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Arsenal Supporters Thread (Part 16)
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Originally Posted by Goodwin:
“Evening Standard - Mertesacker - We must find our killer instinct again. 'I wanted as well that we go through here, I think we had the chances and we played in the right way apart from the fact we didn't score. That is something you need to do in football if you want to be successful'.
You couldn't make it up.”
“Evening Standard - Mertesacker - We must find our killer instinct again. 'I wanted as well that we go through here, I think we had the chances and we played in the right way apart from the fact we didn't score. That is something you need to do in football if you want to be successful'.
You couldn't make it up.”
He always comes out with it, watch him have a mare vs Barca and Everton. Just wish our lot would just be quiet.
11 points behind Leicester
Not that it matters. As long as the Dear Leader gets Top 4 his job is perfectly safe.
Not that it matters. As long as the Dear Leader gets Top 4 his job is perfectly safe.
Any slim chance we had of winning the title is now zero. We ain't gonna overhaul 11 points now. Those 2 games (MU & Swan) have cost us dearly. I just hope Leicester win it asap.
Originally Posted by Goodwin:
“Any slim chance we had of winning the title is now zero. We ain't gonna overhaul 11 points now. Those 2 games (MU & Swan) have cost us dearly. I just hope Leicester win it asap.”
“Any slim chance we had of winning the title is now zero. We ain't gonna overhaul 11 points now. Those 2 games (MU & Swan) have cost us dearly. I just hope Leicester win it asap.”
It is not the 2 games that has cost us, it is our form since the start of the season and especially after the new year.
*"Congratulations to them" (use sparingly)
*"I'd like to remind you we're the only team to beat them twice, other teams didn't do their job - why don't you question them?"
*"They proved that you don't need to spend in the transfer window"
*"City, United and Chelsea have spent more than us, reproach them"
*"We've qualified for Champions League football for the umpteenth year...........no-one else can say that"
*"Leicester will find it difficult to retain the title............we're consistent"
*"We've been unlucky with injuries..........."
*"I'd like to remind you we're the only team to beat them twice, other teams didn't do their job - why don't you question them?"
*"They proved that you don't need to spend in the transfer window"
*"City, United and Chelsea have spent more than us, reproach them"
*"We've qualified for Champions League football for the umpteenth year...........no-one else can say that"
*"Leicester will find it difficult to retain the title............we're consistent"
*"We've been unlucky with injuries..........."
Originally Posted by SpiderMan 83:
“It is not the 2 games that has cost us, it is our form since the start of the season and especially after the new year.”
“It is not the 2 games that has cost us, it is our form since the start of the season and especially after the new year.”
I know there have been other games where we should have won and not lost but in the context of where we were prior to the Man Utd game and after beating Leicester, we were quite well placed. We would have been 5 points behind with a game in hand had we won them both. It would not have been insurmountable but 11 points is just too much to make up now.
Originally Posted by Belligerence:
“*"Congratulations to them" (use sparingly)
*"I'd like to remind you we're the only team to beat them twice, other teams didn't do their job - why don't you question them?"
*"They proved that you don't need to spend in the transfer window"
*"City, United and Chelsea have spent more than us, reproach them"
*"We've qualified for Champions League football for the umpteenth year...........no-one else can say that"
*"Leicester will find it difficult to retain the title............we're consistent"
*"We've been unlucky with injuries..........."”
“*"Congratulations to them" (use sparingly)
*"I'd like to remind you we're the only team to beat them twice, other teams didn't do their job - why don't you question them?"
*"They proved that you don't need to spend in the transfer window"
*"City, United and Chelsea have spent more than us, reproach them"
*"We've qualified for Champions League football for the umpteenth year...........no-one else can say that"
*"Leicester will find it difficult to retain the title............we're consistent"
*"We've been unlucky with injuries..........."”
. It be embaressing for the club if he does.
