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It's not about need. We didn't need the film at all...we don't need any film for that matter. We actually didn't know how many people had died to get those plans, all we knew was that they managed to escape with the plans after one battle. Beyond that your reasons just aren't convincing, even just the assumption that there had been deaths in the battle isn't a reason to not try to make the characters connect with the audience.
PS: I'm impressed, that's two whole posts without you mentioning TFA is a copy of ANH. |
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1) Roughly same length as all the others isn't it?
2) Fair enough, your opinion. 3) For the same reason that the Millennium Falcon needs to be fixed with hydro spanners? 4) He was a major player in the Empire at that time, and it sets up why he was pursuing the blockade runner in Ep IV 5) I thought it was acceptable for the amount of screen time it had. |
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Really......what was the connection to Star Wars.......take out minimum appearances by Darth Vader and Princess Leia and the film could easily have been promoted to it's audience under the title "Space Heroes".
Did you enjoy the film? |
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Really......what was the connection to Star Wars.......take out minimum appearances by Darth Vader and Princess Leia and the film could easily have been promoted to it's audience under the title "Space Heroes".
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I'm unsure of the point you're trying to make.
Did you enjoy the film? Previous to that none of the characters had any charisma and neither did the plot feel as if it had any link to the Star Wars story. |
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I don't remember Tarkin being that gigantic in the originals lol. It was good but I felt it was lacking something, the characters where a bit boring. It was Star Wars without the great characters so I just sat there waiting for Han Solo and Luke to turn up. Vader#s battle scene was great but the talking stuff didn't work so well for me. The problem is in creating a new universe so you dont keep looking at the past, Force Awakens was a step in the right direction character wise.
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Really......what was the connection to Star Wars.......take out minimum appearances by Darth Vader and Princess Leia and the film could easily have been promoted to it's audience under the title "Space Heroes".
The connection was clear, but you didn't like it, I get that. That's fine. |
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I'm old enough to have seen the first Star Wars in the 70s when it first came out - Rougue One gave me the same feeling of excitement and the cinematography was fantastic. Would definitely recommend seeing it.
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I was bored rigid up to the point the "space battle" scenes commenced. I was watching in 2D..........the CGI was so good it felt as if it was 3D. I'd give the film top marks for those scenes.
Previous to that none of the characters had any charisma and neither did the plot feel as if it had any link to the Star Wars story. It had plenty of links to the original story - and besides, it didn't need to have too many links to the Star Wars story anyway - it's part of the Anthology series and considered a standalone film. |
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It had plenty of links to the original story - and besides, it didn't need to have too many links to the Star Wars story anyway - it's part of the Anthology series and considered a standalone film.
I mean, sure, you can watch it without watching the others but you could say that about most of the Star Wars movies
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It seems odd that it's considered standalone as it seems to be a direct prequel to Episode IV.
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True, but there'll be no direct sequel and it's not part of the new ongoing SW narrative (Ep. 7 onwards). Simply a one-off tale drawn from the series' past. A standalone in that sense.
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It might change, but at this point anticipation for the Han Solo film seems lukewarm. The Boba Fett film hasn't been taken off the table, but hasn't been confirmed either - which wouldn't bother me either way as I've never been a member of the Boba Fett cult. A rumoured Kenobi film would be well received by many fans, particularly depending on where they decide to go with Rey's lineage.
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It might change, but at this point anticipation for the Han Solo film seems lukewarm. The Boba Fett film hasn't been taken off the table, but hasn't been confirmed either - which wouldn't bother me either way as I've never been a member of the Boba Fett cult. A rumoured Kenobi film would be well received by many fans, particularly depending on where they decide to go with Rey's lineage.
I would have loved the prequels to have focused on the Mandalorians as the main bad guys, instead of the infernal Trade Federation <spits> |
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The problem with Boba Fett is that Lucas screwed up the character by making him a Maori clone of Temuera Morrison, and removing all the mystique that made the guy cool in the first place. They even changed his sinister voice in TESB, which was criminal in my opinion.
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[I would have loved the prequels to have focused on the Mandalorians as the main bad guys, instead of the infernal Trade Federation <spits>
The Clone Wars did some brilliant stuff with the Mandalorians. Some people are calling Rogue One dark. The whole Mandalorian arc was darker. It also touched on a previous love interest for Kenobi which theoretically could be taken forward to the films.
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It might change, but at this point anticipation for the Han Solo film seems lukewarm. The Boba Fett film hasn't been taken off the table, but hasn't been confirmed either - which wouldn't bother me either way as I've never been a member of the Boba Fett cult. A rumoured Kenobi film would be well received by many fans, particularly depending on where they decide to go with Rey's lineage.
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That was never a big hit for me because I never really considered him that cool to start with.
The one thing I would like to see is not a film, but a big budget TV series set in the SWU. Something like Space Precinct (but better, obvs). |
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I think he started off quite cool in bits of ETB, but in ROTJ, he came across as a bit of an incompetent bounty hunter.
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It might change, but at this point anticipation for the Han Solo film seems lukewarm.
They should forget the past and create new characters. the problem I feel is happening a bit is the attempt the recreate past magic which just comes across a bit weird, especially the CGI stuff. At least with Force Awakens there are new characters so I am pretty hopeful on where that is going, phasing out the old and bringing in some new blood. |
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The actor is just the start. He'll have to face a wall of scepticism, and he could do a brilliant job but it would still draw criticism.
There's also the issue of films like Guardians of the Galaxy and Serenity (& Firefly). Both are space adventures with lead loveable scounderls. And to be fair, in terms of being crowd pleasers, those films have set the bar quite high. So we'all have the odd situation where the original loveable space scoundrel (being played by someone new) is now playing catch up to very popular Han Solo-esque characters. |
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The actor is just the start. He'll have to face a wall of scepticism, and he could do a brilliant job but it would still draw criticism.
There's also the issue of films like Guardians of the Galaxy and Serenity (& Firefly). Both are space adventures with lead loveable scounderls. And to be fair, in terms of being crowd pleasers, those films have set the bar quite high. So we'all have the odd situation where the original loveable space scoundrel (being played by someone new) is now playing catch up to very popular Han Solo-esque characters. |
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see no reason why, they could not make a film, about the bothan spies, who stole plans for the 2nd death star and mix it, up a bit
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Whilst it can't be taken as canon anymore, one of the books (not sure if it was Tales of the Bounty Hunters or Tales from Jabba's Palace) had a Bobba Fett story which had him escape the Sarlac soon after Luke, Han etc... got away. So he might not necessarily be dead....
Another idea is that Bobba Fett in the films is not necessarily Jango's son. The armour and name are passed from one bounty hunter to another is a kind of 'Dredd Pirate Roberts' way. Anyone could be wearing the armour and be recognisable as Bobba Fett. It could be Han Solo's long lost brother in ESB (now that would be a typically Lucas kind of plot). Anyway, after the Han Solo film (Woody Harrelson, really?) I suspect they'll go with a Kenobi stand-alone with McGregor. |
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Another idea is that Bobba Fett in the films is not necessarily Jango's son. The armour and name are passed from one bounty hunter to another is a kind of 'Dredd Pirate Roberts' way. Anyone could be wearing the armour and be recognisable as Bobba Fett. It could be Han Solo's long lost brother in ESB (now that would be a typically Lucas kind of plot).
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There's been some speculation and rumours regarding a Yoda film, about his early adventures.
There's no reason for them to remain so saga-centric (only making films based on characters and events from the main saga). They could explore the beginnings of the Republic or the conflict between ancient Jedi and Sith. |
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