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Old 10-04-2016, 19:14
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Yeah, fair play to Leicester - great achievement
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Old 10-04-2016, 19:32
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Yes I agree, fantastic for Leicester. Who'd have thought it?

It's been a weird old season, Leicester doing so well, Chelsea getting rid of Jose and bringing up the rear so to speak, Utd still struggling, the Totts probably finishing above us But as you were for Arsenal, continuing to frustrate the hell out their fans, no sign of Wenger leaving and still managing to be in for a shout of 4th place trophy!
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Old 10-04-2016, 19:38
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Yeah, fair play to Leicester - great achievement
To my mind I doubt I'll see a more incredible achievement in football during my lifetime. You can argue that Leicester have been aided by the appalling performances of the 'big' clubs this season but what Ranieri is on the brink of doing is sensational and nothing short of fantasy. I lost count of the number of 'experts' tipping them for relegation at the beginning of the season.

I envy their fans to be honest and really hope they don't wobble at the last minute.
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Old 10-04-2016, 20:03
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Yes, well done to the Foxes. Just go on and finish off the job.
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Old 10-04-2016, 20:58
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Yes fair play to Leicester, they have amazed everyone (even their own fans) this season and on the verge of an incredible achievement. I hope they do it, they deserve it.
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Old 10-04-2016, 22:21
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Yes, I am hoping they go on to win the Premier League now it looks like Arsenal have missed out. It's been a while since a Midlands team won the League.
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Old 10-04-2016, 23:03
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It will be a one off though. A freak result that happens occasionally.
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Old 10-04-2016, 23:17
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Desire and bottle in abundance in the Leicester side after watching the highlights against Sunderland.

Two things massively lacking from the Arsenal players.

Their fans should feel proud.
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Old 10-04-2016, 23:35
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Desire and bottle in abundance in the Leicester side after watching the highlights against Sunderland.

Two things massively lacking from the Arsenal players.

Their fans should feel proud.
Add to that a manager who knows how to motivate, great leaders and fans soley behind them.
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Old 11-04-2016, 00:18
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It will be a one off though. A freak result that happens occasionally.
I think there lack of Euro/cup footy and no major injuries definately helped them but you can't ignore the results at man city and spuds etc
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Old 11-04-2016, 00:28
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They've been the most consistent side for the past two seasons.

Leicester prove that you don't need to spend big to do the unthinkable, teamwork matters. Compare that with Arsenal -- for seasons Wenger has assembled a team that relies on individual brilliance to see out games. Not cohesive enough.
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Old 11-04-2016, 07:33
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Leicester prove that you don't need to spend big to do the unthinkable, teamwork matters. Compare that with Arsenal -- for seasons Wenger has assembled a team that relies on individual brilliance to see out games. Not cohesive enough.
The irony is, of course, is that this is exactly what Wenger has been saying (but failing to achieve) for ten years or more. Then Ranieri comes into a club with far less resources and support and promptly proves that it can be done.

It's a fabulous achievement and one which puts Wengers many failures firmly in perspective ... and demonstrates how he has become nothing more than an average manager who cannot even make the most of resources at a level that Ranieri can only dream of.
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Old 11-04-2016, 07:38
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I feel sorry for Wenger. As an outsider, I rate him very highly and what he did to transform the culture when he came to Arsenal was incredible.

Anyway I reckon he could well go this summer. I said a few months ago that if you guys won the FA cup then he would and should ride off into the sunset after three in a row, unfortunately the first bit of that won't happen, but the second should do.
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Old 11-04-2016, 08:10
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I feel sorry for Wenger. As an outsider, I rate him very highly and what he did to transform the culture when he came to Arsenal was incredible.

Anyway I reckon he could well go this summer. I said a few months ago that if you guys won the FA cup then he would and should ride off into the sunset after three in a row, unfortunately the first bit of that won't happen, but the second should do.
Just out of interest, why do you feel sorry for a man trousering £8m a year for doing a mediocre job? If you want to rate him highly, fair enough, but 'feel sorry' for him? Makes no sense.

And no, if we had won a 3rd FA Cup, there'd have been more chance of me going to the moon than him packing it in.
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Old 11-04-2016, 08:15
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Just out of interest, why do you feel sorry for a man trousering £8m a year for doing a mediocre job? If you want to rate him highly, fair enough, but 'feel sorry' for him? Makes no sense.