Originally Posted by Belligerence:
“*"Congratulations to them" (use sparingly)
*"I'd like to remind you we're the only team to beat them twice, other teams didn't do their job - why don't you question them?"
*"They proved that you don't need to spend in the transfer window"
*"City, United and Chelsea have spent more than us, reproach them"
*"We've qualified for Champions League football for the umpteenth year...........no-one else can say that"
*"Leicester will find it difficult to retain the title............we're consistent"
*"We've been unlucky with injuries..........."”
“*"Congratulations to them" (use sparingly)
*"I'd like to remind you we're the only team to beat them twice, other teams didn't do their job - why don't you question them?"
*"They proved that you don't need to spend in the transfer window"
*"City, United and Chelsea have spent more than us, reproach them"
*"We've qualified for Champions League football for the umpteenth year...........no-one else can say that"
*"Leicester will find it difficult to retain the title............we're consistent"
*"We've been unlucky with injuries..........."”
Those are brilliant and also completely depressing because I guarantee some form of most of them will come from Wenger before the season is out. He has no shame and very little self awareness left.
Keeping my fingers crossed the stadium turns on him before this wasted season ends.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing. He could have left on a high after the FA Cup win last season. The old addage always leave them wanting more springs to mind. Instead it's like having an old relative who has outstayed their welcome and just won't leave and can't take a hint. I compare him to Ranieri who urged the fans to pump up the volume at Leicester last night with 20 or mins left and shouting out instructions to the team. Then we have our manager who just sits there head in hands or moaning to the 4th official. The joy has gone. The only way he might walk is if we do capitulate big time. He keeps saying we focus on the next match but then we make the same mistakes so what focus does he mean?!! We are going to get our arses handed on a plate in Barcelona. No way we will come away with anything.
Originally Posted by Belligerence:
“*"Congratulations to them" (use sparingly)
*"I'd like to remind you we're the only team to beat them twice, other teams didn't do their job - why don't you question them?"
*"They proved that you don't need to spend in the transfer window"
*"City, United and Chelsea have spent more than us, reproach them"
*"We've qualified for Champions League football for the umpteenth year...........no-one else can say that"
*"Leicester will find it difficult to retain the title............we're consistent"
*"We've been unlucky with injuries..........."”
“*"Congratulations to them" (use sparingly)
*"I'd like to remind you we're the only team to beat them twice, other teams didn't do their job - why don't you question them?"
*"They proved that you don't need to spend in the transfer window"
*"City, United and Chelsea have spent more than us, reproach them"
*"We've qualified for Champions League football for the umpteenth year...........no-one else can say that"
*"Leicester will find it difficult to retain the title............we're consistent"
*"We've been unlucky with injuries..........."”
All of the above, but my favourite is "we beat them twice"!!
*Drink* - give that team a trophy.
Originally Posted by Belligerence:
“*"Congratulations to them" (use sparingly)
*"I'd like to remind you we're the only team to beat them twice, other teams didn't do their job - why don't you question them?"
*"They proved that you don't need to spend in the transfer window"
*"City, United and Chelsea have spent more than us, reproach them"
*"We've qualified for Champions League football for the umpteenth year...........no-one else can say that"
*"Leicester will find it difficult to retain the title............we're consistent"
*"We've been unlucky with injuries..........."”
“*"Congratulations to them" (use sparingly)
*"I'd like to remind you we're the only team to beat them twice, other teams didn't do their job - why don't you question them?"
*"They proved that you don't need to spend in the transfer window"
*"City, United and Chelsea have spent more than us, reproach them"
*"We've qualified for Champions League football for the umpteenth year...........no-one else can say that"
*"Leicester will find it difficult to retain the title............we're consistent"
*"We've been unlucky with injuries..........."”
Don't forget the usual statement of "judge me at the end of the season" will change to "now is not the time to analyse what went wrong".
Media fall for it every time.
