DS Forums

 
 

Arsenal Supporters Thread (Part 16)


Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 24-04-2016, 16:31
SpiderMan 83
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Down Saaf
Posts: 10,373
As ever, we hit 70 minutes before Arsene remembers he's got subsitutes to use. The utterly ineffective Giroud replaced with the utterly ineffective Walcott, but at least Welbeck's on the pitch too.
Walcott played like his Arsenal career is coming to an end. I deffo think him and Ox are gone in the summer.
SpiderMan 83 is offline   Reply With Quote
Please sign in or register to remove this advertisement.
Old 24-04-2016, 16:51
DavidT
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: North Devon
Posts: 12,637
Utterly tedious end to the season. Although to be fair we've played like this most of the season.
DavidT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-04-2016, 17:10
Belligerence
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Ghosts Forge
Posts: 38,994
It's futile to assess where it went wrong for Arsenal. Am I surprised? Not really, given the way they've been playing all season.

We keep posting the same things year after year.............Wenger does nothing to solve anything.

When Iwobi (a teen, who has only got a run since March) has been the highlight, you know there are problems.

I'm resigned to the fact that Wenger will stay one more season. Will he go all out in the summer and buy players? Will he do anything differently? I hope he does, but I'm expecting another anti-climax.

Fans need to stay away from the Emirates. Not worth your hard-earned cash to see a team underachieve and get away with it.
Belligerence is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-04-2016, 17:33
Goodwin
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: London
Posts: 5,251
Even Wenger looks and sounds utterly bored of it all

What I think needs to happen is for the club or Wenger or both in a joint statement to say that next season will be his last, officially. No contract extension or if there is then it's been turned down by the manager. At least that way the bad feeling that is hanging around the club presently will abate somewhat. Then we can start the new season with the fans onside mostly, knowing it will be his last and he can leave with our thanks. And in the meantime the club can seek out a new man for the following season.

As it is Wenger is dictating the future when he may not even be a part of it. It's a complete shambles. The sooner a statement is made, the better.
Goodwin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-04-2016, 19:59
Hayden
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Wenger Out
Posts: 28,876
Even Wenger looks and sounds utterly bored of it all

What I think needs to happen is for the club or Wenger or both in a joint statement to say that next season will be his last, officially. No contract extension or if there is then it's been turned down by the manager. At least that way the bad feeling that is hanging around the club presently will abate somewhat. Then we can start the new season with the fans onside mostly, knowing it will be his last and he can leave with our thanks. And in the meantime the club can seek out a new man for the following season.

As it is Wenger is dictating the future when he may not even be a part of it. It's a complete shambles. The sooner a statement is made, the better.
Great post.
For the time in I can't remember when I didn't bother this afternoon and it sounded like it was just as tepid as I expected it to be be.
I notice Wenger favourites Ramsey and Giroud have undeservedly wormed their way back into the side. Typical - Welbeck utterly average that he is- has been doing OK and scoring one or two -and he gets left out for somebody who hasn't scored since pussy was a kitten.
Hayden is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-04-2016, 20:23
satellite
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Apathyville
Posts: 6,057
We were at friends this afternoon (who are Gooners too), but the footie was on in the background, sound muted, none of us really watched it - apathy has well and truly set in.
satellite is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-04-2016, 20:40
Goodwin
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: London
Posts: 5,251
Last season after 38 games...W 22, D 9, L 7, F 71, A 36, GD 35, Pts 75.....Pos 3rd

This season with 3 games remaining..W 18, D 10, L 7, F 58, A 34, GD 24, Pts 64
Goodwin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-04-2016, 20:53
ihatemarmite
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,059
We were at friends this afternoon (who are Gooners too), but the footie was on in the background, sound muted, none of us really watched it - apathy has well and truly set in.
I watched the first half. At half time I went out for a swim. Checked my phone for the score afterwards and didn't exactly pass out with surprise.
I really no longer care. I've cancelled my Red member DD for next season.
ihatemarmite is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-04-2016, 20:57
grimtales1
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: St. Albans, UK, Team Wagner
Posts: 42,864
Last season after 38 games...W 22, D 9, L 7, F 71, A 36, GD 35, Pts 75.....Pos 3rd

