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Old 24-02-2016, 10:13
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3-1 to us at their place it is then
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Old 24-02-2016, 11:17
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Poor transitions, finishing and decision making - defensively and offensively cost us.

Back when we beat Bayern we played Walcott up front and Cazorla in midfield which helped us on the counter. Last night we were woeful when changing from defence to attack not to mention not maintaining our concentration defensively for 90 minutes.

Barca didn't have to play amazingly well to beat us and that's frustrating.

http://www.espnfc.com/blog/the-match...ssi-makes-sure
We deffo miss Santi, Ramsey is better on the right than in the middle. If Barca want Ramsey and give us silly money, we should take it.
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Old 24-02-2016, 11:35
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We deffo miss Santi, Ramsey is better on the right than in the middle. If Barca want Ramsey and give us silly money, we should take it.
Ramsey has declined and is only in the team based on his performances last season and not on merit. Ox might be a good replacement for him but he's not playing great either and Wilshere will take a while to get back to his best.

Giroud gets shown up against quality opposition, Mertesacker is past it and Walcott is not the player everyone expected him to be by now.

Lots of problems to sort out but luckily we still might be able to win the PL doing enough to scrape wins with Ozil and Alexis creating chances.
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Old 24-02-2016, 11:58
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Can't rely on Wilshere to be available for any length of time sadly. Ramsey seems to have been more and more a one season wonder. Lost his shooting boots. I doubt we will do enough in the Summer transfer window either. Worth bearing in mind the last three major players we have signed pretty much fell in to our laps rather than a big change in our policy.

Flamini, Arteta, Rosicky need to go. I'm more worried that instead Ozil, Alexis etc may just have had enough. Also talk Bellerin is wanted in Spain.
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Old 24-02-2016, 12:09
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Also why wasn't Elneny on the bench instead of Flamini?! Why did we buy him in the first place if we Wenger will only play him in the FA Cup?
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Old 24-02-2016, 12:16
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Wasn't surprised at the loss or the manner in which it occurred, I place a wager on Barcelona on minus 1 an felt a little dirty collecting it.

Re the game, not many of the players delivered their best or anyway near their best in my opinion, Bellerin played well as did Cech and Kos but a lot of the others were poor. Ramsey and Giroud had stinkers, and once again if we had Higuain leading our attack we'd have had at least 1 goal to our name last night.

Another point is that Barca can mix up their play so much better than us, they can play the tip-tap style but also some long balls and wing play too as well as a very impressive counter attack. They can also be a bit more dirty when required too.

Was good seeing Koeman in the studio, I'm a big fan of his and wouldn't mind him taking over from Wenger.
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Old 24-02-2016, 12:20
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Was good seeing Koeman in the studio, I'm a big fan of his and wouldn't mind him taking over from Wenger.
Agreed, he was spot on with his pre match thoughts on how we should set up and wasn't phased by hyping up MSN compared to Rio and Wrighty.
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Old 24-02-2016, 12:26
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Agreed, he was spot on with his pre match thoughts on how we should set up and wasn't phased by hyping up MSN compared to Rio and Wrighty.
Yes he seems very tactically astute, something we are often found lacking. He also seems like a nice bloke too.
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Old 24-02-2016, 13:05
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Wasn't surprised at the loss or the manner in which it occurred, I place a wager on Barcelona on minus 1 an felt a little dirty collecting it.

Re the game, not many of the players delivered their best or anyway near their best in my opinion, Bellerin played well as did Cech and Kos but a lot of the others were poor. Ramsey and Giroud had stinkers, and once again if we had Higuain leading our attack we'd have had at least 1 goal to our name last night.

Another point is that Barca can mix up their play so much better than us, they can play the tip-tap style but also some long balls and wing play too as well as a very impressive counter attack. They can also be a bit more dirty when required too.

Was good seeing Koeman in the studio, I'm a big fan of his and wouldn't mind him taking over from Wenger.
From memory I think him and Wenger have had a few run ins over the years. So can't see him taking over, if as expected Arsene basically chooses his successor.
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Old 24-02-2016, 15:32
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So can't see him taking over, if as expected Arsene basically chooses his successor.
This.

Wenger has too much power, and I believe he will definitely choose our new manager and then move upstairs which will be the wrong thing for the club to let happen.

