Originally Posted by LHolmes:
“Phil's line about coffins turning Sharon on was sick.
Shows the level of respect he has for her.”
“Phil's line about coffins turning Sharon on was sick.
Shows the level of respect he has for her.”
I thought this too
"Emergency "Eastenders episode thread 20.4.2015
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Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“Keyser probably exploded at that”
“Keyser probably exploded at that”
Ooh I missed that line. Shazz's extensions will throttle Phil in his sleep.
Originally Posted by Hankshaw:
“Ian would never think Linda was lying about being raped. Never.”
“Ian would never think Linda was lying about being raped. Never.”
No which pretty shitty considering he own mother was a victim of rape twice.
Originally Posted by Harlowe:
“No which pretty shitty considering he own mother was a victim of rape twice.”
“No which pretty shitty considering he own mother was a victim of rape twice.”
Very very good point. Bad dialogue.
I don't find Ian's reaction entirely unbelievable. He has only known Linda a little over a year and they haven't always gotten on in that time. That's not to suggest he doesn't believe her out of spite; just that they are not close enough for him to intrinsically know whether she's telling the truth or not.
Kathy's rape didn't stop Ian referring to Whitney as a "walking STD" or from buying the premises where it took place. I don't see why being related to a rape victim means he has to believe every rape claim that he hears. In Kathy's case she reported it straight away and there was physical evidence that sexual contact had taken place, torn clothes and bruising on her body backed up her claim that it was non-consensual.
Remember Ian is an outsider, and with the CPS's decision not to prosecute Dean, a rape never having taken place is a believable conclusion for someone to reach. Linda destroyed the evidence and waited ages to report it.
This is now entirely a case of one person's word vs. another's.
Kathy's rape didn't stop Ian referring to Whitney as a "walking STD" or from buying the premises where it took place. I don't see why being related to a rape victim means he has to believe every rape claim that he hears. In Kathy's case she reported it straight away and there was physical evidence that sexual contact had taken place, torn clothes and bruising on her body backed up her claim that it was non-consensual.
Remember Ian is an outsider, and with the CPS's decision not to prosecute Dean, a rape never having taken place is a believable conclusion for someone to reach. Linda destroyed the evidence and waited ages to report it.
This is now entirely a case of one person's word vs. another's.
Originally Posted by Harlowe:
“No which pretty shitty considering he own mother was a victim of rape twice.”
“No which pretty shitty considering he own mother was a victim of rape twice.”
I don't know. Victims of rape (or family of) might be more scornful of people they believe are making false accusations - a "if you knew how awful it really is you wouldn't do it" mentality.
That said, i think Ian would be more along the lines of not commenting as they don't know all the facts. Although, he has a low opinion of women and their cheating doesn't he, he's more inclined to believe they would than wouldn't.
Originally Posted by LHolmes:
“I don't find Ian's reaction entirely unbelievable. He has only known Linda a little over a year and they haven't always gotten on in that time. That's not to suggest he doesn't believe her out of spite; just that they are not close enough for him to intrinsically know whether she's telling the truth or not.
Kathy's rape didn't stop Ian referring to Whitney as a "walking STD" or from buying the premises where it took place. I don't see why being related to a rape victim means he has to believe every rape claim that he hears. In Kathy's case she reported it straight away and there was physical evidence that sexual contact had taken place, torn clothes and bruising on her body backed up her claim that it was non-consensual.
Remember Ian is an outsider, and with the CPS's decision not to prosecute Dean, a rape never having taken place is a believable conclusion for someone to reach. Linda destroyed the evidence and waited ages to report it.
This is now entirely a case of one person's word vs. another's.”
“I don't find Ian's reaction entirely unbelievable. He has only known Linda a little over a year and they haven't always gotten on in that time. That's not to suggest he doesn't believe her out of spite; just that they are not close enough for him to intrinsically know whether she's telling the truth or not.
Kathy's rape didn't stop Ian referring to Whitney as a "walking STD" or from buying the premises where it took place. I don't see why being related to a rape victim means he has to believe every rape claim that he hears. In Kathy's case she reported it straight away and there was physical evidence that sexual contact had taken place, torn clothes and bruising on her body backed up her claim that it was non-consensual.
Remember Ian is an outsider, and with the CPS's decision not to prosecute Dean, a rape never having taken place is a believable conclusion for someone to reach. Linda destroyed the evidence and waited ages to report it.
This is now entirely a case of one person's word vs. another's.”
I agree.
That is what i was trying to say in my last post.
Discretion would be the better part of valour here but it isn't unrealistic for somebody that isn't that close to it to assume that the Police and CPS have been thorough and no charges being brought indicated it didn't happen.
False accusations are made and as you've pointed out, it is different to Ian's experience with rape as Kathy did all the 'right' things - keeping the clothes, reporting it straight away and Linda did all the 'wrong' things which does make the claim that it was consensual and she has cried rape after the fact when she thought it would come out another way plausible.
We, the audience saw it happen and saw how destroyed Linda was afterwards. Ian and others like him, didn't.
didn't realise how hated Jim was amongst his family he was always portrayed as a kind old man type character
Originally Posted by Hildaonpluto:
“http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05s7cjx
Sorry if this treads on anyone's toes but I couldn't find it anywhere
Written by Daran Little so should be good”
“http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05s7cjx
Sorry if this treads on anyone's toes but I couldn't find it anywhere
Written by Daran Little so should be good”
35 minutes before is not an emergency.
