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Old 09-04-2016, 14:21
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Hmmm, momentum swings back our way it seems. Crazy game.
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Old 09-04-2016, 14:23
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how reassuring. Walcott has just been shown a picture of a football pitch by Bould.
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Old 09-04-2016, 14:37
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Not good enough.
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Old 09-04-2016, 14:38
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That is that then.
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Old 09-04-2016, 14:38
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well, hope Leicester can keep out Spurs
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Old 09-04-2016, 14:39
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That's that then. Not good enough.
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Old 09-04-2016, 14:42
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Let's be honest, title was over weeks ago and that first half performance should've convinced anyone that this team isn't good enough.

Always thought this would be the toughest game in the run-in, and a point isn't bad on paper. But throwing away a 2-0 lead....you come to expect that with Wenger. He won't change, the players should've tightened up after Carroll's first and take a 2-1 lead into half time. They didn't.

Midfielders didn't offer much protection to the defence, Gabriel was shocking.

Second is the best this team can do. Win both home games and hope Spurs start to slip up. Think that's plusible.

how reassuring. Walcott has just been shown a picture of a football pitch by Bould.


Arsenal do tactics now? Thought they just ran around a bit and told to enjoy themselves.
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Old 09-04-2016, 14:53
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Shocking managerial performance from Monsieur £8 million a year.
Needs to come out and apologise and then resign.
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Old 09-04-2016, 15:13
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Just highlights the need for a top (and I mean top) centre back. Gabriel is as useful as a chocolate tea pot.
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Old 09-04-2016, 15:31
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Just highlights the need for a top (and I mean top) centre back. Gabriel is as useful as a chocolate tea pot.
But we could sign a top defender and the problems will still reappear. Arsenal could sign Messi, Ronaldo, Pogba, and the problems will continue.

The issue is Wenger's system, and him not getting the best out of the team. Has been for seasons.

His 'tactics' in an ideal world are fine -- worry about your performances, and express yourself. But he does little to counter the opposition. He always stumbles on solutions instead of actively finding them.

What did Adams say, Graham used to drill the defence and make them do the basics time and time again until they were sick of it. Where are the drills for Gabriel and Kosicelny? I know Wenger doesn't like that, but tough, he's a manager and should stop mollycoddling them. The defence gets exposed time and time again and all he does is papers over cracks.

I don't even think Gabriel is terrible, but he needs help.
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Old 09-04-2016, 15:32
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Another Achilles heel shown up today not being able to handle a physical strong forward. Reminded me of when Crouch got a hattrick against us.

Then again Wenger doesn't do tactics. Maybe Cech and Mertesacker should have started for their height. Trying to go for the third instead of holding 2-1 going into half time was typical of Wenger and his side.

Points dropped yet again.
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Old 09-04-2016, 15:52
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Another Achilles heel shown up today not being able to handle a physical strong forward. Reminded me of when Crouch got a hattrick against us.

Then again Wenger doesn't do tactics. Maybe Cech and Mertesacker should have started for their height.

Points dropped yet again.
Playing a team that is going for top 4 was always going to be tricky. The who club knows we are not going to win the league. These lot know its about top 4. It is a point gained for them. Tbh i do not see why people are shocked and suprised. Just because we had two wins papering over the cracks did not mean we would go on some amazing run. At least this way we all know where we stand.
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Old 09-04-2016, 16:05
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Carroll should have been sent off for one of the fouls on Kos, but whats done is done.
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Old 09-04-2016, 16:29
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amuses me to see how many calling for Carroll for England. With a non English ref today, he'd have been red carded for his 1st half challenge on Koscielny, and if the ref hadn't spotted that, definitely for his elbow on Gabriel. Fact is, he can't get a game until Bilic realises he's up against the CBs of Arsenal, then in he comes.

We need a new manager, CB, striker at the very least. I do like the look of Elneny though. Where's Campbell? I dread that Walcott will be kept on as no-one will pay him what we do, and that Campbell will be sold instead. Campbell's average, but he's a good option to come on off the bench and do his utmost and this season has been better than Theo.

Depressing that you could read this thread for any of the last 5 or 6 seasons. The banners at the end were expensively printed, don't you think?!
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Old 09-04-2016, 16:30
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All 4 of our CBs are injury prone. Not convinced by Gabriel and Kos as a partnership. Massive oversight by Wenger not buying another.

