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Arsenal Supporters Thread (Part 16)
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mialicious
03-06-2015
God this thread is depressing, a few days after the seasons ends with a trophy and instead of reveling in victory for a week or two you are already bitching about arsene (our most successful manager ever) and the signings he hasn't even had the chance to make yet.
Why keep looking to the past, the corner has been turned, the glory years are back again. you are moaning about some fringe players and signings he made 5 years ago when we the most we could spend was 15m. but the whole squad is already packed out with world class talent.
'supporters'.. i think some of you need to look up the definition of that word.
I remember at the end of last season some of you on here were saying that we should have martinez or rodgers as our manager… you numpties.
Wouter
03-06-2015
No need for posts like this, I feel. We all have a view and should be able to voice this without being called names.

I respect Wenger, but also question certain things about him and feel that I provide ample evidence to suggest that maybe he could/should have done better.

As a lot of supporters have said, the last two seasons have been good, although I still feel that we could have done better. We needlessly dropped a lot of points against what I consider teams Arsenal should comfortably beat.

Now that Wenger doesn't have the 'financial contraints', it will be good to see how we'll fare in terms of transfers. Players at key positions that we need to fill are available (Czech and Schneiderlin for example), and i hope that we can add some quality.

As you say, the future looks a lot better and long may it continue.
yellowlabbie
03-06-2015
So the FA are charging Jack.
Jim De Ville
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“So the FA are charging Jack.”

Pretty pathetic, in my opinion.
yellowlabbie
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by Jim De Ville:
“Pretty pathetic, in my opinion.”

Yes, me too, maybe Spurs complained to the FA?
Jim De Ville
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“Yes, me too, maybe Spurs complained to the FA?”

I'd be surprised. Most of their fans seemed to wonder what all of the fuss was about.

It's just the FA having to be seen to 'do the right thing', because Wishere swore. That's the permanently-offended society that we now live in, I'm afraid.
yellowlabbie
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by Jim De Ville:
“I'd be surprised. Most of their fans seemed to wonder what all of the fuss was about.

It's just the FA having to be seen to 'do the right thing', because Wishere swore. That's the permanently-offended society that we now live in, I'm afraid.”

Yes, maybe but I just wonder why it took them so long to make this decision?
NightHawk123
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by Jim De Ville:
“Pretty pathetic, in my opinion.”

Agreed. The reason for charging him, "It is alleged his conduct in making and/or inciting certain comments during the club's open bus trophy tour was improper and/or brought the game into disrepute."

Debatable imo. So Sterling's laughing gas is fine but Jack's banter and singing a song sung every week at the emirates brings the game into disrepute. Just a bunch of old men with sticks up their arses.

Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“Yes, maybe but I just wonder why it took them so long to make this decision?”

Obviously Spuds fans whining..maybe they should try and win something rather than b*tching when we do.
satellite
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“So the FA are charging Jack.”

Bit daft, all I can think of is he did exactly the same last year, maybe he was warned on the QT then and this time they acted?
Elyan
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by satellite:
“Cast the line, wait for someone to bite and reel in slowly........so transparent.”

Originally Posted by satellite:
“Sensible post and 100% correct.”

It's you that's predictable and transparent love.

If someone disagrees with you they're a troll. If they agree with you they're great.

Some on here find it hard to accept that most Arsenal fans still fully support our manager.

And as I've said before, if you think I'm baiting press the alert function. If not, change the record.
satellite
03-06-2015
Originally Posted by Elyan:
“It's you that's predictable and transparent love.

If someone disagrees with you they're a troll. If they agree with you they're great.

Some on here find it hard to accept that most Arsenal fans still fully support our manager.

And as I've said before, if you think I'm baiting press the alert function. If not, change the record.”

That's a rather aggressive post - hit a nerve did I?

Everyone on here was extremely happy with our win and complimented Arsene on his team selection etc - but you couldn't resist a dig, you didn't get a reply so you tried it again. Don't think people don't see what you're up to.

And I'd cut the patronising 'love' out if I were you.
Tiron
04-06-2015
Originally Posted by satellite:
“That's a rather aggressive post - hit a nerve did I?

Everyone on here was extremely happy with our win and complimented Arsene on his team selection etc - but you couldn't resist a dig, you didn't get a reply so you tried it again. Don't think people don't see what you're up to.

And I'd cut the patronising 'love' out if I were you.”


Honestly, I don't know why that poster always seem more about getting digs in than anything else.

So transparent and tedious!
grimtales1
04-06-2015
Pretty pathetic the FA are charging Jack for having a laugh/banter imo. He must have (rightly) assumed it was fine after last year?
Elyan
04-06-2015
Originally Posted by satellite:
“That's a rather aggressive post - hit a nerve did I?

Everyone on here was extremely happy with our win and complimented Arsene on his team selection etc - but you couldn't resist a dig, you didn't get a reply so you tried it again. Don't think people don't see what you're up to.

And I'd cut the patronising 'love' out if I were you.”

Originally Posted by Tiron:
“Honestly, I don't know why that poster always seem more about getting digs in than anything else.

So transparent and tedious!”

You make comments, then some people might offer alternatives, or challenge your opinion. It's what these forum things are all about.

