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Old 18-12-2016, 00:18
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Darth Vader lives around the corner from me. He really does.
Local boy, Spencer Wilding is a long-time friend of mine and apart from supporting his Thai Boxing career and attending a few matches of his over the past 20 odd years, I've seen his film career grow and grow from costumed parts to supporting actor parts.
I remember him being so chuffed at playing a Vogan in the Hitchhiker's/Galaxy film, even though he was completely swamped by the huge costume and thinking he wouldn't top that.
Not bad for a lad that used to have learning difficulties at school, I'm so proud of him.
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Old 18-12-2016, 09:18
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Have to say I thought it was pretty terrific, the final 3rd was off the chart good. I liked especially the film had the courage of its convictions. A very strong entry in the Star Wars universe.
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Old 18-12-2016, 09:54
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There were a few scene in the trailers that didn't make the final cut. While I know this isn't unusual in itself, it does make me wonder what was changed as a result of the reshoots.

Personally I think the first time we see Vader was added later just to make sure there was more of him. Didn't really add anything to the story, and I just got the impression the last scene with him was supposed to be the "big reveal" moment. While I did want to see more of him, I can't help but think "that" scene was dampened somewhat as a result.
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Old 18-12-2016, 10:01
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Old 18-12-2016, 12:08
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Eggchen I don't think the Cassian fact that he is a rebel and his mission to be part of his character background.As it despite being part of his development it's still just his role in the film

The mission is a slight development but doesn't add much to the character apart from showing he is less bland than the rest of his team!
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Old 18-12-2016, 13:26
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Saw it Friday and enjoyed it certainly more than episodes 1-3. But was constantly preoccupied near the end waiting for lots of Bothans to turn up then get killed.
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Old 18-12-2016, 13:31
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Saw it Friday and enjoyed it certainly more than episodes 1-3. But was constantly preoccupied near the end waiting for lots of Bothans to turn up then get killed.
That was the second Death Star.
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Old 18-12-2016, 13:34
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Saw it Friday and enjoyed it certainly more than episodes 1-3. But was constantly preoccupied near the end waiting for lots of Bothans to turn up then get killed.
need to bone up on your Star Wars history a bit...
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Old 18-12-2016, 14:39
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Saw it Friday and enjoyed it certainly more than episodes 1-3. But was constantly preoccupied near the end waiting for lots of Bothans to turn up then get killed.
Coming Soon: Rogue 2. Many Bothans Die. Starring Tom Cruise.
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Old 18-12-2016, 15:39
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When i first heard about it my first thought was: surely for this to work basically
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Low and behold.... Very surprised.
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Old 18-12-2016, 16:14
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Yeah I had the same thought about Rogue One when it was announced but I wasn't sure if Disney would go through with it for it to work!
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Old 18-12-2016, 19:02
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There were a few scene in the trailers that didn't make the final cut. While I know this isn't unusual in itself, it does make me wonder what was changed as a result of the reshoots.

Personally I think the first time we see Vader was added later just to make sure there was more of him. Didn't really add anything to the story, and I just got the impression the last scene with him was supposed to be the "big reveal" moment. While I did want to see more of him, I can't help but think "that" scene was dampened somewhat as a result.
Interesting idea, that being the first people would see of Vader in the movie. He made quite an impression in that scene, you could feel peoples excitement (and hear it!). I imagine it would have been a pretty impactful first impression if we hadn't already seen him.

Overall, despite any niggles, Rogue One is hugely successful.
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Old 18-12-2016, 22:00
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The journey of Rouge One is a rough one but by film’s end, I was satisfied with the conclusion and overall product. I do hope that in the future, Disney decides to release the original director version of this film so we can compare and contrast who’s vision was better in the long run but as a one-off prequel Rogue One: A Star Wars Story is a solid footnote in the ever expanding Star Wars Timeline. I enjoyed the overall cast of characters in this movie much more than I did Force Awakens and this at least gave me faith in the standalone film series. As far as the Main Storyline, I’ll reserve my final judgment for Star Wars: Episode VIII next December.


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Also, I'm worried that the studio heads are relying too much on Nostalgia and callbacks of previous Star Wars films rather than taking a chance on a standalone movie like this actually standing alone.
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Old 18-12-2016, 23:05
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The best Star Wars movie since the originals in my personal opinion

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Old 19-12-2016, 00:03
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Think I'm in a minority of one here but I didn't particularly enjoy it. It had a downbeat feel, it was quite serious.

There was no lightness to it, no humour. I didn't get any of the warm feeling I've gotten from most Star Wars films. This film was grim, & violent, even by Star Wars usual standards. The plotline wasn't the easiest to follow at first. The film dragged a bit at the beginning & took some time to get going although I agree the ending was very good.

As for the CGI I didnt think (main character) was as good as people have made out, they STILL didnt look convincing. Neither did the other CGI at the end although I have no idea why they didnt just superimpose the face from the earlier film onto a body double? (If they did it wasn't a bad shot at it but wasn't amazing)

For me the Force Awakens was vastly superior
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Old 19-12-2016, 00:18
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I came out of this movie feeling incredibly cold:

- NO connection with any characters. Nothing to root for whatsoever. Where as with Force Awakens I could go "Oh BB8 was hilarious, Rey and Finn were really cool together and Poe was pretty cool if underutilised", with this movie I know none of their names other than Jyn, and none of the characters got given any form of character development because the movie was so action heavy.

- The action... wasn't that varied. It was just people shooting each other and blowing each other up. Great. Thanks. Incredibly boring 2 and a half hour watch. The only saving graces were Donnie Yen and Darth Vader, the 2 characters in the film who could use the force. Which is problematic because it proves that Star Wars is nothing without the force/jedi/sith.

