Honour 6 Plus

DevonBloke · 06-05-2015, 23:17

Cellnet... er.. I mean EE actually do have enough 800 for what they need it for.
Ultimately it only has to extend beyond the reach of 1800 and once 1800 is fully rolled out that won't really be that many 800 handsets on any particular cell.

It has been stated by Celln.... EE that 800 will cover about an extra 1500 square miles across the whole of the UK which isn't a particularly massive amount compared to the total landmass.

Most users indoors will offload onto WiFi so 800 will help those in rural areas just out of reach of 1800. 5Mhz of 800 can handle 200 active handsets at full speed (maybe 10 - 15 Mbps). In most areas it will be most unlikely there will be anything like that many handsets active simultaneously in the 800 band.

My particular cell (or 120 degree sector) for example I doubt will ever have more than 50-100 active 800 handsets on it at once. LTE will instantly switch back to 1800 on the fly as soon as it's available again.
Remember it's simultaneous active handsets. A cell can have a lot more inactive ones.
A 10KB pushed email for example only makes that particular handset "active" for a few milliseconds. It then goes inactive again.

Because of EE's massive allocation of 1800/2600, 5Mhz of 800 is all they needed really.

Stereo Steve · 06-05-2015, 23:23

What would happen if EE launched a 1Mhz network. Presumably as soon as our phones rang, our spleens would come out of our ears in a liquid form and all local waterfowl would be significantly inconvenienced.

Stereo Steve · 06-05-2015, 23:25

I do have an EE sim in my phone by the way so anyone who can't see I am taking the P needs to give themselves a good talking to.

DevonBloke · 06-05-2015, 23:44

That would be excellent.
1Mhz would be better than Radio 4.
It would work in the pub and everything....
Only 4 people UK wide could use it at the same time though.....

Stereo Steve · 06-05-2015, 23:57

Have they cranked the 1800 in the South Hams? Took the kids swimming tonight and noted that the EE 3G was solid where 3 months ago it was unusable. 5 bars on VOD 900 2G of course. Blah. But I could use Twattage and Faceturd on EE3G where I couldn't before.

Aye Up · 07-05-2015, 00:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stereo Steve

Have they cranked the 1800 in the South Hams? Took the kids swimming tonight and noted that the EE 3G was solid where 3 months ago it was unusable. 5 bars on VOD 900 2G of course. Blah. But I could use Twattage and Faceturd on EE3G where I couldn't before.

Why are you being so antagonistic?

Each post in this thread from you, has you stirring the shit at every oppurtunity.

FFS grow up!

Stereo Steve · 07-05-2015, 00:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aye Up

Why are you being so antagonistic?

Each post in this thread from you, has you stirring the shit at every oppurtunity.

FFS grow up!

Antagonistic how? Please explain. I don't get you folk. What am I stirring? Are you sure you aren't just a little over sensitive? There is no way at my swimming sesh that I could have viewed any data on VOD as they have nothing but 2G here. It's pathetic. But, they do have damned good 2G which is probably why, much to many folk's frustration, they have not failed and still have a stable customer base. It's equally frustrating that they haven't done anything about 3G.

The post you picked on, I have stated that the EE signal in the place I was tonight seems to have improved to the point where I can get on the net. What's stirring about that?

This is the wierdest ****ing forum on the net. It's brilliant.

gardensleeper · 07-05-2015, 10:24

I hate to drag this thread back to topic (handbags down now guys....) - has anyone actually bought one yet, and is using it as their day to day phone?

I'd like to hear what daily users think of it. In particular, does the battery live up to the hype? I've read a lot of the reviews online, but they're generally one off reviews rather than daily use. I'm sorely tempted - I may try to get one in another store today.

DevonBloke · 07-05-2015, 10:41

Yes 3G getting much better now.
It's been mentioned before a few times.
Theory is the surrounding 4G is offloading traffic from 3G which then expands it's coverage.
Not sure how that's happening in Totnes.
The swimming pool is served most of the time by the MBNL monopole opposite the post office in Babbage road. The only 4G is coming from Marldon and possibly Buckfastleigh. These serve the top of town and out through to Redworth so it's possible quite a few handsets are coming off the industrial estate cell.

Oh, no, I haven't bought an Honour 6, sorry! : )

AxeVictim · 07-05-2015, 12:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by victor mel

Also the Asus Zenphone 2, Sony z2 (£299).

