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Old 28-04-2015, 20:10
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Seeing as how Karin Smart is a fake name I'm really curious on who she really is. Could she be Sam Mitchell? Lola's mother? It's suspicious how she knows Peggy and how she said she remembers when Sharon first married into the family.
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Old 28-04-2015, 20:11
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Yes, and Max conveniently forgot what she looked like.

I think she's Jenny Smith.
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Old 28-04-2015, 20:14
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Seeing as how Karin Smart is a fake name I'm really curious on who she really is. Could she be Sam Mitchell? Lola's mother? It's suspicious how she knows Peggy and how she said she remembers when Sharon first married into the family.
She is definitely not Sam Mitchell? Sharon would know what Sam looked like.
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Old 28-04-2015, 20:16
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I don't like her so far. She's boring and too plot devicey.
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Old 28-04-2015, 20:17
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Old 28-04-2015, 20:18
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She is definitely not Sam Mitchell? Sharon would know what Sam looked like.
As would,Carol and Max. If she was just a friend of Sams i don't know why she would have to keep her name a secret (to the audience). Perhaps she is some long lost Mitchell relative. Did Clive have a daughter? Although Phil pimping out his own cousin is a bit yucky
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Old 28-04-2015, 20:20
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As would,Carol and Max. If she was just a friend of Sams i don't know why she would have to keep her name a secret (to the audience). Perhaps she is some long lost Mitchell relative. Did Clive have a daughter? Although Phil pimping out his own cousin is a bit yucky
Maybe she's the transgender character and use to be one of Clive's sons.
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Old 28-04-2015, 20:24
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She's going to be back isn't she.
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Old 28-04-2015, 20:28
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It was odd that they had her say 'you don't even know my real name' to Max. She could have simply been an old friend of Sam who knew the Mitchells who Phil roped into this scam and still been called Karin Smart. However keeping her real name secret and making a point of this does imply she is someone very relevant. I'm intrigued.
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Old 28-04-2015, 20:33
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It was odd that they had her say 'you don't even know my real name' to Max. She could have simply been an old friend of Sam who knew the Mitchells who Phil roped into this scam and still been called Karin Smart. However keeping her real name secret and making a point of this does imply she is someone very relevant. I'm intrigued.
She didn't say it in a mysterious way. She said it because he thought they had something special going on. You can't have something special with someone you barely know. It was just her way of saying "we hardly know each other."
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Old 28-04-2015, 20:36
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Exactly
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Old 28-04-2015, 20:43
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Literally the first thing that came into my head when she said "you don't know my real name".
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Old 28-04-2015, 20:48
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She is definitely not Sam Mitchell? Sharon would know what Sam looked like.
Didn't she say she was a friend of Phils little sister I.e a friend of Sam's?
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Old 28-04-2015, 20:50
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As would,Carol and Max. If she was just a friend of Sams i don't know why she would have to keep her name a secret (to the audience). Perhaps she is some long lost Mitchell relative. Did Clive have a daughter? Although Phil pimping out his own cousin is a bit yucky
I think the sleeping with Max was not at the instruction of Phil. Sounded like the character did it for her own pleasure.
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Old 28-04-2015, 20:52
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Didn't she say she was a friend of Phils little sister I.e a friend of Sam's?
Yes she did say that. I was just replying to the OP who said could she be Sam Mitchell.
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Old 28-04-2015, 22:02
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So is Sam Mitchell meant to be about 40 now
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Old 28-04-2015, 22:27
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Seeing as how Karin Smart is a fake name I'm really curious on who she really is. Could she be Sam Mitchell? Lola's mother? It's suspicious how she knows Peggy and how she said she remembers when Sharon first married into the family.
She stated that she went to school with Sam. That is how she knows Peggy, Grant and Phil and was aware of Grant marrying back in 91.

I imagine Karin is her real name, just her surname is an alias.

She is not Sam.
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Old 28-04-2015, 22:32
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So is Sam Mitchell meant to be about 40 now
Certainly late thirties along with Bianca and Ricky.
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Old 28-04-2015, 22:37
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As would,Carol and Max. If she was just a friend of Sams i don't know why she would have to keep her name a secret (to the audience). Perhaps she is some long lost Mitchell relative. Did Clive have a daughter? Although Phil pimping out his own cousin is a bit yucky
But she hasn't kept her name secret from the audience has she? It would make sense for somebody involved in a scam to use an alias and how exactly would they work her real name into a scene? Phil says "so you used Karin Smart did you, okay Agnes Allbright, on your way with your money now".

I don'r see wjy Sam isn't the initial connection, she could have done all sorts re criminal activity off (or on) her own back in the 20 years since then or married one of Phil's dodgy mates.
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Old 28-04-2015, 22:41
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So is Sam Mitchell meant to be about 40 now
Sam was 15 or 16 when the Mitchell's arrived in 90. I have a memory of her and Ricky marrying as soon as she turned 16 in the Summer of 1990. So that would give her a 1974 birth date so she is 41 this year.

Ricky turned 30 before he left in the early 00s, i think he'd already turned 16 when he arrived in 88. Bianca is a few years younger. She was 16 when she joined in 94.

I think birth dates are
Ricky 1972
Sam 1974
Bianca 1977
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Old 28-04-2015, 22:43
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Didn't she say she was a friend of Phils little sister I.e a friend of Sam's?
Yes she did.

There was no reason for her to lie at that point. She seemed genuinely sorry that she'd hurt Max by being his 'move on girl' after Emma's death when she was conning him.
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Old 28-04-2015, 23:15
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She is not playing Lola's Mum. Lola will be gone soon.
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Old 29-04-2015, 01:34
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She didn't say it in a mysterious way. She said it because he thought they had something special going on. You can't have something special with someone you barely know. It was just her way of saying "we hardly know each other."
I thought she said it because Max was threatening that she'd pay for what she'd done, and she said you don't even know my real name to indicate he had no way of ever even finding her to take revenge.
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Old 29-04-2015, 02:04
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Also if Karin wasn't her real name why use the less common spelling, I feel her surname could be different and possibly Mitchell, although she wouldn't have made a point about knowing Sam she'd just have said she knows the family.
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Old 29-04-2015, 05:39
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I thought she said it because Max was threatening that she'd pay for what she'd done, and she said you don't even know my real name to indicate he had no way of ever even finding her to take revenge.
I thought that too.
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