Time to spend big on a CB in the summer.
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Old 09-04-2016, 16:47
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But we could sign a top defender and the problems will still reappear. Arsenal could sign Messi, Ronaldo, Pogba, and the problems will continue.

The issue is Wenger's system, and him not getting the best out of the team. Has been for seasons.

His 'tactics' in an ideal world are fine -- worry about your performances, and express yourself. But he does little to counter the opposition. He always stumbles on solutions instead of actively finding them.

What did Adams say, Graham used to drill the defence and make them do the basics time and time again until they were sick of it. Where are the drills for Gabriel and Kosicelny? I know Wenger doesn't like that, but tough, he's a manager and should stop mollycoddling them. The defence gets exposed time and time again and all he does is papers over cracks.

I don't even think Gabriel is terrible, but he needs help.
Yeah true enough. And we are not a good enough team to outscore the opposition in every match so there are times when we have to be 'conservative' and grind out the 1-0's and 2-1's instead of trying to be like Barcelona. It was a fantastic game today for the neutral and the armchair fans but at 2-0 we just needed to see out that half and pick them off in the 2nd half when they would have been chasing the game as time went on.
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Old 09-04-2016, 16:49
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We need a new manager, CB, striker at the very least)
We need a new owner if we want to succeed. Just getting a new manager will not change a thing. I agree we do need a new manager and Aw needs to go. A new manager coming in does not mean we are all of a sudden going to be world beaters. With this board another top 4 yes man will come in. Maybe the style of footie will change but the problems will remain. The club needs to be stripped from top to bottom before its problems are fixed.
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Old 09-04-2016, 19:17
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With City winning we're in danger of missing out on the Top 4 ourselves.
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Old 09-04-2016, 19:19
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Carroll should have been sent off for one of the fouls on Kos, but whats done is done.
Ha Ha Ha - what rubbish. If they can't deal with the likes of Carrol then there is no hope for winning the league anytime soon.
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Old 09-04-2016, 19:45
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With City winning we're in danger of missing out on the Top 4 ourselves.
Would need an almighty collapse Grim. If we can't get another 9-12 points from the remaining 6 games then quite frankly we don't deserve a top 4 spot.
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Old 09-04-2016, 20:12
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Would need an almighty collapse Grim. If we can't get another 9-12 points from the remaining 6 games then quite frankly we don't deserve a top 4 spot.
Well if Utd beat spudz than yeah it could be more intersting and pressure is back.
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Old 09-04-2016, 21:02
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Well if Utd beat spudz than yeah it could be more intersting and pressure is back.
I wouldn't be surprised if we end up a point closer to spuds and Leicester after tomorrow...
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Old 09-04-2016, 21:41
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Just want a manager with fresh ideas, tactics.

So infuriating to see the team look purplexed when Carroll was bossing it. He won't start every game, but will against us.....which frankly says it all.

The manager continues to pull wool over people's eyes and say the team have learnt, but these problems have existed for years. Same, silly errors. This team don't know how to control games, they just chase.

Wenger's running out of excuses. If he wants to stay, he has to radically do something different. But he won't. Can't see him signing a new contract with the fans incensed.
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Old 09-04-2016, 22:21
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Just want a manager with fresh ideas, tactics.

So infuriating to see the team look purplexed when Carroll was bossing it. He won't start every game, but will against us.....which frankly says it all.

The manager continues to pull wool over people's eyes and say the team have learnt, but these problems have existed for years. Same, silly errors. This team don't know how to control games, they just chase.

Wenger's running out of excuses. If he wants to stay, he has to radically do something different. But he won't. Can't see him signing a new contract with the fans incensed.
Not sure he is pulling the wool over anyone with a brain's eyes. We all know this season is done. Way i see it Wenger is panicking because he seea top is under threat. He knows the players know the title is beyond them but is scared they may not care and lose top 4. I agree about him not signing a new deal well not unless he has a brain transplant in the summer and becomes ambitious.
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Old 09-04-2016, 22:37
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With City winning we're in danger of missing out on the Top 4 ourselves.
Wouldn't be a bad thing. May force much needed changes. All the time we're getting a 4th place spot the money men are happy.
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