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Old 30-01-2016, 22:31
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Quite a lot of pessimism on the thread this week. Guardiola may well go to City so I think we have to hang on to Wenger. I wanted him out in 2011 but am more reconciled to him since we won the 2 fa cups and signed ozil and sanchez.
Are you sure it's just this week?

Good to see Alexis back on the scoresheet and Coquelin back on the pitch again.
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Old 31-01-2016, 09:26
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Quite a lot of pessimism on the thread this week. Guardiola may well go to City so I think we have to hang on to Wenger. I wanted him out in 2011 but am more reconciled to him since we won the 2 fa cups and signed ozil and sanchez.
I feel the wame way and think ODL should have left a while ago and make room for someone else.

The squad should have better and we should have been more ambitious transfer wise and payers like Rosicky and flamini moved on.

Saying all that, ODL's bought himself time the last couple of years and I'd be more than happy to have him here if he wins silverware every year. This year, we should have walked the league, imo, and we still can win it. Just need to find consistency.
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Old 31-01-2016, 10:51
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I feel the wame way and think ODL should have left a while ago and make room for someone else.

The squad should have better and we should have been more ambitious transfer wise and payers like Rosicky and flamini moved on.

Saying all that, ODL's bought himself time the last couple of years and I'd be more than happy to have him here if he wins silverware every year. This year, we should have walked the league, imo, and we still can win it. Just need to find consistency.
Count me as someone who wants to keep Wenger too (I think we will win the PL). Not to dillute his failings in Europe or moments of tactical naivety, it's easy to forget just how much the power balance of the league shifted with the Chelsea takeover and more recently, Man City. It's only because of years of penny pinching in the post Emirates move, a new sponsorship deal and the stadium finally paying dividends have we finally been able to make big signings.

The backbone of this team are Cech, Özil and Sanchez. Consistency will come when we try and keep all 3 fit.
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Old 31-01-2016, 12:34
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Rosicky out for six weeks according to the Mirror.
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Old 31-01-2016, 13:15
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Rosicky out for six weeks according to the Mirror.
Oh dear. Lovely little player but surely it's time for the knacker's yard for him.
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Old 31-01-2016, 15:03
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Jack also out for longer, according to Arseblog:

http://news.arseblog.com/2016/01/ale...ffer-setbacks/
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Old 31-01-2016, 15:07
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another superb performance ? not seen it or will bother.when is wenger going is all i want to know.no title while him and his weaklings are about.
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Old 31-01-2016, 16:56
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Jack is a real concern. Every injury follows the same path. A bit of a knock followed by a diagnosis of something more serious. Ages to recover accompanied by numerous setbacks on the way. Then when he does get back he looks fragile and in pain every time he goes down. I really, really hope he gets back fully fit but you fear for his future.
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Old 31-01-2016, 17:21
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Jack is a real concern. Every injury follows the same path. A bit of a knock followed by a diagnosis of something more serious. Ages to recover accompanied by numerous setbacks on the way. Then when he does get back he looks fragile and in pain every time he goes down. I really, really hope he gets back fully fit but you fear for his future.
Yes do you start to wonder if he will ever be able to put in a full season or near as damn it. He's still young but the signs are not good. His ankle(s) will always be vulnerable and the way he puts himself about then it's only a matter of time until the next injury. Could he modify his style of play? Not be so robust, I don't know. From a hard hearted point of view the best thing would have been to offload him to City and let them deal with his injuries. It may have sent out the wrong signal to sell him but practically speaking the sensible thing to do. As we still have him then I would write this season off, don't include him in the Euro squad, have all the summer to get himself sorted out for the start of next season and take it from there.

As for Rosicky, I suspect he will call it a day at the end of this season. It would be nice if he could get a bit more game time but it's been a washout for what will be his final season which is a shame.
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Old 31-01-2016, 18:21
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Hull City at home....got to be happy with that at this stage. Chelsea or City will be making an exit so that's good.
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Old 31-01-2016, 21:02
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Hull City at home... again. Quite happy with that. I know there are no easy games (especially after what happened in 2014) but we didnt have Coq, Cech and Alexis then.
I hope for a comfortable 2-0 or 3-1 win.
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Old 01-02-2016, 11:03
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Looking like a quiet transfer deadline day for us.
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Old 01-02-2016, 11:14
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Debuchy looks likely to stay as the loan fee we are asking for is putting other clubs off. I'd be ruthless and keep him as Jenkinson is out for the season so we need experienced backup unless Chambers is up to it.

Regarding tomorrow's game at home against the Saints, I hope Coq comes back into the DM position but can see ODL persisting with Flamini as he was rested and wasn't even in the squad at the weekend.

Also who gets dropped for Alexis? Walcott or Campbell? I think it will be Campbell unfortunately although Walcott has played really poor lately including fluffing his 1v1 chance at the weekend. Instinctively he's good but when he has time to think he more often than not messes up the chance.
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Old 01-02-2016, 11:34
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Looking like a quiet transfer deadline day for us.
Indeed, but we have a fairly decent squad and all the players coming back will be 'like new signings'. Still hopeful Wellbeck's going to come good for us, him being fit (for a while anyway) will give us some much needed cover.