Another contender ?
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Monst...camera_id69015

alanwarwic · 07-05-2015, 12:32

Steve, its much an 'EE shop staff' slant.

Get used to it.

Stereo Steve · 07-05-2015, 14:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanwarwic

Steve, its much an 'EE shop staff' slant.

Get used to it.

Seems that way.

Stereo Steve · 07-05-2015, 14:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by DevonBloke

Yes 3G getting much better now.
It's been mentioned before a few times.
Theory is the surrounding 4G is offloading traffic from 3G which then expands it's coverage.
Not sure how that's happening in Totnes.
The swimming pool is served most of the time by the MBNL monopole opposite the post office in Babbage road. The only 4G is coming from Marldon and possibly Buckfastleigh. These serve the top of town and out through to Redworth so it's possible quite a few handsets are coming off the industrial estate cell.

Oh, no, I haven't bought an Honour 6, sorry! : )

Wasn't it Totnes. Edeswell up by Hatchlands so not 4G. Only other difference is a ZTE phone where I had a 4S before but I can't see it would be better at pulling in a signal. Dunno, maybe. Used to get ful O2/VOD and the odd bar of EE if you were very lucky but now it's solid 3-4 bars and in a metal shed as well. Maybe it's reflecting off a sheep.

Anyway, last off topic post.

Aye Up · 07-05-2015, 16:01

I nipped into a Three shop today to have a butchers, I have to say I am very impressed with the Honor 6+. It feels great in the hand, imo it feels better to use than the Note 4 I have. Software/OS was suitably swift, my only gripe is the launcher, I don't like how it copies of iOS, Nova Launcher sharp sorts that out. Granted the handset doesn't have a build quality matching other phones, for the price its a bargain.

clewsy · 07-05-2015, 19:04

That's what worries me as people are talking about the interface - is that the weakness of the phone?

d123 · 07-05-2015, 19:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by clewsy

That's what worries me as people are talking about the interface - is that the weakness of the phone?

A lot of Android users dislike iOS, the UI looks like iOS...

finbaar · 07-05-2015, 20:14

And its on 4.4 ffs.

lightspeed2398 · 07-05-2015, 20:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by finbaar

And its on 4.4 ffs.

Google really have to sort this out with updates. I mean there are still loads of devices running Jellybean that are vulnerable to all sorts of updates. This is a problem for which the solution involves both Google and the OEMs. To be fair on Google they have tried to slim Android down and make it accessible to devices with low specs but the OEMs insist on badly optimised skins.

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Stereo Steve · 07-05-2015, 20:25

It's a biggun though innit? Is there anything like the iphone 6 or a little smaller even maybe? I've got the ZTE Blade S6 which works well but feels and looks cheap. Would like a bit more class and build quality. After a quick look around, the S6 edge seems to be close but it's £148,000.

In the end I think I'll probably buy an unlocked 6 or 6S like I did when the 4S came out. Then choose who to hook it up to.

£299 is getting close to serious phone money to me. Or is it worth it?

Stereo Steve · 07-05-2015, 20:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by lightspeed2398

Google really have to sort this out with updates. I mean there are still loads of devices running Jellybean that are venerable to all sorts of updates. This is a problem for which the solution involves both Google and the OEMs. To be fair on Google they have tried to slim Android down and make it accessible to devices with low specs but the OEMs insist on badly optimised skins.

Yeah, as with my ZTE. It's on Lolly but I suspect that's as far as it will get. There's too much pointless crap on there to upgrade in stable way. Why not just offer Android as is? Why do they have to pour their useless 'improvements' all over it? I gather the Moto phones are vanilla? Not that there is one I would want at the moment.

lightspeed2398 · 07-05-2015, 20:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stereo Steve

Yeah, as with my ZTE. It's on Lolly but I suspect that's as far as it will get. There's too much pointless crap on there to upgrade in stable way. Why not just offer Android as is? Why do they have to pour their useless 'improvements' all over it? I gather the Moto phones are vanilla? Not that there is one I would want at the moment.

The Moto phones are mostly vanilla just a carrier app in the USA and Moto Assist or whatever it's called.

It's come to a point where Samsung are tooting one of the main features of the S6 as having 40% less crap.

It's one of the reasons I stumped up for an iPhone because I don't have to deal with a lot of crap apps that drain battery and cpu cycles, although Newsstand and Game Centre come close.

