with alfie and kats connection to the vic, if they win the lottery, you would think they could buy shirleys half, mick and linda, could start afresh, with alfie leaving mick as bar manager, and let him stay at the pub, doing exactly the same as he is now.

alfie and mick are mates, if you wete mick and knew your mate won the lottery, wouldnt you at least have a chat to see if they cou;d help

Ha ha i'm not sure if karma in this world is entirely fair

Alfie won money on poker and spent it on awful clothes to sell on a market stall opposite his wife's clothes store, competing and arguing with her for sales even though it all went in the same pot. When that went down the drain he then bought some 1970s christmas decorations to sell in the month of January. After that failure he then bought some sugar pills declaring to his wife that the sales of them would help them towards their future. After that he lost his stall through telling a Latvian man to go back to where he came from, then tried to beg for his stall back and failed, declaring that he had tried everything and had no other options. He then tried to charm his way into a loan and failed, lying to his wife that he had succeeded and everything was ok. He managed to get a small job for the afternoon at a local BBQ, during which he heard an off duty fire fighter talk about a 'scumbag' who had burnt his house down for money. Despite everyone in the near vicinity of the conversation reacting in disgust, this made a lightbulb go off in Alfie's head that it was something he could do. The only thing left since he couldn't get a stall. So he went to his house, lit a fag and set it on fire. But he didn't check where his wife was, she was inside and got burnt badly. Whilst she was in hospital, he stayed at a friends house with his three kids and when they were crying and making a mess of the place, he angrily reacted to complaints from the people who were kindly letting him stay at their house, telling them to sort it out. He turned the place into a pig sty and acted like he deserved to do so. When his wife's cousin found out he burnt it down, he forced her to keep the secret and stay away from them both, making his wife think that she didn't like her anymore because of her burns. When his wife came out of hospital with bad burns on her face, he squatted in numerous places and got kicked out. He then tried everything to get a new home, which consisted of looking in the minute mart window for adverts then looking sad. After their last chance had gone, he took his family to the council to beg for a house. He insisted that they needed to be at the top of the waiting list and to be allocated a house that night. When told this was not possible, he tried to beg and plead, delivering a ridiculous sob story about his family that was no different to any of the other families on the waiting list who needed a new place equally as much as him, but hadn't burnt their own house down. When asked for ID, he declared it got burnt in the fire then tried to prove who he was by showing them the gold belt on his trousers, which said "Alfie" on it, and saying "I'm Alfie Moon, this is me" then crying.

His wife then found out the truth and kicked him out, sending her into a downward spiral which over time lead to her attempted suicide.

And then he wins the lottery.

but none of this is really alfies fault, it was the shows writers, eastenders isnt real

Very true. This applies to so many characters right now! What are the writers doing?

Kat and Alfie win the lottery.
Have their spin off show.
Return to Albert Square having lost it all.

This is how I see it playing out. Boring stuff, but it's Eastenders. Totally predictable all the time.

Hopefully it's Buster and Shirley. They can chuck Mick and Linda out of the Vic and send them back to Watford.

And then Shirley and Buster can hire Denise and Kim to run the bar!

Or Chrissie and Jake can return and run the Vic - I loved them in there.

hasnt this storyline been planned since dtc took over.

cause i remember him saying, alfie would loose everything, he lost the pub, then would hit rock bottom, the fire at the slaters, and them he would rise again, possible lottery win.

And whether there was somebody in the house or not, it was still arson and that is still a crime. His intention in setting the fire was an insurance scam which is also a crime. So however "heroic" his actions in the aftermath, he is a criminal and should not be getting any sort of reward.

Couldn't have put it better myself. The man is scum.

If Kat and Alfie actually win the lottery money then would be so bone stupid.

I do like DD so I'm a bit biased there although Mick has been annoying for the past few months. Your right about the celebrity castings he needs to be careful it's getting a bit much now, it seems to be the latest thing to do in soaps ☹

People like you makes me sick, you can not judge How good or bad or say who's gonna want to watch that without watching it to make a full opinion of it, for your information Kat and Alfie have plenty of fans to carry the show and viewers of the show will watch it out of being curious and I for one will watch it. Like most normal people watch it then judge it.

Hkw would it be "bone stupid" I guess you don't like to see something happy for once, your probably the kind of person who moans about all the money trouble they have and still moan when they have money. Winning money is very realistic and if you don't think it is then perhaps you've been living a very sheltered life.

Fair enough. He has been pretty annoying - I did like Mick before Christmas and was willing to overlook some of DD's weaknesses as an actor but this year he has been written really badly for the majority - as have many other characters too.

It does! The idea of Sarah Harding joining Corrie makes me glad that I don't watch it. I think it's like breaking the third wall, well it is for me anyway. 'Karin Smart' for example could have been a decent character had it not been for DVO. And I feel Maria Friedman is too theatrical for soap - it's a shame but DTC seems so obsessed with getting big names that I think there will be lots of changes to accommodate the famous faces within the BBC budgets.

Alfie is a guy who does things not to hurt Kat but coz he honestly thinks he's helping but makes all the mistakes a person can ever make, he's not scum he just don't think logically and if he does win lottery then that's life and probably more realistic for him to win coz good things happen more to those who don't deserve it but Kat does deserve it.

Why are you getting so personal? Failure to construct your opinion without insulting someone shows weak intellect. Grow up.

To have Kat and Alfie winning a million pounds to fix all of their troubles is contrived lazy storytelling.

he will be letting long term characters go, but replace them with famoius faces, famous faces who are only ever gonna want to be guest characters, if dtc isnt careful, he will fall flat on his face

Hahahaha wouldn't go that far but thanks I try

Why do I get the horrible feeling that you are bang on?! It does seem that way and it will destroy the show. If I want to watch 'celebs' - I'll watch TOWIE or similar - but I don't - I want to watch EastEnders. I think DTC has got too cocky, the success of last year as gone to his head a bit and the show, although better than it was, just seems a bit flat. Add to that, he is ruining all my favourite characters! Not impressed. The show is better than it was in 2013 though - I will give him that.

BBC1 in a prime time slot, so say what you will about the circumstancesances around them leaving there is still a belief somewhere that if the effort is put into them they are strong enough characters to pull this off. There is no way on earth a spin-off starring DTC's favourite Shirley would ever get commissioned even if DTC is determined to nake EE about her.

Is it the school holidays or something? I swear I'm going to have more people on Ignore than not soon.

She is a vile person in the whole. She burned a lot of money, so why would they reward her with a big lottery win.

Will be nice of a Upbeat storyline tbh

She burnt it for good reasons, considering where the money came from, in her eyes it was tainted, maybe others could see past where the money came from but it's still to raw for Kat and she did what she felt was best.