Originally Posted by inspector drake:
“What happened there then?”
“What happened there then?”
I'm not aware that Pertwee and Baker spoke to each other. I can imagine that neither of them would have been friends.
Was Elizabeth Sladen axed from Dr Who in 1976
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I'm not aware that Pertwee and Baker spoke to each other. I can imagine that neither of them would have been friends.
Originally Posted by jxbrenna:
“i bought this a few months back and still havent sat down to watch it
i hope its good ”
“i bought this a few months back and still havent sat down to watch it
i hope its good ”
I'm not a 'Who-vian' really, just drawn to this thread, as one of my earliest memories as a child were connected to Dr Who - and both were 'Sarah Jane moments': A man with a pitch fork threatening her (That turned out to be 'Seeds Of Doom') & SJ falling thru rubble in a quarry and seeing a moving hand ('The Hand Of Fear'), both scenes left me absolutely terrified!
Talons Of Weng Chiang was another really creepy one!
Back to Key To Time Though, its very creaky, but has its moments. The voice-overs by Tom & Mary are absolutely hilarious! their 'thesp' humor really comes through.
Tom talking about an actress's 'stagey' performance "Love those nostrils flaring!"
Again, that had some scary moments for me - the first two episodes of 'The Stones Of Blood' had an occult theme, then it all goes 'Crystal maze'?! WTF?!
Mary deserved at least one more series! She was one of the few assistants with Tom, that wasn't 'damsel-in-distress', maybe that was the problem?
Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt:
“He did appear in The Three Doctors though, 'as seen on TV.'
Weren't the scenes filmed at his home and later edited into the show. He was apparently too ill to travel to the studios.”
“He did appear in The Three Doctors though, 'as seen on TV.'
Weren't the scenes filmed at his home and later edited into the show. He was apparently too ill to travel to the studios.”
No - that's an old DWM chestnut*. His scenes were done in one day at Ealing.
There were two photoshoots of all 3 docs done (a BBC one for the Radio Times; and an outdoor press one). It's been said one of those was done at Hartnell's cottage (hence the confusion) but I'm not sure anybody knows/remembers for certain.
(* DWM was very unreliable it its early days. They once said the early episodes went out live. And they got quite a run on "The War Games" being the "longest story".)
Originally Posted by Dalekbuster523:
“Well, put it this way: do you really think they'd axe the Doctor Who equivalent of Princess Diana (in terms of popularity)?”
“Well, put it this way: do you really think they'd axe the Doctor Who equivalent of Princess Diana (in terms of popularity)?”
TV networks have done stupid things when it comes to talent.
Originally Posted by Isambard Brunel:
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What about William Hartnell, Sylvester McCoy and Paul McGann?”
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What about William Hartnell, Sylvester McCoy and Paul McGann?”
Hartnell wasn't forced out, he eventually accepted his health was becoming an issue and stood aside. McCoy was only sacked in that the entire show was cancelled, technically he was still the Doctor for spin off media etc. McGann only ever had a contract for one movie, and again was still the Doctor for spin off media etc.
It was only Colin Baker who was actually sacked and replaced whilst the show was on the air.
Originally Posted by cat666:
“Hartnell wasn't forced out, he eventually accepted his health was becoming an issue and stood aside. McCoy was only sacked in that the entire show was cancelled, technically he was still the Doctor for spin off media etc. McGann only ever had a contract for one movie, and again was still the Doctor for spin off media etc.
It was only Colin Baker who was actually sacked and replaced whilst the show was on the air.”
“Hartnell wasn't forced out, he eventually accepted his health was becoming an issue and stood aside. McCoy was only sacked in that the entire show was cancelled, technically he was still the Doctor for spin off media etc. McGann only ever had a contract for one movie, and again was still the Doctor for spin off media etc.
It was only Colin Baker who was actually sacked and replaced whilst the show was on the air.”
Except he wasn't "sacked". That term suggests the termination of an ongoing contract, usually as a result of misconduct by the employee. In reality, the BBC merely declined the option to extend a contract which was drawn up in their favour.
As well as the above, however, it's no secret that certain people wanted him gone, totally unfairly.
Originally Posted by Dalekbuster523:
“Well, he's probably more comparable to Prince Harry popularity (popular but not as popular as others higher up).”
“Well, he's probably more comparable to Prince Harry popularity (popular but not as popular as others higher up).”
