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Madonna - Ghosttown, chart position ?
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the chauffeur
19-04-2015
Ok, so Ghosttown is to be the next single. Where do you think it will get to ?
StratusSphere
19-04-2015
I'm guessing maybe #80. Might crack the top 75 if she's lucky or the top 50 if she gets a TV slot to promo it. Possibly higher if she gets playlisted on Radio 2, but I'm not expecting waves.
Hitstastic
19-04-2015
It might not even make the top 100 which is a shame.

Ghosttown has been floating between #80-100 on iTunes since the music video was released, but I don't think the track is popular at all on Spotify.

A lack of stream sales will only push the song further down the chart. Madonna would need to get the song inside the iTunes top 40 to get an official top 75 chart entry.

Or make it 59p and see if that helps. That said, I've not seen the video to Ghosttown once all week on any of the UK music channels. Are any of them actually showing the video at all?
Aura101
19-04-2015
Originally Posted by Hitstastic:
“It might not even make the top 100 which is a shame.

Ghosttown has been floating between #80-100 on iTunes since the music video was released, but I don't think the track is popular at all on Spotify.

A lack of stream sales will only push the song further down the chart. Madonna would need to get the song inside the iTunes top 40 to get an official top 75 chart entry.

Or make it 59p and see if that helps. That said, I've not seen the video to Ghosttown once all week on any of the UK music channels. Are any of them actually showing the video at all?”

my guess is no. as i saw living for love a few times but no Ghosttown at all.

much in the same way the music channels showed ''Give me all your love'' (or whatever it was called) but did not show the follow up 'Girl gone wild' at all
Heathyheath_
19-04-2015
I really like Ghosttown but unfortunately I can't see it making the top 40 and think it'll be lucky to even make the top 75. Unfortunately with the advent of streaming it's even more difficult to crack the top 40 nowadays and the majority of Madonna fans will already have the song to make things even worse.
boysforpele
19-04-2015
she needs a UK pinnacle moment - bgt? alan carr? to increase iTunes sales and Streaming... and to release a remix ep with the original song .... to make the charts ...it is encouraging how airplay is good and the song has featured within the top 100 iTunes for the last 4 weeks...
ritchie2yk
19-04-2015
Originally Posted by boysforpele:
“she needs a UK pinnacle moment - bgt? alan carr? to increase iTunes sales and Streaming... and to release a remix ep with the original song .... to make the charts ...it is encouraging how airplay is good and the song has featured within the top 100 iTunes for the last 4 weeks...”

To be fair she couldn't have asked for much more of a pinnacle moment than falling over at the brits and that didn't really help, this has got no chance of cracking the top 40
Aneechik
19-04-2015
I can't see it in the top 40. She'll need better material for a decent chart position.
RetroMusicFan
19-04-2015
I have absolutely no idea!

I do love the song though, one of her best on the album and I like the video too!
my name is joe
19-04-2015
if it's one of the best on her album it doesn't say much for the album. Iv'e heard it a few times on the radio now and with each listen it becomes more of an ordeal. In what way is it supposed to be a good song?
Leicester_Hunk
19-04-2015
The song isn't that bad at all.

If it was released by Ellie Goulding it would go to No 1.

Make of that what you will.
Petrolicious
20-04-2015
Originally Posted by Aneechik:
“I can't see it in the top 40. She'll need better material for a decent chart position.”

What..like Hold My Hand? Or the other forgettable number 1 before that? GT is a great song. Like another poster said, had it been sung by flavour of the month artist, it would be no 1.

I think the quality of the music has VERY little impact on chart position. It's all about who is popular and who is cool. The British have always been sheep in the regard.
my name is joe
20-04-2015
Originally Posted by Petrolicious:
“What..like Hold My Hand? Or the other forgettable number 1 before that? GT is a great song. Like another poster said, had it been sung by flavour of the month artist, it would be no 1.

I think the quality of the music has VERY little impact on chart position. It's all about who is popular and who is cool. The British have always been sheep in the regard.”

that's right, including when Madonna was popular.

What is the idea that the song would be no1 if sung by someone else meant to mean anyway? Might as well say any male artists song would be no1 if only it was sung by 1Direction. And getting to no1 wouldn't make it any better as you suggest at the beginning of your post.
marc822
20-04-2015
I dont think madonna will have another number 1 single again. shes on cher territory now.
Petrolicious
21-04-2015
Originally Posted by my name is joe:
“that's right, including when Madonna was popular.

What is the idea that the song would be no1 if sung by someone else meant to mean anyway? Might as well say any male artists song would be no1 if only it was sung by 1Direction. And getting to no1 wouldn't make it any better as you suggest at the beginning of your post.”