What am I talking about, in his mind Wenger is the club - what he says goes and the Board don't seem to want to do diddly squat about it.
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Old 24-02-2016, 22:53
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Koeman has had Wenger's number for years, going back to Ajax in 2003 when his young team set-up for two draws, marked Henry out of both games and got the result they wanted.
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Old 24-02-2016, 23:59
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Arsenal were unlucky last night
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Old 25-02-2016, 09:11
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We shouldn't forget that continually cocking up the group stages doesn't help our cause either.
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Old 25-02-2016, 10:17
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We shouldn't forget that continually cocking up the group stages doesn't help our cause either.
In previous years this argument is strong, but this season I think it would have been a tough ask to finish above Bayern. It'll be better next season, we'll be in pot 1...
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Old 25-02-2016, 18:49
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So the replay is on March 9th. BT Sport are showing it live. Not sure how that squares with the UEFA CL games being played too but I care not.
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Old 25-02-2016, 19:42
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7pm kick off too. I think it's Tuesday 8th March not the 9th.
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Old 25-02-2016, 20:07
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7pm kick off too. I think it's Tuesday 8th March not the 9th.
Yes, my mistake...don't know where I got the 9th from!
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Old 25-02-2016, 20:09
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Martial injured himself in the Manu warm up and is out of there game tonight...surely we won't have a better chance this Sunday?
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Old 25-02-2016, 20:12
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Martial injured himself in the Manu warm up and is out of there game tonight...surely we won't have a better chance this Sunday?
Was just about to post the same! Best chance in ages to beat them away in the league.
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Old 25-02-2016, 20:23
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Which reminds me, on the radio they were saying Ox has suspected knee and ankle damage.
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Old 25-02-2016, 20:43
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Which reminds me, on the radio they were saying Ox has suspected knee and ankle damage.
Kind of sums his season up really. Of course we need all hands on deck but to be honest I am not going to lose too much sleep over his absence.
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Old 25-02-2016, 21:29
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Koeman has had Wenger's number for years, going back to Ajax in 2003 when his young team set-up for two draws, marked Henry out of both games and got the result they wanted.
I remember that, called them defensive.

Think I would happily snap up Ancelotti as first choice to succeed Dear Leader. Him or Simeone please.
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Old 26-02-2016, 01:29
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From memory I think him and Wenger have had a few run ins over the years. So can't see him taking over, if as expected Arsene basically chooses his successor.
This.

Wenger has too much power, and I believe he will definitely choose our new manager and then move upstairs which will be the wrong thing for the club to let happen.

What am I talking about, in his mind Wenger is the club - what he says goes and the Board don't seem to want to do diddly squat about it.
Hasn't Wenger been saying in the last few months how he would not choose his successor. Maybe it could be lies but i do not think he 'd have too much say. Id say go for Simone or De Boer.
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Old 26-02-2016, 07:59
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Hasn't Wenger been saying in the last few months how he would not choose his successor. Maybe it could be lies but i do not think he 'd have too much say. Id say go for Simone or De Boer.
Has he? I haven't heard that one. Maybe he won't directly, but I'm sure he'll have a hand in it somewhere along the line. Could we even trust the Board to make the right decision?

Still, we've got good old Arsene for the foreseeable future, so many reasons to be happy.

So to Sunday, even though it was against poor opposition yesterday, the Utd youngsters looked good. Can we up our game, as that win will have given them a bit of confidence.
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Old 26-02-2016, 09:39
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Think I would happily snap up Ancelotti as first choice to succeed Dear Leader. Him or Simeone please.
Can't see Ancelotti leaving Bayern for us but you never know. Simeone would be great and is tactically one of the best out there.

Hasn't Wenger been saying in the last few months how he would not choose his successor. Maybe it could be lies but i do not think he 'd have too much say. Id say go for Simone or De Boer.
You're right, he said he would have no say. The type of appointment would say alot whether Wenger was involved in it or not.

Could we even trust the Board to make the right decision?
That is the crux of the issue and is a major reason why Wenger has so much power at the club. Are there any genuine football people left in the board after David Dein left? They can't trust themselves to make tough footballing decisions to take us to the next level so leave it to Wenger to handle it all.
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