That's looking at it today. In 1974, Jon Pertwee was VERY popular (when he left the show the ratings were a lot better than they were at the end of the Hartnell or Troughton eras, so he had in most people's minds become "the Doctor") and even Tom Baker has said that replacing him was considered a big hurdle at the time.
Originally Posted by thebestnamesgon:
“Tom was close to Sladen, but his motivation to travel alone after her departure was principally he didn't feel an assistant was needed, as he could carry the show alone.
He carried on this same request throughout most of his tenure.”
“Tom was close to Sladen, but his motivation to travel alone after her departure was principally he didn't feel an assistant was needed, as he could carry the show alone.
He carried on this same request throughout most of his tenure.”
I think Tom had disappeared up his own bottom by that point and started to believe he was the show.
Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt:
“What about Peter Purves?”
“What about Peter Purves?”
Peter Purves didn't play the Doctor. We're talking about actors who played the Doctor.
Originally Posted by Mulett:
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And I do feel sorry for Colin Baker, being remember as the Doctor who was sacked. Why does no one remember that McCoy got the show cancelled!”
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And I do feel sorry for Colin Baker, being remember as the Doctor who was sacked. Why does no one remember that McCoy got the show cancelled!”
LOL A bit much to blame it all on McCoy. McCoy wasn't the producer making bad production decisions, he wasn't the script editor commissioning stories no one could make sense of, he wasn't the BBC executive assigning the pitiful budgets to the show and he wasn't scheduling it against Corrie!
Both Colin and Sylvester are and forever will be remembered by the general public as the "lost Doctors", so they're very much in the same boat IMHO. Anyone remember when Mark Gatiss referred to them as "any ****er with an Equity card"?
Originally Posted by chuffnobbler:
“A lot of DW assistants didn't go on to have fantastic careers after their DW experience, and some say it killed their career entirely. It's a very different world now, compared with Back In The Day.”
“A lot of DW assistants didn't go on to have fantastic careers after their DW experience, and some say it killed their career entirely. It's a very different world now, compared with Back In The Day.”
That's absolutely true. Typecasting was a big problem back then in TV. If an actor was a star of a big series, they often found they coudn't get another job. So different from today, when Doctor Who made David Tennant into the actor everybody wanted in everything and he's not been off the screen since.
Originally Posted by Mulett:
“ I get the impression the actors who played the Doctor back in the 80s didn't earn an awful lot.”
“ I get the impression the actors who played the Doctor back in the 80s didn't earn an awful lot.”
Jon Pertwee claimed his salary was "pitiful" and "terrible" back in the '70s. He said he was on about £300 a week. You can make your own mind up whether that was bad back in the early '70s.
Originally Posted by CELT1987:
“I'm not aware that Pertwee and Baker spoke to each other. I can imagine that neither of them would have been friends.”
“I'm not aware that Pertwee and Baker spoke to each other. I can imagine that neither of them would have been friends.”
I don't think Tom's been very friendly with many people from Doctor Who, has he? He's always kept himself very much apart. He was also famously difficult on the show when he was doing it.
Originally Posted by be more pacific:
“Except he wasn't "sacked". That term suggests the termination of an ongoing contract, usually as a result of misconduct by the employee. In reality, the BBC merely declined the option to extend a contract which was drawn up in their favour.”
“Except he wasn't "sacked". That term suggests the termination of an ongoing contract, usually as a result of misconduct by the employee. In reality, the BBC merely declined the option to extend a contract which was drawn up in their favour.”
That's being a bit semantic. He wasn't given an option to continue and his performance was being judged as a failure by high-ups at the BBC. His departure was not of his choice and it was the first time a BBC executive had interfered in the casting process, so it was most unusual.
Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt:
“Or did she decide to leave? Thanks.”
“Or did she decide to leave? Thanks.”
Elisabeth Sladen was not axed.
Originally Posted by Jon Ross:
“That's absolutely true. Typecasting was a big problem back then in TV. If an actor was a star of a big series, they often found they coudn't get another job. So different from today, when Doctor Who made David Tennant into the actor everybody wanted in everything and he's not been off the screen since.”
“That's absolutely true. Typecasting was a big problem back then in TV. If an actor was a star of a big series, they often found they coudn't get another job. So different from today, when Doctor Who made David Tennant into the actor everybody wanted in everything and he's not been off the screen since.”
Can't seem to get anywhere in the US though.
One pilot not taken up & one other only had one series.
Never mind DT, there's still Virgin Media & countless voiceovers.
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