You have to learn to accept that not everyone shares your opinions, and if someone doesn't, they are not necessarily a troll.

It's not guaranteed that everyone will just float along with the flow to remain popular with the group. Some of us don't bother about that.

Surprised I have to explain how these things work, but hey ho.
satellite
04-06-2015
Originally Posted by Elyan:
“You make comments, then some people might offer alternatives, or challenge your opinion. It's what these forum things are all about.

You have to learn to accept that not everyone shares your opinions, and if someone doesn't, they are not necessarily a troll.

It's not guaranteed that everyone will just float along with the flow to remain popular with the group. Some of us don't bother about that.

Surprised I have to explain how these things work, but hey ho.”

BIB - Maybe you just have to take that on board yourself. You make statements, not offer opinions and then expect others to agree. If you don't get a response, you then make another provocative post designed to start an argument.

But that's fine, if that's what floats your boat, you just carry on.

As for alerting, as you mentioned in your previous post. Thankfully I've never alerted a fellow poster in all my years on here, that's not my style Cosmo. But as there is an 'ignore' function, that will be my favoured route from now on. So post away, I'm happy for you to have the last word which you undoubtedly won't be able to resist doing.
mialicious
04-06-2015
“Victoria Concordia Crescit"
Wouter
11-06-2015
Been quiet here!

So, Diaby's been officially released but may be given a pay as you play contract. I'd rathet see an established name to arrive in his position but I'm not against a combination of the two.

How, if at all will Pod feature feature next season? Personally, I'd like to see him movef on as well if that means we'll get a 'proper' improvement on him. He's 30 now but we should get a decent fee for him and with Diaby's and his wages off the bill, it should make some room in the wage budget.

In term of new additions, we can do worse than gambling on Micah Richards on a free. He's still young and will be looking to get back into the England team.

That will mean that we can 'spend big' on a defensive midfield player and a striker. Czech or Casillas would be excellent, but wouldn't make a huge dent in the kitty.

The problem is that ODL may look for 'value' and add to the existing mediocrity. Not what we need fot a proper challenge.
CLL Dodge
12-06-2015
Another FA charge:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33109008
DavidT
12-06-2015
Think there was something mentioned at the time of the transfer. Can't remember what the problem was supposed to be though.
NightHawk123
12-06-2015
Story behind Alexis Sanchez

http://youtu.be/ix1y8_MjKec

Has the talent to become an Arsenal great.
Wouter
13-06-2015
So, Martinez is reported to be going to AC Milan, wonder if ODL is bringing in a new striker.

Walcott's apparently going to sign a new deal. I'm happy with that, he's been good the last bit of the season when given a chance (even through the middle).

Deals for Gundogan and Czech are also still on the cards and both would be an improvement. Hopefully he'll want to stay in London, which would mean we're in prime position.

Agree re Sanchez, potentially the biggest player since TH, possibly even better. Hopefully, he'll stay for a good number of years winning lots.
Armi
13-06-2015
Originally Posted by Wouter:
“Been quiet here!

So, Diaby's been officially released but may be given a pay as you play contract. I'd rathet see an established name to arrive in his position but I'm not against a combination of the two.

How, if at all will Pod feature feature next season? Personally, I'd like to see him movef on as well if that means we'll get a 'proper' improvement on him. He's 30 now but we should get a decent fee for him and with Diaby's and his wages off the bill, it should make some room in the wage budget.

In term of new additions, we can do worse than gambling on Micah Richards on a free. He's still young and will be looking to get back into the England team.

That will mean that we can 'spend big' on a defensive midfield player and a striker. Czech or Casillas would be excellent, but wouldn't make a huge dent in the kitty.

The problem is that ODL may look for 'value' and add to the existing mediocrity. Not what we need fot a proper challenge.”

Well if you see players like Sanchez, Ozil, Ramsey, Cazorla, Wilshere, Chamberlain, Bellerin...etc. as mediocre, I'm not sure where we go from there.

Maybe if Lionel Messi has eleven brothers who can all play as well as him, Wenger can go and buy them - if he has a billion pounds to spare.
Hayden
13-06-2015
I don't think we're in a position where we need to be taking 'gambles' on players like Micah Richards.
Wouter
13-06-2015
Originally Posted by Armi:
“Well if you see players like Sanchez, Ozil, Ramsey, Cazorla, Wilshere, Chamberlain, Bellerin...etc. as mediocre, I'm not sure where we go from there.

Maybe if Lionel Messi has eleven brothers who can all play as well as him, Wenger can go and buy them - if he has a billion pounds to spare.”

I meant as in the players' positions I mentioned, striker, goalie and a defensive midfield player.

As you rightly point out, we have some real quality and I'd like us to add TO that with re same level of quality. No disrespect to Wellbeck, Ospina, Coquelin and less so, Giroud, but we can do better than that.
Armi
13-06-2015
There are many things to consider when adding to the squad. The criteria is quite rightly a lot more than just how good the player is. We have a good spirit in the squad at the moment, and Wenger will be careful not to bring any bad apples in.

He will need to find players who are better than what we have, can fit in personality-wise, want to live in the UK, fit our salary ceiling, and are not carrying inflated transfer fees / signing on demands.
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