Because it was a reply to the previous poster who said Madonna needed better material to get better chart positions. This we know is simply not true.
Aneechik
21-04-2015
Originally Posted by Petrolicious:
“Because it was a reply to the previous poster who said Madonna needed better material to get better chart positions. This we know is simply not true.”

We don't know that at all. If an artist makes good music and gets hits then starts making shit music that disappears without trace, it's quite logical to assume that the music is the problem. Let's not pretend the sky is green.
dd68
21-04-2015
It's an amazing song , my niece of 12 loves it, I think she is just not regarded as hip any more, a dreadful shame
Petrolicious
21-04-2015
Originally Posted by Aneechik:
“We don't know that at all. If an artist makes good music and gets hits then starts making shit music that disappears without trace, it's quite logical to assume that the music is the problem. Let's not pretend the sky is green.”

So Ghostown is not a good song, yet 4, 5 seconds is, or any lead single from X factor is? Nick Jonas and Iggy Azelea is good music is it? Please. Your statement is naeive beyond belief.
Petrolicious
21-04-2015
Originally Posted by marc822:
“I dont think madonna will have another number 1 single again. shes on cher territory now.”

Cher was in her 50's when she hit no 1 with Believe.
Carly_Thompson
21-04-2015
People are quick to assume it's only because it's Madonna that people aren't buying the song. It's not, if Ellie Goulding released this it wouldn't be number one either or even close to it. Ghosttown is the kind of track that is suitable for an album, but not as a single. It's not strong enough, especially to release it when the weather is getting sunnier and hotter - she should have released another uptempo track and then maybe a slower one towards the end of the year.

Devil Pray, Unapologetic Bitch, illuminati or Addicted (off the second deluxe disc album) all stand a better chance than Ghosttown.
marc822
21-04-2015
Not feeling this album at all, she needed to work with david guetta and have a massive club anthem, or calvin harris. Maybe some axwell too. Nothing really sticks out as chart success on here.
Gigi4
21-04-2015
Originally Posted by marc822:
“Not feeling this album at all, she needed to work with david guetta and have a massive club anthem, or calvin harris. Maybe some axwell too. Nothing really sticks out as chart success on here.”

Thank God she didn't go in that direction. The album may not be a hit but it's a much more interesting and personal record. I don't find David Guetta or Calvin Harris or typical club anthems that interesting.
I know she's known as a dance/club artist but I hope she continues to experiment and not do just stereotypical club music. I find that a bit boring. I guess a lot of her fans do go for club anthems, but I've always had more eclectic taste in music. I can see as she gets older her experimenting with different sounds and incorporating her guitar playing more and more.

I think Ghosttown is a great record. I really don't think the "quality" of a song has much to do with reaching #1. Can you really say every song that reaches #1 is quality.
I just think having a #1 record isn't what it used to be. Does anyone remember what the #1 record is now from week to week.
Reem2011
21-04-2015
Adam Lambert Ghost town will hit Number 1
StratusSphere
21-04-2015
She's releasing material that she wants to, not material that people (the majority of people, that is, not her fans) see as appropriate for someone her age. Cher - Believe is a good counterexample - in that video, Cher was v. much a maternal, 'cool mom' figure. Madonna's still going for 'independent woman' which is cool and I think she can do whatever she wants, but the public aren't on board with women over a certain age doing that.

Let's be honest, how many women over 50 being independent and non-maternal do we see on TV anyway? presenting or talking or anything, let alone being performers or singers releasing pop music. It's an uphill struggle for her.

But having said that, who says she's chasing chart positions? She doesn't seem particularly desperate for them. I personally think she's just releasing singles to make music videos, just because she's Madonna and she can.

Yeah, Ghosttown's not a bad song, but its not the kind of style that's particularly popular now. Once again, people only remember the 'good' songs from yesteryear, the majority of music in the charts is always flavour of the moment. The charts are literally the songs that are most popular at the minute. Sure, you can say they're not great musically or whatever, but that's kind of irrelevant because they don't pretend to be a list of the 'best' songs around at the minute.
Aneechik
21-04-2015
Originally Posted by Petrolicious:
“So Ghostown is not a good song, yet 4, 5 seconds is, or any lead single from X factor is? Nick Jonas and Iggy Azelea is good music is it? Please. Your statement is naeive beyond belief.”

What you're saying is that because crap music is getting to number 1, then Madonna should be a shoe in because her current music is just as bad. She's in her late 50s and completely irrelevant to the teens that buy singles; she's excluded from getting hits due to name alone, therefore she needs better material. It really isn't rocket science.
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