It would be interesting to see what's going to happen in the summer. I really hope that we'll continue to push the boat out and continue spending the cash and attract top quality such as Sanchez, Ozil and Cech. We'll have to move on the likes of Flamini, Rosicky and Arteta. They're now well past their sell by date and we'll not have more than 2/3 years from Cazorla either, and Wilshire is unreliable (and then some...).

I don't buy that we'll not be able to offer what the likes of City and Chelsea can, we have plenty of cash to spend and it will be more of a case of spending it wisely (and keeping everyone fit). Our first 11 shouldn't be any less than our rivals.

Haven't seen any highlights of the games this weekend, but I read that Elneny was good as the deep lying midfielder (lots of touches and good distribution), hopefully we'll see him there more instead of Flamini.

9 points from the next three games will probably see us top the table again, or at least tied with City and some room between us and Leicester and Spuds. After that, we play away to United the same weekend City are away to Liverpool, so we've got to try and make the most of the next three (on paper anyway) winnable games.

Debuchy looks likely to stay as the loan fee we are asking for is putting other clubs off. I'd be ruthless and keep him as Jenkinson is out for the season so we need experienced backup unless Chambers is up to it.

Regarding tomorrow's game at home against the Saints, I hope Coq comes back into the DM position but can see ODL persisting with Flamini as he was rested and wasn't even in the squad at the weekend.

Also who gets dropped for Alexis? Walcott or Campbell? I think it will be Campbell unfortunately although Walcott has played really poor lately including fluffing his 1v1 chance at the weekend. Instinctively he's good but when he has time to think he more often than not messes up.
Yep, we'll need to have good cover for Bellerin, Debuchy gives me greater confidence than Chambers.

Flamini should really have played his last game for us. I'd like to see Coq as our starting DM, and Elneny his deputy.

At a guess, Campbell will be dropped in favour of Wallcott, who is the better player and will give us more pace. I'm hoping it's only a matter of time to that he regains his usual standards. Of course, he may well start with Campbell and keep Walcott on the bench as the sub striker to relieve Giroud. Either way, we should really beat Southampton in spite of the fact that they had a great result at United last round. That will hopefully have been a warning.
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Old 01-02-2016, 11:43
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Agreed - should hopefully have a clear out in the summer and get some quality midfielders in with the bumper TV money coming in.

Elneny was playing more of the box to box role but more defensive minded than Ramsey. Hopefully see more of him and less of Flamini.

We need to start picking up wins on the bounce. 7 points out of 9 in the next 3 should be the minimum.
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Old 01-02-2016, 12:54
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Hull City at home....got to be happy with that at this stage. Chelsea or City will be making an exit so that's good.
Hopefully the City game goes to a replay. They'll start to have a lot fixtures if so.
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Old 01-02-2016, 13:11
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Pep to City in summer confirmed. Ssn. You have to wonder if the Board even tried. #noambition
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Old 01-02-2016, 13:18
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We need to get revenge on soton tomorrow with wins also against Bournemouth and mufc. A win at old Trafford should not be beyond us.
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Old 01-02-2016, 13:29
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Pep to City in summer confirmed. Ssn. You have to wonder if the Board even tried. #noambition
I'd say its Pep who has no ambition.

Hardly a challenge, is it?
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Old 01-02-2016, 13:43
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That's City dominating for the next few years or so. Can you imagine the transfers this summer as well.
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Old 01-02-2016, 14:11
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That's City dominating for the next few years or so. Can you imagine the transfers this summer as well.
Even Chelsea and Utd will be complaining to FIFA if this proceeds, spends wise, as seems reasonable to anticipate.

Interesting to note that Chelsea are winding their spending in somewhat, as the Ramires/Pato set off deals suggest.
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Old 01-02-2016, 14:17
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I'd say its Pep who has no ambition.

Hardly a challenge, is it?
This. He's gone for the money rather than the challenge.
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Old 01-02-2016, 14:23
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Even Chelsea and Utd will be complaining to FIFA if this proceeds, spends wise, as seems reasonable to anticipate.

Interesting to note that Chelsea are winding their spending in somewhat, as the Ramires/Pato set off deals suggest.
Exactly...aren't there supposed to be financial fair play rules or something? I can imagine he's taken the job being told he can bid for whoever he wants at whatever price. Bit disappointed as he would of been a perfect successor for AW.
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Old 01-02-2016, 14:24
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This. He's gone for the money rather than the challenge.
The hate is real
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Old 01-02-2016, 14:37
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This. He's gone for the money rather than the challenge.
TBH the board wouldn't do what City have done, and just get rid of Wenger for Guardiola.

Ironically they did do something similar when Wenger was appointed (cruel to give Rioch a new contract and then sack him), but that was when Dein was around and they had ambition.

If I were a City fan I'd be doing cartwheels and celebrating as if we'd won the treble. I don't think his motivated by money, but he likes clubs that fund big projects. And sure, it's not a big challenge as say going to Liverpool or Arsenal, but he has to build a dynasty at a club with little success, in the shadows of their neighbours.

What this means is Arsenal don't have a succession plan. Wenger holds all the cards, rightly or wrongly. I've got an inkling he'll stay past 2017, but for that to happen he'd have to win the league/Champions League.
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