Originally Posted by sotek:
“Those are brilliant and also completely depressing because I guarantee some form of most of them will come from Wenger before the season is out. He has no shame and very little self awareness left.
Keeping my fingers crossed the stadium turns on him before this wasted season ends.”
“Those are brilliant and also completely depressing because I guarantee some form of most of them will come from Wenger before the season is out. He has no shame and very little self awareness left.
Keeping my fingers crossed the stadium turns on him before this wasted season ends.”
Either he has no shame or is strong willed to receive all the critisims he takes and not walk away. Either way no way would still be here after next season. That ship has sailed. People say he is under no pressure but if you look at him he looks broken like a man who knows its coming to an end. You can see the pressure on his face.
Originally Posted by Goodwin:
“Hindsight is a wonderful thing. He could have left on a high after the FA Cup win last season. The old addage always leave them wanting more springs to mind. Instead it's like having an old relative who has outstayed their welcome and just won't leave and can't take a hint. I compare him to Ranieri who urged the fans to pump up the volume at Leicester last night with 20 or mins left and shouting out instructions to the team. Then we have our manager who just sits there head in hands or moaning to the 4th official. The joy has gone. The only way he might walk is if we do capitulate big time. He keeps saying we focus on the next match but then we make the same mistakes so what focus does he mean?!! We are going to get our arses handed on a plate in Barcelona. No way we will come away with anything.”
“Hindsight is a wonderful thing. He could have left on a high after the FA Cup win last season. The old addage always leave them wanting more springs to mind. Instead it's like having an old relative who has outstayed their welcome and just won't leave and can't take a hint. I compare him to Ranieri who urged the fans to pump up the volume at Leicester last night with 20 or mins left and shouting out instructions to the team. Then we have our manager who just sits there head in hands or moaning to the 4th official. The joy has gone. The only way he might walk is if we do capitulate big time. He keeps saying we focus on the next match but then we make the same mistakes so what focus does he mean?!! We are going to get our arses handed on a plate in Barcelona. No way we will come away with anything.”
Even if Barca smash us, would it really matter in the context of the rest of the season. I agree in what you say about Wenger and Raneri. One is excited about the challenge the other looks like he needs a new challenge.
Wenger is not a bad manager and i think he still has a lot to offer a team in football. I just think he needs a new challenge. If that means going to a Everton, Southampton, West .
ham etc. To try and get them top 4 so be it. I just think he is not what arsenal needs anymore. It will be sad to see him go and it saddens me that he will go to boo's and Cheers from fans wanting him out instead of the fond farewell he should get. Guess he can only blame himself.
No it's not nice it has come to this. We have had some great times with him but the board or whoever should have said thanks but we are looking for a new direction. Of course I know whilst we always finished top 4 then that was never going to happen. I fully expect him to be here in Aug unless something extraordinary happens. Then next season they need to start the search for a new manager. I'll be dumbfounded if he is offered an extension.
Ranieri downplaying Leicesters chances apparently, think its all mind games though.
Title went when we lost to Man U and Swans.
Title went when we lost to Man U and Swans.
Originally Posted by Goodwin:
“I'll be dumbfounded if he is offered an extension.”
“I'll be dumbfounded if he is offered an extension.”
Prepare to be dumbfounded Goodwin, he's already laid the groundwork with his recent comments "I'm as motivated as ever". As we've said before, he gives them, particularly Stan, what they want. Only a complete fan revolution can change things and I don't think that'll happen any time soon.
Originally Posted by SpiderMan 83:
“Either he has no shame or is strong willed to receive all the critisims he takes and not walk away. Either way no way would still be here after next season. That ship has sailed. People say he is under no pressure but if you look at him he looks broken like a man who knows its coming to an end. You can see the pressure on his face.”
“Either he has no shame or is strong willed to receive all the critisims he takes and not walk away. Either way no way would still be here after next season. That ship has sailed. People say he is under no pressure but if you look at him he looks broken like a man who knows its coming to an end. You can see the pressure on his face.”