- The deaths (thats not a spoiler because of course certain characters are going to die) were all incredibly anti-climactic. One could argue that in war death happens swiftly and suddenly and thus this movie nails it. But for pete's sake, not one death felt satisfiying at all. And when you combine that with no connection to the characters you get an incredibly disjointed experience.

- The references to the other movies while brief were incredibly poorly shoe-horned in for the sake of winking to the audience.

- The CGI of those 2 familiar characters. The one who appeared in the final scene was incredibly well done, but the other one? Who had about 5 or 6 scenes? So incredibly jarring. Couldn't focus at all on what that character was saying because it was so off putting.

- Vader. Vader has 2 scenes in this movie, the first is so incredibly pointless and offers literally nothing of value to the film, and the 2nd while great lasts only 3 minutes. What is the point of having Vader in a movie like this and utilising him so little?

Could have been a great, great Star Wars movie, but the execution was SO poor. Thanks to this leaving such a bad taste in my mouth I'm now also feeling skeptical about all the upcoming movies now that they're pumping them out anually, and I feel heartbroken saying that as I loved all 7 previous Star Wars movies.

I give Rogue One a 4/10, I wish I had seen the movie those hyperbolic "WOW ITS THE BEST STAR WARS SINCE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK ITS SO GOOD!!" had seen.
I totally agree with this analysis.

I didnt get ths film.
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Old 19-12-2016, 01:03
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I just got back from seeing it and i really enjoyed it. In my opinion it was better than episode 7. Even though i like episode 7, there were moments in that film that i really hated, i didn't get that with this one though. Even though this film started out kind of slow and i thought i wasn't going to enjoy it that much, it really started to pick up after the first 20 minutes.

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Old 19-12-2016, 02:10
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Also, I'm worried that the studio heads are relying too much on Nostalgia and callbacks of previous Star Wars films rather than taking a chance on a standalone movie like this actually standing alone.
I hope that episodes 10 - 12 - which I guess will happen next decade - will move away from the First Order vs Resistance/ Jedi. Longer term I hope Disney will have the creative courage to move away from Lucas' original vision of Star Wars. Sure, it was fantastic but that was then (like 1977 - 1983!) and we don't need six or more new SW films with the same villains and more Death Star type weapons. At some point someone has to convince Disney to take a radical step with SW - all new villains challenging/changing the SW universe. But I can't see that happening for some time.

Just imagine if the First Order is defeated in SW ep 9 and in ep 10 - which could be set some time later - a new criminal organization appears and challenges the new republic. There is a major potential in new villains rather than rehashing old ones which is what Rogue One is all about - rehashing Lucas' vision but tweaking/removing stuff (such as the Jedi).
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Old 19-12-2016, 02:44
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Anakin/Vader is defiantly the most powerful Jedi of all time. If his emotions didn't get in the way with Luke he would've dominated him easily.

I would like to see a movie where we see the possibility of Vader surviving, like in one of the comics.
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Old 19-12-2016, 05:51
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Anakin/Vader is defiantly the most powerful Jedi of all time. If his emotions didn't get in the way with Luke he would've dominated him easily.

I would like to see a movie where we see the possibility of Vader surviving, like in one of the comics.
I don't think he would have beaten Yoda though. As Anakin he may have surpassed Yoda one day, but even then it would have been a long shot. Anakin is human, he wouldn't live for over 900 years like Yoda. Also, Yoda could have been much more powerful when he was younger.

He would never have surpassed Yoda as Vader.Vader is powerful, but he has limitations in that suit of his. Emperor Palpatine could kill Vader easily and Emperor Palpatine couldn't even beat Yoda.
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Old 19-12-2016, 07:15
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Thoroughly enjoyed Rogue One, can't wait to see it again.
My 19 year old daughter as we were coming out of the cinema
"I just don't get it, way too confusing"
Whys that Gena?
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Old 19-12-2016, 07:31
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Think I'm in a minority of one here but I didn't particularly enjoy it. It had a downbeat feel, it was quite serious.

There was no lightness to it, no humour. I didn't get any of the warm feeling I've gotten from most Star Wars films. This film was grim, & violent, even by Star Wars usual standards. The plotline wasn't the easiest to follow at first. The film dragged a bit at the beginning & took some time to get going although I agree the ending was very good.

As for the CGI I didnt think (main character) was as good as people have made out, they STILL didnt look convincing. Neither did the other CGI at the end although I have no idea why they didnt just superimpose the face from the earlier film onto a body double? (If they did it wasn't a bad shot at it but wasn't amazing)

For me the Force Awakens was vastly superior
What film were you watching? I was amazed at how quickly things moved along at the beginning. You didn't go to a viewing of A New Hope by mistake did you?
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Old 19-12-2016, 08:17
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What film were you watching? I was amazed at how quickly things moved along at the beginning. You didn't go to a viewing of A New Hope by mistake did you?
You don't have to agree with any of it, but the points are valid. The beginning / first half hour is probably the thing most people are unsatisfied with. It's a decent film, but it's a mixed bag. There is lot praise for the good stuff and rightly so; but pacing, lack of warmth, no attachment to central characters & the soundtrack all have come under fire.
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Old 19-12-2016, 09:32
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The one scene that could have been better was when Donnie Yen decided to walk across to get to the switch. I would have like to have seen him at least deflect some of the shot with his staff in a 'just barely made it' way.
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Old 19-12-2016, 10:45
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My thoughts on it (with spoilers);

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