This season with 3 games remaining..W 18, D 10, L 7, F 58, A 34, GD 24, Pts 64
That'll teach Wenger not to buy any outfield players or a world class strilker.
grimtales1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-04-2016, 23:26
SpiderMan 83
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Down Saaf
Posts: 10,373
That'll teach Wenger not to buy any outfield players or a world class strilker.
Yup. The guy has no excuses left and no where to hide. I just hope the next 2 home games more fans boycott.
SpiderMan 83 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-04-2016, 23:50
SpiderMan 83
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Down Saaf
Posts: 10,373
Even Wenger looks and sounds utterly bored of it all .
Probs just upset because it has dawned on him we may miss out on Cl. He is bricking it.
SpiderMan 83 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-04-2016, 00:07
Cissy Fairfax
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 7,349
Probs just upset because it has dawned on him we may miss out on Cl. He is bricking it.
They'll be fine. They know that they have the insurance of home to Villa as the last game. That is why they only drew today.

They will have worked out long ago, that to get 4th and not 3rd or 5th, that from the Norwich and Man City matches they will likely need one win and a take it easy, no effort game in the other.
Cissy Fairfax is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-04-2016, 01:14
grimtales1
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: St. Albans, UK, Team Wagner
Posts: 42,864
OK maybe we get fourth, but what if City and Pool win their respective cups? We miss out. 3rd or even 4th is not in our hands, especially the way we are playing.
grimtales1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-04-2016, 08:04
Goodwin
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: London
Posts: 5,251
What will be will be Grim. No point in worrying what City or Liv may or may not win. For what it's worth, I think City will finish top 4 anyway so that part is covered.

Funny to hear the manager moan about Thursday-Sunday football. May have to get use to it. Then coming out with bs about energy levels dropping because they played Thursday. I'll say this for the guy, he's got an excuse for everything.
Goodwin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-04-2016, 08:20
satellite
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Apathyville
Posts: 6,057
What will be will be Grim. No point in worrying what City or Liv may or may not win. For what it's worth, I think City will finish top 4 anyway so that part is covered.

Funny to hear the manager moan about Thursday-Sunday football. May have to get use to it. Then coming out with bs about energy levels dropping because they played Thursday. I'll say this for the guy, he's got an excuse for everything.
He has. I fact I think they're all written in a little black book so he can trot them out as required. Let's face it, he's had enough practice recently. Maybe he can explain how the Totts are doing so well, with a squad costing half the price of ours and of course have played on a Thursday all season?
satellite is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-04-2016, 08:25
satellite
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Apathyville
Posts: 6,057
I watched the first half. At half time I went out for a swim. Checked my phone for the score afterwards and didn't exactly pass out with surprise.
I really no longer care. I've cancelled my Red member DD for next season.
Good for you - the only way it's going to hurt them is to stay away. If everyone did it (including my OH, who won't let his ST go in case a miracle occurs and we appoint a decent manager) they'd soon get fed up to playing to a half empty stadium.

I cancelled mine last season and my younger sons too.
satellite is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-04-2016, 08:55
sotek
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 3,200
Funny to hear the manager moan about Thursday-Sunday football. May have to get use to it. Then coming out with bs about energy levels dropping because they played Thursday. I'll say this for the guy, he's got an excuse for everything.
You're right there is an excuse for everything ... even if it completely contradicts what he said before the game:

Arsene Wenger speaking before the Sunderland game and the fact we had just played on Thursday: “It’s no problem. In fact, there’s a very interesting study that has come out from Uefa that shows that the points taken by the teams three days later are not less than after four or five days. It’s the opposite and that is quite interesting.”

He has no shame anymore. He treats everyone but especially the fans and the press as idiots.
sotek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-04-2016, 09:56
NightHawk123
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: London
Posts: 4,908
As for persisting with Giroud. I guess with Benzena out Wenger is helping him get into the french team.
I was just going to post the same thought. There is no other reason for starting an out of form Giroud other than this reason. He was the worst player on the pitch in a decent performance against WBA and it carried on yesterday. Maybe France paid a bung for Giroud to be guaranteed games at the end of the season.

Wenger has always had his own agenda and France always came first over Arsenal.