It's the pressure of a man who knows that his vindication is never going to happen. He's spent the last decade convincing himself that one glorious day his "stability" and "consistency" would pay off. This is the season when it "should" have happened, owing to the collective clusterf*** that the usual suspects are having.
Instead all those plaudits that Wenger hoped to receive are redundant and the praise is about to go to Ranieri (who couldn't even manage Greece to a victory against the Faroe Islands
) or Pochettino (a relative PL novice, in charge of the hated Spurs ). Everything that he's based this phase of his career on is about to be shown up as a false premise. It's almost Shakespearean.
Originally Posted by satellite:
“Prepare to be dumbfounded Goodwin, he's already laid the groundwork with his recent comments "I'm as motivated as ever". As we've said before, he gives them, particularly Stan, what they want. Only a complete fan revolution can change things and I don't think that'll happen any time soon.”
“Prepare to be dumbfounded Goodwin, he's already laid the groundwork with his recent comments "I'm as motivated as ever". As we've said before, he gives them, particularly Stan, what they want. Only a complete fan revolution can change things and I don't think that'll happen any time soon.”
Hmmm I am not so sure. I did think earlier in the season he would be offered a new 2 yr deal after next season but I wouldn't put money on it now. He didn't sound as convincing in the presser earlier today. Mostly stuff we have heard before but I don't know...just didn't sound overly confident. The fans turning against him is not sustainable, 4th place or not. Something will have to give. The other difference this time is that the press (well most of the press) and some pundits think he should go too. There is a bit of momentum, not much but more than before. He's not had this much pressure for a good while and there's no FA Cup this time to pacify the fans.
Originally Posted by satellite:
“Prepare to be dumbfounded Goodwin, he's already laid the groundwork with his recent comments "I'm as motivated as ever". As we've said before, he gives them, particularly Stan, what they want. Only a complete fan revolution can change things and I don't think that'll happen any time soon.”
“Prepare to be dumbfounded Goodwin, he's already laid the groundwork with his recent comments "I'm as motivated as ever". As we've said before, he gives them, particularly Stan, what they want. Only a complete fan revolution can change things and I don't think that'll happen any time soon.”
Nah he will be done by the end of his contract if not before. This time the rumours are getting stronger, he is not sounding like a confident man who knows will be here too long unlike in the past. The fan unrest is gathering and players are not working for him. The way i see the fact he is denying so much his job is safe leads to see his job is under pressure. I actually think the board are looking for his replacement, it is just a case of how soon. I know you will say. "It will be same old same old" If or when Raneri and his boys win the league even members of the board will question him.
Originally Posted by Goodwin:
“Hmmm I am not so sure. I did think earlier in the season he would be offered a new 2 yr deal after next season but I wouldn't put money on it now. He didn't sound as convincing in the presser earlier today. Mostly stuff we have heard before but I don't know...just didn't sound overly confident. The fans turning against him is not sustainable, 4th place or not. Something will have to give. The other difference this time is that the press (well most of the press) and some pundits think he should go too. There is a bit of momentum, not much but more than before. He's not had this much pressure for a good while and there's no FA Cup this time to pacify the fans.”
“Hmmm I am not so sure. I did think earlier in the season he would be offered a new 2 yr deal after next season but I wouldn't put money on it now. He didn't sound as convincing in the presser earlier today. Mostly stuff we have heard before but I don't know...just didn't sound overly confident. The fans turning against him is not sustainable, 4th place or not. Something will have to give. The other difference this time is that the press (well most of the press) and some pundits think he should go too. There is a bit of momentum, not much but more than before. He's not had this much pressure for a good while and there's no FA Cup this time to pacify the fans.”
All of this.
The thing is the Board need to feel the heat. They need to fear the consequences of even contemplating rewarding Wenger's failure with another contract.
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