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Mick and Linda seriously suck.
I really wish they would just **** off tbh.
Give proper old school characters like Phil, Ian, Dot, Kat, Stacey and Sharon a storyline. That's all I have to say... |
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You're entitled to your opinion but just make sure you're not getting Linda confused with some of the other Carter problems that we've had recently. If you take away all of the other Carters, Linda still stands pretty strong on her own.
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Aaron, my old mucker, didn't know you hated the Carters
.We have a lot in common then .
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I like them both.
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I never warmed to Linda, from the very beginning. And I much preferred Mick before the rape reveal. I dislike that they are written as 'perfect', as said before even their flaws are the perfect flaws and they are at the front of every EastEnders promo. I just find them dull and one dimensional without much of an identity, DTC wants people to love them as much as he does so they never do anything remotely controversial. Give me Babe, Shirley and Sylvie anyday. (But that is just my opinion, I am aware there are others who do like them).
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They are a very boring couple. All they ever do is moan and cry (Fair enough they've been through a lot, but come on!). Then again, when they are happy, it's cringe and OTT. Mick delivers some next cheesy speech that makes me cringe.
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They are a very boring couple. All they ever do is moan and cry (Fair enough they've been through a lot, but come on!). Then again, when they are happy, it's cringe and OTT. Mick delivers some next cheesy speech that makes me cringe.
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The fact that class characters like Kat and Alfie are getting the axe while Mick and Linda are staying just goes to show you what a joke of a show EastEnders has become under DTC.
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Let me give you a short summary of Linda's rape storyline, which sums up her character at the moment:
Linda: You raped me, Dean. Just admit it! Dean: Uh, no, I didn't. Linda: Yes, you did rape me! Dean: Uh, no, I didn't. Linda: Yes, you did rape me! Dean: Uh, no, I didn't. Linda: Yes, you did rape me! Dean: Uh, no, I didn't. Linda: Yes, you did rape me! Dean: Uh, no, I didn't. Linda: Okay, this is just boring now. |
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I don't think getting their own six-part spin-off prime time BBC One drama with the option return classes as an 'axe'.
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They have been axed from Eastenders.
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I never warmed to Linda, from the very beginning. And I much preferred Mick before the rape reveal.
The rape storyline has ruined her. She's constantly written in a negative way. I've seen them try to make some changes with this lately. But no, now Mick has taken over the constantly miserable role. The family have been through a lot, fair enough, but if that means the audience have had to sit through seven months of endless Carter soon & gloom, only to be told that we're in the MIDDLE of the plot . It really wasn't worth it in the end. Now we can predict the spoilers, 6 months away.A random week in October: Monday - The Carters throw a party to cheer up Linda, but things take a turn for the worse, when Buster, Shirley & Dean tag along. Tuesday - Mick tells Dean, Buster & Shirley to leave and that their barred and throws a tantrum, followed by Lee pulling an angry facial expression, making a comment about Dean. Thursday - Lee & Nancy speculate what's wrong with Linda over the breakfast table, whilst Aunt Babe tries to bring Shirley & Mick closer together and Tina runs off to Sonia. Friday - Dean dies. The end. The rape plot has well and truly ruined a family and a couple, that had so much potential. |
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Let me give you a short summary of Linda's rape storyline, which sums up her character at the moment:
Linda: You raped me, Dean. Just admit it! Dean: Uh, no, I didn't. Linda: Yes, you did rape me! Dean: Uh, no, I didn't. Linda: Yes, you did rape me! Dean: Uh, no, I didn't. Linda: Yes, you did rape me! Dean: Uh, no, I didn't. Linda: Yes, you did rape me! Dean: Uh, no, I didn't. Linda: Okay, this is just boring now. |
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The fact that class characters like Kat and Alfie are getting the axe while Mick and Linda are staying just goes to show you what a joke of a show EastEnders has become under DTC.
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I liked Linda at the start (Minus the way she treated Johnny at times).
The rape storyline has ruined her. She's constantly written in a negative way. I've seen them try to make some changes with this lately. But no, now Mick has taken over the constantly miserable role. The family have been through a lot, fair enough, but if that means the audience have had to sit through seven months of endless Carter soon & gloom, only to be told that we're in the MIDDLE of the plot . It really wasn't worth it in the end. Now we can predict the spoilers, 6 months away.A random week in October: Monday - The Carters throw a party to cheer up Linda, but things take a turn for the worse, when Buster, Shirley & Dean tag along. Tuesday - Mick tells Dean, Buster & Shirley to leave and that their barred and throws a tantrum, followed by Lee pulling an angry facial expression, making a comment about Dean. Thursday - Lee & Nancy speculate what's wrong with Linda over the breakfast table, whilst Aunt Babe tries to bring Shirley & Mick closer together and Tina runs off to Sonia. Friday - Dean dies. The end. The rape plot has well and truly ruined a family and a couple, that had so much potential. Hell, even the family as a whole have had their great, powerful moments over the last few months - some of the lead up scenes to Stan's death being the prime example. In fact, the rape storyline itself was great up until January. It was once Mick started threatening Dean in allotments and Shirley started taking sides that it all went down hill. Just because Linda suffered a lot of pain for a few months doesn't mean that the quality was bad. Amongst all of this Mick/Shirley/Dean/Buster mess, Linda has never actually put a foot wrong as a character and I think it would be a shame to confuse those two very separate things. |
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Linda has not been constantly miserable throughout all that time though. Her scenes with Sharon are always tinged with fun and humour. It seems unfortunate to deplore a character completely based on one element of her characterisation.
