when he first started but he's making a shed load of mistakes at the minute that's making the show steadily less enjoyable. I still think he's an excellent producer because of the sheer improvement the show is on the previous era, but I'm not really enjoying it right now.
I loved the Carters at first but I agree it's overkill. There's far too much going on and far too much misery. The Dean/Linda storyline has been brilliant on the whole, but she didn't need to get pregnant. Mick didn't need to turn out to be Shirley's son, Stan's death didn't need to revolve around their fighting. It's too much drama for one family, it's unnecessary. They're good but not that good. Jim's death shouldn't have been interlinked with Stan's, and it shouldn't have been the week after Kat tries to kill herself. Speaking of which, seemed to be over within a couple of episodes? It's too much misery and it's too heavy, but in Kat's case there was zero follow through which annoyed me. Also I love a slow burner but DTC is taking it too far. Ronnie should have came out of her coma a long time ago. Dot should not still be in prison, advancements need to be made to that storyline. Where's Vincent, the supposedly excellent new character? Where's Kathy, what was the point in bringing her back? Are the Cokers ever going to have their secrets explained? Aleks was a great character and Im annoyed by his exit because he never reached his potential, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was due to the actor being bored waiting around. It's very slow at the minute, and very little light relief. |
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I think he was great, but has run out of ideas and now the show is suffering badly.
As a result, EastEnders came out with a pathetic 5.68 million viewers last night. Almost 1 million down Year On Year. |
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