Stereo Steve · 07-05-2015, 21:29

Yeah, with you there. Stupid really because Android is pretty much OK these days. I like a lot of it. But they mess with it to the point that you are relying on them for an upgrade which is never going to come as it's 3 blokes in a shed with a soldering iron. There would be a good market for a classy, well made phone with plain Android on it. Probably not going to happen.

finbaar · 08-05-2015, 21:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by lightspeed2398

Google really have to sort this out with updates. I mean there are still loads of devices running Jellybean that are vulnerable to all sorts of updates. This is a problem for which the solution involves both Google and the OEMs. To be fair on Google they have tried to slim Android down and make it accessible to devices with low specs but the OEMs insist on badly optimised skins.

IT HAS NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING TO DO WITH GOOGLE. IT IS DOWN TO THE OEM AND THE NETWORKS.

finbaar · 08-05-2015, 21:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stereo Steve

Yeah, with you there. Stupid really because Android is pretty much OK these days. I like a lot of it. But they mess with it to the point that you are relying on them for an upgrade which is never going to come as it's 3 blokes in a shed with a soldering iron. There would be a good market for a classy, well made phone with plain Android on it. Probably not going to happen.

Although I would love such a device and I have flashed an AOSP based rom on every Android phone I have owned, but the experience of the gpe devices has shown this not to be the case. However maybe this was due to it being full price in the USA and online only.
Still I was reading a review of the G4 and the reviewer was complaining that LG hadn't added more software "features".

lightspeed2398 · 08-05-2015, 22:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by finbaar

IT HAS NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING TO DO WITH GOOGLE. IT IS DOWN TO THE OEM AND THE NETWORKS.

You read the bit where I said "to be fair to Google"? Of course it is to do with Google in some ways, for example even for Nexus devices they generally say 18 month update window. Compared to iOS that's not enough especially when mobile phone contracts are 24 months generally.

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06-05-2015, 23:17	#26
DevonBloke Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Totnes, Devon Posts: 6,694	Cellnet... er.. I mean EE actually do have enough 800 for what they need it for. Ultimately it only has to extend beyond the reach of 1800 and once 1800 is fully rolled out that won't really be that many 800 handsets on any particular cell. It has been stated by Celln.... EE that 800 will cover about an extra 1500 square miles across the whole of the UK which isn't a particularly massive amount compared to the total landmass. Most users indoors will offload onto WiFi so 800 will help those in rural areas just out of reach of 1800. 5Mhz of 800 can handle 200 active handsets at full speed (maybe 10 - 15 Mbps). In most areas it will be most unlikely there will be anything like that many handsets active simultaneously in the 800 band. My particular cell (or 120 degree sector) for example I doubt will ever have more than 50-100 active 800 handsets on it at once. LTE will instantly switch back to 1800 on the fly as soon as it's available again. Remember it's simultaneous active handsets. A cell can have a lot more inactive ones. A 10KB pushed email for example only makes that particular handset "active" for a few milliseconds. It then goes inactive again. Because of EE's massive allocation of 1800/2600, 5Mhz of 800 is all they needed really.

06-05-2015, 23:23	#27
Stereo Steve Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,378	What would happen if EE launched a 1Mhz network. Presumably as soon as our phones rang, our spleens would come out of our ears in a liquid form and all local waterfowl would be significantly inconvenienced.

06-05-2015, 23:25	#28
Stereo Steve Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,378	I do have an EE sim in my phone by the way so anyone who can't see I am taking the P needs to give themselves a good talking to.

06-05-2015, 23:44	#29
DevonBloke Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Totnes, Devon Posts: 6,694	That would be excellent. 1Mhz would be better than Radio 4. It would work in the pub and everything.... Only 4 people UK wide could use it at the same time though.....

06-05-2015, 23:57	#30
Stereo Steve Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,378	Have they cranked the 1800 in the South Hams? Took the kids swimming tonight and noted that the EE 3G was solid where 3 months ago it was unusable. 5 bars on VOD 900 2G of course. Blah. But I could use Twattage and Faceturd on EE3G where I couldn't before.

07-05-2015, 00:10	#31
Aye Up Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: North West Posts: 4,885	Quote: Originally Posted by Stereo Steve Have they cranked the 1800 in the South Hams? Took the kids swimming tonight and noted that the EE 3G was solid where 3 months ago it was unusable. 5 bars on VOD 900 2G of course. Blah. But I could use Twattage and Faceturd on EE3G where I couldn't before. Why are you being so antagonistic? Each post in this thread from you, has you stirring the shit at every oppurtunity. FFS grow up!

