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Old 19-12-2016, 10:48
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Overall a very strong entry to the Star Wars series. I actually thought it was better than Force Awakens which, while I enjoyed it, did feel very 'Star Wars by numbers'.

The final third absolutely blew me away. It was just as good, if not better than anything we saw in the originals. That space battle was stunning and I loved the action on the surface of Scarif. *That* scene with Vader at the end was the best in the entire movie.

I was impressed with CGI Tarkin when he first appeared, but that one scene should have been it. It became slightly distracting. Also, I felt revealing Leia's face at the end was unnecessary; I'd rather they kept the mystery by showing her from behind/with the hood concealing her face. The CGI was good but not quite there yet. But anyway, I'm nitpicking. This was a seriously great movie.

I was fanboying hard when Vader's 'castle' appeared.

This is exactly what the prequel trilogy should have been like: interesting characters, a good villain, cameos that make sense, and a world that actually resembles the original trilogy.
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Old 19-12-2016, 11:20
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Just goes to the show the difference when you sign a director who focuses on characters rather than simply CGI.

Reminded very much of Empire not only in tone but how actors played the characters without any full on overacting (Ian McDiarmuid in Revenge of the Sith) or unnecessary romance (clunky love scenes in attack of the clones).

Edwards was forced to put in CGI Tarkin and Leia because we're talking 40 years from A New Hope and both characters were fundamental to this storyline. CGI isn't ideal but how they were portrayed was excellent and how Edwards linked that seventies feel between a modern film to a seventies sci-fi classic was brilliant.

I personally think this is up there with Empire and having watched it twice now, I can't wait to see it again and actually savour the scenes knowing what's happening next.

This is how the prequels should have been filmed. Revenge of the Sith should have been darker and whilst the lightsabre fight on Mustafar was essential it could have been played more subtly and exploit the character more. That said, Edwards had some quality actors, Lucas had Christensen.
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Old 19-12-2016, 13:58
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need to bone up on your Star Wars history a bit...
Just as well I didn't mention the Kaiburr crystal from Splinter of the Minds eye and how confused a whole planet of them exists.
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Old 19-12-2016, 16:29
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Well, I enjoyed it and want to see it again. The best scene was
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I think it's much better than The Force Awakens. I rewatched that again last week and, even though it's now gone up in my estimation (free from the weight of great expectation), I think Rogue One is the better film.
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Old 19-12-2016, 16:36
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Just as well I didn't mention the Kaiburr crystal from Splinter of the Minds eye and how confused a whole planet of them exists.
Well yeah, just as well, because you're confusing the Kaiburr crystal from the no-canon Splinter of the Mind's Eye, with the Kyber crystals of Rogue One, Clone Wars & Rebels.
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Old 19-12-2016, 17:05
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I think it's much better than The Force Awakens. I rewatched that again last week and, even though it's now gone up in my estimation (free from the weight of great expectation), I think Rogue One is the better film.
I watched TFA as soon as we got home from watching Rogue One. I've said it already, but the biggest difference is the acting - Rogue One is by far the best acted film in the whole franchise. That takes nothing away from TFA, which is still has better performances than the other films, too.
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Old 19-12-2016, 17:24
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I found the acting in Rogue One underwhelming where as the TFA acting was probably too over the top. So neither was great in that department. But then again, I've never watched Star Wars for the acting,
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Old 19-12-2016, 18:06
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Rogue One is the number 1 movie of the year.

Force Awakens was too perfect, too goody goody, too much rainbows.. Rei was basically unstoppable and Finn become a Jedi years before his time.
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Old 19-12-2016, 18:09
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Another thing, when Darth Vader appeared, the whole cinema marked out !! loudest cheers ever..
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Old 19-12-2016, 18:10
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Rogue One is the number 1 movie of the year.

Force Awakens was too perfect, too goody goody, too much rainbows.. Rei was basically unstoppable and Finn become a Jedi years before his time.
You really need to pay more attention if you think Finn became a Jedi.
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Old 19-12-2016, 18:13
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Another thing, when Darth Vader appeared, the whole cinema marked out !! loudest cheers ever..
I'm still yet to go to a cinema that has people cheering at something, personally i hope that never happens