Hell, even the family as a whole have had their great, powerful moments over the last few months - some of the lead up scenes to Stan's death being the prime example. In fact, the rape storyline itself was great up until January. It was once Mick started threatening Dean in allotments and Shirley started taking sides that it all went down hill. Just because Linda suffered a lot of pain for a few months doesn't mean that the quality was bad. Amongst all of this Mick/Shirley/Dean/Buster mess, Linda has never actually put a foot wrong as a character and I think it would be a shame to confuse those two very separate things. |
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I'll admit she's had her positive moments, but she's been a bit too miserable for the Queen Vic landlady, for my liking. We don't even see her serving drinks to other characters, and if we do it's a rarity. The whole rape lot has ruined all of the Carters, not just Linda, but I find her and Mick seriously boring. I only really like Linda when she's with Sharon anyway.
The conclusion to the rape plot may not be as soon as we would like, but I don't think it has to signal a 'ruination' for the family forever. Not at all. |
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Just to put it out there, Kat and Alfie have NOT been axed from EastEnders.
Unless someone has a link to a statement stating otherwise, that is the current situation. |
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Bit do you not agree that because the foundations that were laid for the Carters in the early months was so flawlessly and exceptionally done, that there can't be a time where they can return to that. It's not in my nature to believe that good characters played by good actors can't return to their former glory.
The conclusion to the rape plot may not be as soon as we would like, but I don't think it has to signal a 'ruination' for the family forever. Not at all. Sooner, rather than later. Or, better still put the Mitchell's back in there or something. Not once did I find Peggy/Phil/Ronnie/Roxy boring in The Vic. Their storylines 2007-2010 were a joy to watch, and The Vic didn't half have atmosphere. Ronnie would make a great landlady😌. |
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I assume the Kat and Alfie spin off will be a way of wrapping up their story.
I believe this spin off won't be shown till early next year so clearly when they go that's it's and this will just be way of finding out what happened to them |
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Where is there confirmation of this? They official announcement was that they would be going on a break to star in their own six part drama. More than that, none of us know.
DTC has made it clear he needs to free up money to pay for the "names" he wants to bring onto the show such as Denise Van Outen and Bonnie Langford. Jessie Wallace and Shane Richie were both on big wages, now that money can go to where DTC wants it to go. It has been clear to many for a long time how horribly both Kat and Alfie have been written under DTC. Many have long been saying it's clear he doesn't rate either. There's a reason nobody seems shocked they're leaving. What does this all add up to? It is not in anybody's interest to use the word "axed" not Eastenders' not DTC's not Jessie Wallace's and not Shane Richie's. So instead the situation is being dressed up in blatant PR speak, we'll never hear confirmation they were axed for obvious reasons, nobody involved would want that negative publicity, it doesn't mean it isn't the case. I will be incredibly surprised if either actor ever returns under DTC or his likely successor Alex Lamb. |
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Isn't it obvious they've been axed? Both actors have spoken fairly recently about wanting to stay on the show long term and Jessie Wallace spoke about wanting to explore more sides of Kat. Suddenly they're both leaving.
DTC has made it clear he needs to free up money to pay for the "names" he wants to bring onto the show such as Denise Van Outen and Bonnie Langford. Jessie Wallace and Shane Richie were both on big wages, now that money can go to where DTC wants it to go. It has been clear to many for a long time how horribly both Kat and Alfie have been written under DTC. Many have long been saying it's clear he doesn't rate either. There's a reason nobody seems shocked they're leaving. What does this all add up to? It is not in anybody's interest to use the word "axed" not Eastenders' not DTC's not Jessie Wallace's and not Shane Richie's. So instead the situation is being dressed up in blatant PR speak, we'll never hear confirmation they were axed for obvious reasons, nobody involved would want that negative publicity, it doesn't mean it isn't the case. I will be incredibly surprised if either actor ever returns under DTC or his likely successor Alex Lamb. They haven't been axed. There's nothing confirmed that suggests this. |
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So by pumping large sums of money into a brand new drama series saves money? A drama series that both Shane and Jessie seem to be frothing at the mouth to get started on?
They haven't been axed. There's nothing confirmed that suggests this. Of course it won't be confirmed. It will bring negative publicity to Eastenders. Shane and Jessie would never be stupid enough to go off on a bitter rant about it either. |
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Yes it does save money for Eastenders. The money allocated to the spin-off will come from a completely different department of the BBC.
Of course it won't be confirmed. It will bring negative publicity to Eastenders. Shane and Jessie would never be stupid enough to go off on a bitter rant about it either. |
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But the drama will be produced and written by EastEnders writers, producers and storyliners. All of whom have to now split their time between the two productions.
According to somebody else here Shane Richie and Jessie Wallace have already finished filming on Eastenders and are no longer contracted to the show, but apparently don't start filming the spin-off for another six months, just more indication DTC wanted them off the wage bill as soon as possible. |
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