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Old 24-04-2015, 15:43
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could he do it although its a big finish story?

id love to see the Toymaker make a return to play with the Doctor i think hes a villian who would go down excellently with kids
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Old 24-04-2015, 15:58
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I suppose they could, though I think they'd ask Big Finish first. (They've already adapted Human Nature from the book, and Dalek shared some similarities with Jubilee.)
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Old 24-04-2015, 16:57
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I'm sure it could be done.
Question is, why would they bother?
It's not a very good story and doesn't fit at all with the style of the show these days.
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Old 24-04-2015, 17:02
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I think they had an opportunity with Hedgewick's World in Series 7. The closed down space amusement park, taken over by Cybermen. Shame the setting was just background dressing really.
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Old 24-04-2015, 22:33
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Originally Posted by jxbrenna
could he do it although its a big finish story?

id love to see the Toymaker make a return to play with the Doctor i think hes a villian who would go down excellently with kids
His costume might need updating.
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Old 24-04-2015, 22:38
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I'm sure it could be done.
Question is, why would they bother?
It's not a very good story and doesn't fit at all with the style of the show these days.

Yeah, I don't recall the novelizations of the "lost" stories being well regarded.
Who needs the Nightmare Fair? Now if they could presuade Christopher
Priest to write a new DW script, that'd be good (assuming his bad experiences
with Saward and JNT haven't put him off for the idea for ever).
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Old 26-04-2015, 01:05
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Now if they could presuade Christopher
Priest to write a new DW script, that'd be good (assuming his bad experiences
with Saward and JNT haven't put him off for the idea for ever).
Fat chance of that. The new series haven't used any writers from the original series have they? It was a definite case of new broom.
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Old 26-04-2015, 19:11
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Fat chance of that. The new series haven't used any writers from the original series have they? It was a definite case of new broom.

I'm not sure if any of the Classic series writers are still working in TV (Uncle Terrance
has long retired from the TV biz, and the only one I can think of still writing
TV stuff is Rona Munro).
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Old 28-04-2015, 14:04
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I suppose they could, though I think they'd ask Big Finish first.
They wouldn't need to, as it was originally a TV script and therefore Big Finish don't own the copyright. Even so, they're not going to use scripts written in 1985.
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Old 28-04-2015, 14:53
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They wouldn't need to, as it was originally a TV script and therefore Big Finish don't own the copyright. Even so, they're not going to use scripts written in 1985.
You're right, but both productions tend to respect one another and there's a friendly air between the two anyway. I've no doubt that, even though it was originally a TV script, that the current team would run it by Big Finish first, or at least let them know it was going to happen

I think it would be nice for some BF elements to appear in the TV series. Not necessarily whole stories, but maybe ideas or settings, etc.
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Old 28-04-2015, 20:51
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I think this story has so much association with the Sixth Doctor and Peri it should be left where it is, the Big Finish version is enough compensation for the lack of the real thing.

However, I do feel there is room in the New series for the Celestrial Toymaker, albeit a lot less childish than his original story. Though he was very sinister the other guest characters, aside from Cyril, weren't. I think with modern effects there's just a story there waiting to be told with him in New Who.

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Old 28-04-2015, 21:12
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I think this story has so much association with the Sixth Doctor and Peri it should be left where it is, the Big Finish version is enough compensation for the lack of the real thing.

However, I do feel there is room in the New series for the Celestrial Toymaker, albeit a lot less childish than his original story. Though he was very sinister the other guest characters, aside from Cyril, weren't. I think with modern effects there's just a story there waiting to be told with him in New Who.

Philip Sandifer, the DW blogger, did a long post way back about how the Celestial
Toymaker is an offensive caricature of an East Asian man.

I can sort of see where he's coming from (the Toymaker's Mandarin's robes and the name "Celestial", which is an offensive Victorianism for Chinese people) but on the other hand, Michael Gough wasn't put in "yellowface" for the role.

And most DW fans think of the Toymaker as "a white guy dressed as an Asian",
not an Asian character. I don't think the Toymaker is a racist stereotype.
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