Originally Posted by Dalekbuster523:
“Because she's annoying.”
“Because she's annoying.”
Maybe to you. Not to plenty of others.
The New Series Needs Something
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Originally Posted by iaindb:
“Okay, here's something.
Last Christmas ended with the Doctor and Clara running off together like a couple of excited school-kids. How about series 9 carries on where this left off? The Doctor and Clara are travelling through time and space having fun and adventures, when at some point, after another successful adventure, they snog
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“Okay, here's something.
Last Christmas ended with the Doctor and Clara running off together like a couple of excited school-kids. How about series 9 carries on where this left off? The Doctor and Clara are travelling through time and space having fun and adventures, when at some point, after another successful adventure, they snog
”
Oh god please no,old man young girl getting it on I don't need to see that........even if it gives me hope
Originally Posted by donovan5:
“Oh god please no,old man young girl getting it on I don't need to see that........even if it gives me hope”
“Oh god please no,old man young girl getting it on I don't need to see that........even if it gives me hope
”
Or maybe, as a softer alternative, Clara kisses the Doctor and the Doctor sends her away either permanently because he worries she's becoming too emotionally involved, or temporary to consider her feelings and whether she could carry on travelling with the Doctor as just friends.
She is, after all, potentially emotional unstable after losing Danny. Let's not forget her behaviour on the volcano in Dark Water.
Then Capaldi gets to play comedy with the reaction to the kiss and then emotional when he tells Clara he's taking her home.
Originally Posted by donovan5:
“I loved River but surely her story is done now.
When we met her with 10 we knew there was a story with a future Doctor to be played out and that we were seeing the end.
Unless it was some sort of "rescue" from the library type of angle then it just doesn't make any sense for her to have any dealings with 12”
“I loved River but surely her story is done now.
When we met her with 10 we knew there was a story with a future Doctor to be played out and that we were seeing the end.
Unless it was some sort of "rescue" from the library type of angle then it just doesn't make any sense for her to have any dealings with 12”
The out of order nature of her life means she could easily have multiple adventures with 12. From her point of view she could have been having adventures with 12 inbetween adventures with 11, and even the odd adventure with 10 later in his life than after the first time she'd met him. She did often say things like 'judging by your face' after all.
When she met him as 10, the very end of the story for her was described, and sounded a wonderfully sad emotional end to her time. Until we see the derillium scene where the real river has her final meeting with the doctor (as opposed to that cop out sort of goodbye with the data ghost river in name of the doctor which I don't count at all) then for me, her story will never truly be finished. Also before anyone says it, I don't count the minisode dvd extra thing has having seen it either, as that was only an implication that they might be going and if even if she did once go there with 11 there is nothing to say that it was the one and only time she went there.
Originally Posted by sandydune:
“Why so, am sure Steven's wife had some input towards River's character, makes sense.
”
“Why so, am sure Steven's wife had some input towards River's character, makes sense.
”
I always wonder what Steven's home life is like when I see all these women characters he created slapping the men about like they are justified in doing so, and it's a normal part of a relationship.
It happened in Sherlock, also.
Originally Posted by doctor blue box:
“
When she met him as 10, the very end of the story for her was described, and sounded a wonderfully sad emotional end to her time. Until we see the derillium scene where the real river has her final meeting with the doctor (as opposed to that cop out sort of goodbye with the data ghost river in name of the doctor which I don't count at all) then for me, her story will never truly be finished. Also before anyone says it, I don't count the minisode dvd extra thing has having seen it either, as that was only an implication that they might be going and if even if she did once go there with 11 there is nothing to say that it was the one and only time she went there.”
“
When she met him as 10, the very end of the story for her was described, and sounded a wonderfully sad emotional end to her time. Until we see the derillium scene where the real river has her final meeting with the doctor (as opposed to that cop out sort of goodbye with the data ghost river in name of the doctor which I don't count at all) then for me, her story will never truly be finished. Also before anyone says it, I don't count the minisode dvd extra thing has having seen it either, as that was only an implication that they might be going and if even if she did once go there with 11 there is nothing to say that it was the one and only time she went there.”
I don't count the minisode either. Everyone knows it was Ten who took her to Darillium for their last meeting before the library. I refuse to visualise it any other way.
Originally Posted by doctor blue box:
“But that's the point, she hasn't seen him since he regenerated so it would be fun to see what she makes of his new appearance/attitude.
I like it when characters meet different incarnations. When people say 'that character was only that certain doctor only, or anything of that nature, it's as though they are forgetting for a moment that the doctor is one character and not 12 different ones. Having odd characters from the past turn up from time to time and them reminiscing only reinforces that. Not to mention that River actually started in 10's era, or the fact that jack was successfully a big part of both 9 and 10's era and Sarah Jane Smith was reoccuring in 10's era years after being a part of both 3 and 4's eras. Blurring the lines between the incarnations by having someone who knew him previously come along and still recognise that he is still the same man despite the surface changes serves to reinforce and strengthen the central character of the doctor.
I'd happily see river back any time.”
“But that's the point, she hasn't seen him since he regenerated so it would be fun to see what she makes of his new appearance/attitude.
I like it when characters meet different incarnations. When people say 'that character was only that certain doctor only, or anything of that nature, it's as though they are forgetting for a moment that the doctor is one character and not 12 different ones. Having odd characters from the past turn up from time to time and them reminiscing only reinforces that. Not to mention that River actually started in 10's era, or the fact that jack was successfully a big part of both 9 and 10's era and Sarah Jane Smith was reoccuring in 10's era years after being a part of both 3 and 4's eras. Blurring the lines between the incarnations by having someone who knew him previously come along and still recognise that he is still the same man despite the surface changes serves to reinforce and strengthen the central character of the doctor.
I'd happily see river back any time.”