Originally Posted by JR_THELEGEND:
“Nobody gives a shit about Cora. Don't blame them.”
“Nobody gives a shit about Cora. Don't blame them.”
Cora is cross she's not a Carter
Originally Posted by shrinkingviolet:
“Cora's back to being awful.”
“Cora's back to being awful.”
She has always been awful
Quote:
“Good Carol & Shirley scene completely ruined by Shirley being a vile, cruel spiteful cow to Linda.”
“Good Carol & Shirley scene completely ruined by Shirley being a vile, cruel spiteful cow to Linda.”
Shirley has always been awful as well
Originally Posted by IJoinedInMay:
“I wonder if Nancy's idea of lingerie is a sports bra and spanx? Lucky Tamwar (!)”
“I wonder if Nancy's idea of lingerie is a sports bra and spanx? Lucky Tamwar (!)”
Nancy is a very stupid young woman.
Originally Posted by Hildaonpluto:
“
On another note Dots martyrdom is grating.”
“
On another note Dots martyrdom is grating.”
Hav to agree
Originally Posted by Tanequil:
“I'm still not sure why Dot is in prison.
A well known drug addict and wanted criminal overdosed and she is locked up.
The only reason she is inside is because she said she was responsible as if they would believe the dotty old bat.”
“I'm still not sure why Dot is in prison.
A well known drug addict and wanted criminal overdosed and she is locked up.
The only reason she is inside is because she said she was responsible as if they would believe the dotty old bat.”
Post of the thread
Originally Posted by Tanequil:
“Is Lee still in the army he hasn't left the square for over a year.”
“Is Lee still in the army he hasn't left the square for over a year.”
It's safer in Albert Square
Originally Posted by shrinkingviolet:
“Cora, you hag - go away with your selfish guilt-trips. Darth Abbie telling it like is.”
“Cora, you hag - go away with your selfish guilt-trips. Darth Abbie telling it like is.”
Well done Abigail.
Originally Posted by SMIDSYmk2:
“Jane and Bobby did go to Lucy's funeral”
“Jane and Bobby did go to Lucy's funeral”
to make sure she was dead
Originally Posted by LHolmes:
“Phil is vile.”
“Phil is vile.”
He's Philth
Originally Posted by SecretLifeoBees:
“Am I the only one who can't muster any sympathy for Cora regardless of the circumstances?”
“Am I the only one who can't muster any sympathy for Cora regardless of the circumstances?”
No
Originally Posted by Keyser_Soze1:
“The Philth - why do people even invite the heartless scumbag to funerals?
Why?”
“The Philth - why do people even invite the heartless scumbag to funerals?
Why?”
He owns all of Walford apart from The Arches.
Originally Posted by Yoshi Fan:
“Fantastic scene between Cora and Dot.”
“Fantastic scene between Cora and Dot.”
It was nought special.
Originally Posted by Hankshaw:
“Ian would never think Linda was lying about being raped. Never.”
“Ian would never think Linda was lying about being raped. Never.”
See below
Originally Posted by LHolmes:
“I don't find Ian's reaction entirely unbelievable. He has only known Linda a little over a year and they haven't always gotten on in that time. That's not to suggest he doesn't believe her out of spite; just that they are not close enough for him to intrinsically know whether she's telling the truth or not.”
“I don't find Ian's reaction entirely unbelievable. He has only known Linda a little over a year and they haven't always gotten on in that time. That's not to suggest he doesn't believe her out of spite; just that they are not close enough for him to intrinsically know whether she's telling the truth or not.”
Originally Posted by 0...0:
“Ooh I missed that line. Shazz's extensions will throttle Phil in his sleep.”
“Ooh I missed that line. Shazz's extensions will throttle Phil in his sleep.
”
The scumbag has no redeeming features whatsoever - the fact he regards the funerals as such a joke shows that he does not give a toss about anybody but himself.
As for Sharon - I knew getting involved with him would totally destroy her.
And it has.
Ewww, TMI Babe! Necrophilic much... 
Well done Abi for standing up to Cora. Nice to see Nice Abi again too.
This prison is sure lax on the number of visitors one can get in a day!
'It's my job to upset my family, not yours.' Meow, Cora!
Cora marked Dot's Matyr Card, though.
Interesting how Cora failed to mention Dexter in her list of loved family members.
Great last convo between the two 'frenemies', though.
Dean...
Well done Abi for standing up to Cora. Nice to see Nice Abi again too.
This prison is sure lax on the number of visitors one can get in a day!
'It's my job to upset my family, not yours.' Meow, Cora!
Cora marked Dot's Matyr Card, though.
Interesting how Cora failed to mention Dexter in her list of loved family members.
Great last convo between the two 'frenemies', though.
Dean...
Originally Posted by Mattehhhftw:
“Worried I forgot... but I'm the 27th
”
“Worried I forgot... but I'm the 27th
”
I think it's probably best that we don't try to solve the mystery publicly over who it was that forgot! 😁
Stan was a great character, played by the fantastic Tim West, but I'm a bit annoyed that they're shoehorning two funerals in together, rather than giving Jim the attention he deserved
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