07-05-2015, 00:22	#32
Stereo Steve Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,378	Quote: Originally Posted by Aye Up Why are you being so antagonistic? Each post in this thread from you, has you stirring the shit at every oppurtunity. FFS grow up! Antagonistic how? Please explain. I don't get you folk. What am I stirring? Are you sure you aren't just a little over sensitive? There is no way at my swimming sesh that I could have viewed any data on VOD as they have nothing but 2G here. It's pathetic. But, they do have damned good 2G which is probably why, much to many folk's frustration, they have not failed and still have a stable customer base. It's equally frustrating that they haven't done anything about 3G. The post you picked on, I have stated that the EE signal in the place I was tonight seems to have improved to the point where I can get on the net. What's stirring about that? This is the wierdest ****ing forum on the net. It's brilliant.

07-05-2015, 10:24	#33
gardensleeper Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 363	I hate to drag this thread back to topic (handbags down now guys....) - has anyone actually bought one yet, and is using it as their day to day phone? I'd like to hear what daily users think of it. In particular, does the battery live up to the hype? I've read a lot of the reviews online, but they're generally one off reviews rather than daily use. I'm sorely tempted - I may try to get one in another store today.

07-05-2015, 10:41	#34
DevonBloke Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Totnes, Devon Posts: 6,694	Yes 3G getting much better now. It's been mentioned before a few times. Theory is the surrounding 4G is offloading traffic from 3G which then expands it's coverage. Not sure how that's happening in Totnes. The swimming pool is served most of the time by the MBNL monopole opposite the post office in Babbage road. The only 4G is coming from Marldon and possibly Buckfastleigh. These serve the top of town and out through to Redworth so it's possible quite a few handsets are coming off the industrial estate cell. Oh, no, I haven't bought an Honour 6, sorry! : )

07-05-2015, 12:01	#35
AxeVictim Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 2,644	Quote: Originally Posted by victor mel Also the Asus Zenphone 2, Sony z2 (£299). Another contender ? http://www.phonearena.com/news/Monst...camera_id69015

07-05-2015, 12:32	#36
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	Steve, its much an 'EE shop staff' slant. Get used to it.

07-05-2015, 14:15	#37
Stereo Steve Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,378	Quote: Originally Posted by alanwarwic Steve, its much an 'EE shop staff' slant. Get used to it. Seems that way.

07-05-2015, 14:19	#38
Stereo Steve Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,378	Quote: Originally Posted by DevonBloke Yes 3G getting much better now. It's been mentioned before a few times. Theory is the surrounding 4G is offloading traffic from 3G which then expands it's coverage. Not sure how that's happening in Totnes. The swimming pool is served most of the time by the MBNL monopole opposite the post office in Babbage road. The only 4G is coming from Marldon and possibly Buckfastleigh. These serve the top of town and out through to Redworth so it's possible quite a few handsets are coming off the industrial estate cell. Oh, no, I haven't bought an Honour 6, sorry! : ) Wasn't it Totnes. Edeswell up by Hatchlands so not 4G. Only other difference is a ZTE phone where I had a 4S before but I can't see it would be better at pulling in a signal. Dunno, maybe. Used to get ful O2/VOD and the odd bar of EE if you were very lucky but now it's solid 3-4 bars and in a metal shed as well. Maybe it's reflecting off a sheep. Anyway, last off topic post.

07-05-2015, 16:01	#39
Aye Up Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: North West Posts: 4,885	I nipped into a Three shop today to have a butchers, I have to say I am very impressed with the Honor 6+. It feels great in the hand, imo it feels better to use than the Note 4 I have. Software/OS was suitably swift, my only gripe is the launcher, I don't like how it copies of iOS, Nova Launcher sharp sorts that out. Granted the handset doesn't have a build quality matching other phones, for the price its a bargain.

07-05-2015, 19:04	#40
clewsy Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Midlands Posts: 2,860	That's what worries me as people are talking about the interface - is that the weakness of the phone?

07-05-2015, 19:49	#41
d123 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,993	Quote: Originally Posted by clewsy That's what worries me as people are talking about the interface - is that the weakness of the phone? A lot of Android users dislike iOS, the UI looks like iOS...

07-05-2015, 20:14	#42
finbaar Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,921	And its on 4.4 ffs.