Completely agree with this.
Originally Posted by Lewis Christian:
“Maybe to you. Not to plenty of others.”
“Maybe to you. Not to plenty of others.”
Thought you found her annoying also?
Originally Posted by Dalekbuster523:
“Thought you found her annoying also?”
“Thought you found her annoying also?”
Okay.
Maybe to me and you and others. But not to plenty of others. Every character has their share of fans and dislikers.
Originally Posted by CD93:
“Thanks for quoting that post - or we may never have seen that DB gem.”
“Thanks for quoting that post - or we may never have seen that DB gem.”
I had only meant to post part of the quote in reply but unfortunately
Originally Posted by Lewis Christian:
“Okay.
Maybe to me and you and others. But not to plenty of others. Every character has their share of fans and dislikers.”
“Okay.
Maybe to me and you and others. But not to plenty of others. Every character has their share of fans and dislikers.”
True. But River Song seems to have more detractors than those who like her.
Originally Posted by Sara_Peplow:
“Wonder what he would say to her if they met ?.”
“Wonder what he would say to her if they met ?.”
Probably nothing.
The Doctor could be running past River as Benny Hill music plays in the background with The Daleks running behind The Doctor. River could then run after The Daleks until she catches up with the Doctor and then say "Took a while to catch up but I know that run, had to be you Doctor"
Originally Posted by Dalekbuster523:
“True. But River Song seems to have more detractors than those who like her.”
“True. But River Song seems to have more detractors than those who like her.”
"Seems"
She probably doesn't though.
I've read the OP a few times and I'm still none the wiser. What are you asking for? Is this thread real? The new series needs something...but what? Am I just being backward?
Originally Posted by LightMeUp:
“I've read the OP a few times and I'm still none the wiser. What are you asking for? Is this thread real? The new series needs something...but what? Am I just being backward?”
“I've read the OP a few times and I'm still none the wiser. What are you asking for? Is this thread real? The new series needs something...but what? Am I just being backward?”
With bizarre threads like these popping, all I know for sure is that the new series needs... to start soon.
Originally Posted by LightMeUp:
“I've read the OP a few times and I'm still none the wiser. What are you asking for? Is this thread real? The new series needs something...but what? Am I just being backward?”
“I've read the OP a few times and I'm still none the wiser. What are you asking for? Is this thread real? The new series needs something...but what? Am I just being backward?”
Sandydune is a Zen Master. Think of her posts as similar to Koans, contemplation of which will eventually lead to enlightenment.
Either that or she's on something again.
Originally Posted by Granny McSmith:
“Sandydune is a Zen Master. Think of her posts as similar to Koans, contemplation of which will eventually lead to enlightenment.
Either that or she's on something again.”
“Sandydune is a Zen Master. Think of her posts as similar to Koans, contemplation of which will eventually lead to enlightenment.
Either that or she's on something again.
”
Kudos to Sandydune. I think she's managed, perhaps unintentionally, to out-troll Dalekbuster!
Originally Posted by GDK:
“Kudos to Sandydune. I think she's managed to out-troll Dalekbuster! ”
“Kudos to Sandydune. I think she's managed to out-troll Dalekbuster!
”
You can't out-troll a non-troll unless you non-troll a out-troll.
Originally Posted by Dalekbuster523:
“You can't out-troll a non-troll unless you non-troll a out-troll.”
“You can't out-troll a non-troll unless you non-troll a out-troll.”
Cool your boots Edward Nigma.
Originally Posted by Dalekbuster523:
“You can't out-troll a non-troll unless you non-troll a out-troll.”
“You can't out-troll a non-troll unless you non-troll a out-troll.”
Gotcha!
Originally Posted by sandydune:
“The new series needs to come back with a something? The Doctor needs to have some kind of authority, South park style The Doctor has been working up to something, meeting River again? meeting The Master? Meeting another Doctor? Challenge? Doctor needs a challenge Sorry, just something out of nothing.”
“The new series needs to come back with a something? The Doctor needs to have some kind of authority, South park style
The Doctor has been working up to something, meeting River again? meeting The Master? Meeting another Doctor? Challenge? Doctor needs a challenge Sorry, just something out of nothing.”
BIB: Yes, he does need a challenge. But he's become so powerful there's not much that can challenge him now.
Matt Smith had not one but two -- yes, count 'em -- two stories where the universe had already been destroyed and the Doctor never existed, and his companion saved them by doing magical timey-wimey stuff.
If not even the destruction of the universe can challenge the Doctor any more, it's hard to imagine what can. That's why Capaldi's first season focussed so much on "Am I a good man?" Moral challenges are the only ones left for him now.
Some of us did some brainstorming about this on another forum. And we all came to the conclusion is that the show needs a season-long story arc about the Doctor being trapped in a totally alien universe. He could be sent there as part of a trap set by Missy or Davros or whoever the season's big bad is.
The Doctor's knowledge wouldn't help him there, and the TARDIS might not even work properly (cf. Rise of the Cybermen). He'd have trouble just finding out where he is and what's happening, never mind finding a way to return in time to stop Missy/Davros/whoever's evil plan in the season finale.
Originally Posted by adams66:
“The new series needs more ghosts...”
“The new series needs more ghosts...”
If you want ghosts, maybe try watching Ghoatbusters instead (no offence). Doctor Who has done 'ghost stories' before but they're always aliens or time travellers, not ghosts.
Originally Posted by Dalekbuster523:
“If you want ghosts, maybe try watching Ghoatbusters instead (no offence). Doctor Who has done 'ghost stories' before but they're always aliens or time travellers, not ghosts.”
“If you want ghosts, maybe try watching Ghoatbusters instead (no offence). Doctor Who has done 'ghost stories' before but they're always aliens or time travellers, not ghosts.”
Goatbusters?
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