Funny to hear the manager moan about Thursday-Sunday football. May have to get use to it. Then coming out with bs about energy levels dropping because they played Thursday. I'll say this for the guy, he's got an excuse for everything.
Did he really moan about that? Because pre match he was spouting info on a study done by UEFA saying there is no difference in results from having a 3 days to recover from games compared to more days.

He will use any excuse apart from blaming himself.

Even Wenger looks and sounds utterly bored of it all

What I think needs to happen is for the club or Wenger or both in a joint statement to say that next season will be his last, officially. No contract extension or if there is then it's been turned down by the manager. At least that way the bad feeling that is hanging around the club presently will abate somewhat. Then we can start the new season with the fans onside mostly, knowing it will be his last and he can leave with our thanks. And in the meantime the club can seek out a new man for the following season.

As it is Wenger is dictating the future when he may not even be a part of it. It's a complete shambles. The sooner a statement is made, the better.
Agree 100%. Maybe you should be Arsenal CEO Goodwin instead of the spineless Gazidis
NightHawk123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-04-2016, 10:17
robborocks
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 2,055
I couldn't believe he dropped Welbeck for Giroud! Crazy decision. Welbeck, Sanchez and Iwobi had gelled really well and ten he drops Welbeck!!

I know Welbeck isn't a world beater, but he looks like one next to Giroud and he was playing well and with confidence, so obviously the best thing to do is bench him for no reason.

For me it's another aspect of poor management, Wenger can't make the tough decisions, it showed at the start of the season with Ospina playing in the CL because Wenger wanted to be nice and still play him and it shows again now. There seems to be cases where he is just blind to see the faults, Giroud has been our leading striker for a good while now, imagine if we actually had a decent CF!!
robborocks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-04-2016, 10:19
robborocks
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 2,055
Even Wenger looks and sounds utterly bored of it all

What I think needs to happen is for the club or Wenger or both in a joint statement to say that next season will be his last, officially. No contract extension or if there is then it's been turned down by the manager. At least that way the bad feeling that is hanging around the club presently will abate somewhat. Then we can start the new season with the fans onside mostly, knowing it will be his last and he can leave with our thanks. And in the meantime the club can seek out a new man for the following season.

As it is Wenger is dictating the future when he may not even be a part of it. It's a complete shambles. The sooner a statement is made, the better.
Agree with this, great post.

What I think will happen is they will be desperate for next season us to win something or actually challenge for the league to justify extending his contract and another 3 years of decline.
robborocks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-04-2016, 11:10
DavidT
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: North Devon
Posts: 12,637
Can't see any way we will challenge for the league next season. The competition will be even stronger and what will we do in the transfer market? Nothing to make an overall difference. Doesn't make much difference anyway as the whole mentality at the club needs changing and it isn't going to happen.
DavidT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-04-2016, 13:57
Wouter
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Surrey
Posts: 1,907
Can't see any way we will challenge for the league next season. The competition will be even stronger and what will we do in the transfer market? Nothing to make an overall difference. Doesn't make much difference anyway as the whole mentality at the club needs changing and it isn't going to happen.
I'm not expecting anything but the same story for next season. Top4 and the odd good performance, but typically a rather turgid affair... It's clear that we'll never be ambitious with ODL and perhaps the current board is to blame for this.

All that us supporters/mugs can hope for is that the club's still in a reasonable position by the time Wenger decides to call it a day, and that the board appoints an ambitious replacement and allow him the same level of funds that ODL refuses to spend.
Wouter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-04-2016, 15:56
grimtales1
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: St. Albans, UK, Team Wagner
Posts: 42,864
All is well apparently as Vlad Dragomir has signed his first professional contract with the club.

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-arc...s-new-contract

In 1 or 2 years I bet he'll be wondering what the **** he was doing though
grimtales1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-04-2016, 16:01
DavidT
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: North Devon
Posts: 12,637
All is well apparently as Vlad Dragomir has signed his first professional contract with the club.

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-arc...s-new-contract

In 1 or 2 years I bet he'll be wondering what the **** he was doing though
Save buying anyone I suppose.
DavidT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25-04-2016, 16:02
SpiderMan 83
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Down Saaf
Posts: 10,373
The only good thing Wenger has done is that he will leave a good basis for the next man, even if we are in the El if that happens. It is about getting the right msn.

Martinez maybe?
SpiderMan 83 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply




 
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 17:03.