And no, if we had won a 3rd FA Cup, there'd have been more chance of me going to the moon than him packing it in.
Because football has moved on, and he hasn't and he is being lampooned in some quarters and I have always respected what he has achieved and it's a shame his legacy at Arsenal is tarnished due to the lack of a league title in the last 10 years... You're right, there are plenty of other people who are more deserving of sympathy.
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Old 11-04-2016, 08:21
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Because football has moved on, and he hasn't and he is being lampooned in some quarters and I have always respected what he has achieved and it's a shame his legacy at Arsenal is tarnished due to the lack of a league title in the last 10 years... You're right, their are plenty of other people who are more deserving of sympathy.
Fair enough, good response

I think even the most hardened of the 'Wenger Out Brigade, of which I am one would agree with that. There was a time when I was bloody proud to call him our manager, but the fact he's stayed on far too long and as you say, football has moved on and he hasn't. Saying that, he won't be sacked (and I would hate it if that did happen), nor will he leave of his own accord - so Arsenal as a club, for the supporters anyway are in limbo until he decides the time is right.
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Old 11-04-2016, 08:27
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Fair enough, good response

I think even the most hardened of the 'Wenger Out Brigade, of which I am one would agree with that. There was a time when I was bloody proud to call him our manager, but the fact he's stayed on far too long and as you say, football has moved on and he hasn't. Saying that, he won't be sacked (and I would hate it if that did happen), nor will he leave of his own accord - so Arsenal as a club, for the supporters anyway are in limbo until he decides the time is right.
I suppose lack of realistic credible candidates at the mo, eases the pressure on the board to try and snap someone up before a rival does as well.
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Old 11-04-2016, 08:48
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I'd quite happily trade in the unbeaten season for another title since then or another crack at the CL final. In fact I would have preferred back to back titles than going unbeaten. Just saying like.
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Old 11-04-2016, 09:53
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I'd never do that. The Invincibles season is the kind of thing that only comes round once in a lifetime, if ever. I dont think it will ever be matched.
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Old 11-04-2016, 10:09
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Fair enough, good response

I think even the most hardened of the 'Wenger Out Brigade, of which I am one would agree with that. There was a time when I was bloody proud to call him our manager, but the fact he's stayed on far too long and as you say, football has moved on and he hasn't. Saying that, he won't be sacked (and I would hate it if that did happen), nor will he leave of his own accord - so Arsenal as a club, for the supporters anyway are in limbo until he decides the time is right.
As an outsider can I ask why? I get he has been a great servant of the club, but anyone from any fan base can see it's more or less the same story every season, imagine next season it's the same and the board decide to extend his contract.
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Old 11-04-2016, 13:25
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The irony is, of course, is that this is exactly what Wenger has been saying (but failing to achieve) for ten years or more. Then Ranieri comes into a club with far less resources and support and promptly proves that it can be done.

It's a fabulous achievement and one which puts Wengers many failures firmly in perspective ... and demonstrates how he has become nothing more than an average manager who cannot even make the most of resources at a level that Ranieri can only dream of.
Tbh had the likes of City and Chavs etc been on top of their game, than Lcfc would be nowhere near the title. So while them getting into the Cl is a great achievement for them i also think its been handed to them, like us but they took their chance.

As for Wenge it has been his obsession to beat the big spending teams, which has cost him. Too much stubborness to admit we can not beat them unless we spend. I feel for him in away. I mean had the Invincibles been a few years younger or the money men come in a few lears later we may have dominated for a few years. I feel he has never gotten iver this.

I still do not think he is average at all, I think if he cared about winning the league he would do what it takes to. He ambition is gone and this is the problem add too that arrogance and stubborness you have a disaster. He needs a change something that can get him to enjoy footie again. He just not a good fit for us anymore.
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Old 12-04-2016, 00:00
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Henry Winter attended the AST tonight (see Twitter feed) and has confirmed what most already know; that Wenger had sizeable cash to spend since the Emirates move yet chose not to spend it.
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Old 12-04-2016, 07:39
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I can see next season being really competitive at the top. City, Utd, Chelsea have to be better. Then there is Spurs who will be confident & Liverpool 2nd season with Klopp. Finally the Champions Leicester.
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Old 12-04-2016, 08:28
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As an outsider can I ask why? I get he has been a great servant of the club, but anyone from any fan base can see it's more or less the same story every season, imagine next season it's the same and the board decide to extend his contract.
Well, I'm not always that magnanamous, but as much as I really want to see him out of the club, he 'has' in the distant past done great things and to outright sack him would leave a bad taste in the mouth. But he really needs to go himself, which he won't of course!
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Old 12-04-2016, 08:29
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Henry Winter attended the AST tonight (see Twitter feed) and has confirmed what most already know; that Wenger had sizeable cash to spend since the Emirates move yet chose not to spend it.
I'm not surprised in the slightest.
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