I have been to a few now where the little s**** above us have thrown popcorn at people, last night being one of those times
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Old 19-12-2016, 18:38
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Mon Mothma's line from A New Hope stuck with me for 30+ years. One line, beautifully delivered in an understated way. It said so much. This is one of the reasons I love that they have made a whole film from that one line. It rang in my ears as I watched.
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Old 19-12-2016, 18:40
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Finn become a Jedi years before his time.
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Old 19-12-2016, 18:46
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Mon Mothma's line from A New Hope stuck with me for 30+ years. One line, beautifully delivered in an understated way. It said so much. This is one of the reasons I love that they have made a whole film from that one line. It rang in my ears as I watched.
Not sure how to break this to you but, well, your memories of 30+ years are...false.
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Old 19-12-2016, 18:53
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Mon Mothma's line from A New Hope stuck with me for 30+ years. One line, beautifully delivered in an understated way. It said so much. This is one of the reasons I love that they have made a whole film from that one line. It rang in my ears as I watched.
What line would that be, considering she's not actually in A New Hope?
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Old 19-12-2016, 18:54
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Finn a Jedi? Mon Mothma in A New Hope?

Are some of you watching some kind of "In a Mirror, Darkly" version of the Star Wars saga?
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Old 19-12-2016, 20:11
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Coming Soon: Rogue 2. Many Bothans Die. Starring Tom Cruise.
Or 'Revenge Of The Bothans'... To be pulled at the last minute to 'Return Of The Bothans'....
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Old 19-12-2016, 20:56
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Not sure how to break this to you but, well, your memories of 30+ years are...false.
Oh Christ, you're right this is what you get when your 7 year old watches them so constantly to the point they all merge into one and also become background noise. But despite the number of times it's been in my house I never once heard the word Bothans.
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Old 19-12-2016, 21:47
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Anyone really wanna see a Peter Jackson Star Wars movie? I think that could be amazing if he avoids the mistakes of the Hobbit and goes back to what made the Lord of the Rings trilogy so great. I think he'd be perfect for Star Wars.
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Old 19-12-2016, 21:58
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Well yeah, just as well, because you're confusing the Kaiburr crystal from the no-canon Splinter of the Mind's Eye, with the Kyber crystals of Rogue One, Clone Wars & Rebels.
Ummm. Never seen any of those -I'm an adult and don't watch cartoons. And I didn't see any cannons .
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Old 19-12-2016, 22:17
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Ummm. Never seen any of those -I'm an adult and don't watch cartoons. And I didn't see any cannons .
Though I take it you have seen Rogue One. So putting aside the tv series, point stands.
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Old 19-12-2016, 22:33
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Anyone really wanna see a Peter Jackson Star Wars movie? I think that could be amazing if he avoids the mistakes of the Hobbit and goes back to what made the Lord of the Rings trilogy so great. I think he'd be perfect for Star Wars.
"Oi can't lift this rock Mr Frodo, but oi could lift you"
"Use..............the.............Force......................................Saaaaaaaam"
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Old 20-12-2016, 11:07
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Really enjoyed Rogue One. Wasn't as excited as I was when force awakens came out but it was a good addition to the franchise. The battle scenes were epic and just how I imagined when reading the old EU books. Far far better than suicide squad, which I saw last weekend finally.

It was quite refreshing seeing how they managed to get the plans to the death star in a time when there weren't very many Jedi around and how it was in-keeping with the originals. I liked how it lead up to a New Hope, and in some way has made me think about episode 4 differently.

3.5 out of 5 for me.
Better than the prequels and slightly better than Return of the Jedi.
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Old 20-12-2016, 17:09
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Anyone really wanna see a Peter Jackson Star Wars movie? I think that could be amazing if he avoids the mistakes of the Hobbit and goes back to what made the Lord of the Rings trilogy so great. I think he'd be perfect for Star Wars.
god no , those Hobbit movies were worse than the prequels .

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Old 20-12-2016, 20:36
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There were a few scene in the trailers that didn't make the final cut. While I know this isn't unusual in itself, it does make me wonder what was changed as a result of the reshoots.

Personally I think the first time we see Vader was added later just to make sure there was more of him. Didn't really add anything to the story, and I just got the impression the last scene with him was supposed to be the "big reveal" moment. While I did want to see more of him, I can't help but think "that" scene was dampened somewhat as a result.
Completely agree about the impact. I've no idea how much of Vader was originally meant to be in our what was changed or added, but I came away thinking that his first appearance should have been in the dark corridor at the end when we hear his breathing and then his light saber ignites... That was pretty awesome!

His earlier scenes added nothing and if anything took me out of it as I listened to Old James Earl Jones voice.

Same goes for Tarkin. I really think he should have been a figure in the shadows, perhaps only being revealed at the time of the test when he steps forward to say "You may fire when ready."
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