07-05-2015, 20:23	#43
lightspeed2398 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 1,325	Quote: Originally Posted by finbaar And its on 4.4 ffs. Google really have to sort this out with updates. I mean there are still loads of devices running Jellybean that are vulnerable to all sorts of updates. This is a problem for which the solution involves both Google and the OEMs. To be fair on Google they have tried to slim Android down and make it accessible to devices with low specs but the OEMs insist on badly optimised skins. Last edited by lightspeed2398 : 07-05-2015 at 20:35. Reason: Spelling is hard :-(

07-05-2015, 20:25	#44
Stereo Steve Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,378	It's a biggun though innit? Is there anything like the iphone 6 or a little smaller even maybe? I've got the ZTE Blade S6 which works well but feels and looks cheap. Would like a bit more class and build quality. After a quick look around, the S6 edge seems to be close but it's £148,000. In the end I think I'll probably buy an unlocked 6 or 6S like I did when the 4S came out. Then choose who to hook it up to. £299 is getting close to serious phone money to me. Or is it worth it?

07-05-2015, 20:28	#45
Stereo Steve Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,378	Quote: Originally Posted by lightspeed2398 Google really have to sort this out with updates. I mean there are still loads of devices running Jellybean that are venerable to all sorts of updates. This is a problem for which the solution involves both Google and the OEMs. To be fair on Google they have tried to slim Android down and make it accessible to devices with low specs but the OEMs insist on badly optimised skins. Yeah, as with my ZTE. It's on Lolly but I suspect that's as far as it will get. There's too much pointless crap on there to upgrade in stable way. Why not just offer Android as is? Why do they have to pour their useless 'improvements' all over it? I gather the Moto phones are vanilla? Not that there is one I would want at the moment.

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07-05-2015, 20:34	#46
lightspeed2398 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 1,325	Quote: Originally Posted by Stereo Steve Yeah, as with my ZTE. It's on Lolly but I suspect that's as far as it will get. There's too much pointless crap on there to upgrade in stable way. Why not just offer Android as is? Why do they have to pour their useless 'improvements' all over it? I gather the Moto phones are vanilla? Not that there is one I would want at the moment. The Moto phones are mostly vanilla just a carrier app in the USA and Moto Assist or whatever it's called. It's come to a point where Samsung are tooting one of the main features of the S6 as having 40% less crap. It's one of the reasons I stumped up for an iPhone because I don't have to deal with a lot of crap apps that drain battery and cpu cycles, although Newsstand and Game Centre come close.

07-05-2015, 21:29	#47
Stereo Steve Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,378	Yeah, with you there. Stupid really because Android is pretty much OK these days. I like a lot of it. But they mess with it to the point that you are relying on them for an upgrade which is never going to come as it's 3 blokes in a shed with a soldering iron. There would be a good market for a classy, well made phone with plain Android on it. Probably not going to happen.

08-05-2015, 21:28	#48
finbaar Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,921	Quote: Originally Posted by lightspeed2398 Google really have to sort this out with updates. I mean there are still loads of devices running Jellybean that are vulnerable to all sorts of updates. This is a problem for which the solution involves both Google and the OEMs. To be fair on Google they have tried to slim Android down and make it accessible to devices with low specs but the OEMs insist on badly optimised skins. IT HAS NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING TO DO WITH GOOGLE. IT IS DOWN TO THE OEM AND THE NETWORKS.

08-05-2015, 21:39	#49
finbaar Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,921	Quote: Originally Posted by Stereo Steve Yeah, with you there. Stupid really because Android is pretty much OK these days. I like a lot of it. But they mess with it to the point that you are relying on them for an upgrade which is never going to come as it's 3 blokes in a shed with a soldering iron. There would be a good market for a classy, well made phone with plain Android on it. Probably not going to happen. Although I would love such a device and I have flashed an AOSP based rom on every Android phone I have owned, but the experience of the gpe devices has shown this not to be the case. However maybe this was due to it being full price in the USA and online only. Still I was reading a review of the G4 and the reviewer was complaining that LG hadn't added more software "features".

08-05-2015, 22:42	#50
lightspeed2398 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 1,325	Quote: Originally Posted by finbaar IT HAS NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING TO DO WITH GOOGLE. IT IS DOWN TO THE OEM AND THE NETWORKS. You read the bit where I said "to be fair to Google"? Of course it is to do with Google in some ways, for example even for Nexus devices they generally say 18 month update window. Compared to iOS that's not enough especially when mobile phone contracts are 24 months generally. Last edited by lightspeed2398 : 08-05-2015 at 22:43. Reason: Punctuation