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Arsenal Supporters Thread (Part 16)
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Belligerence
23-05-2016
Originally Posted by fast left:
“wenger is the problem whoever we sign .”

Yes.

No chance we'll win the title with Wenger up against Klopp, Pep, Poch, Ranieri, Koeman, Bilic, Conte.....

Then again, being under the radar and performing well........it would just be like Arsenal.
NightHawk123
23-05-2016
Originally Posted by victor mel:
“According to reports Arsenal have paid way over the odds for this new guy double what he's worth.”

I'm just glad we're signing an outfield player this summer regardless of the price.

Also he looks like he's what we need to toughen our midfield.
DavidT
23-05-2016
No idea how reliable this is. Walcott to Leicester and Mahrez to us? http://www.90min.com/posts/3239464-l...ebook.com.html
Wouter
23-05-2016
Originally Posted by victor mel:
“According to reports Arsenal have paid way over the odds for this new guy double what he's worth.”

I'd rather that we pay over the odds than end up short (again...). From what I hear, it's a bit of experience and steely determination in the middle of the park, something we've lacked. Coq's a fine player, but I don't trust him enough to be 1st choice, it's telling that he was at Charlton not so long ago...

Next on the list for me would be a quality centre back and striker. Break the bank and get Morata, please Arsene.

There are apparently a number of defensive options available 'for free' in the form of Martin Cáceres and Nicolas N'Koulou (and Van der Wiel for RD). Other Bosmans that I wouldn't mind seeing are Miguel Veloso (linked regularly with us in the past) Tonny Vilhena (12-year old Feyenoord/Dutch national team player).
SpiderMan 83
23-05-2016
Originally Posted by victor mel:
“According to reports Arsenal have paid way over the odds for this new guy double what he's worth.”

Who is worth their fee these days? If you want a player, Pay the money or miss out. The club is finally doing what we wanted it too. No faffing about and getting the player.
Armi
23-05-2016
Originally Posted by Belligerence:
“Yes.

No chance we'll win the title with Wenger up against Klopp, Pep, Poch, Ranieri, Koeman, Bilic, Conte.....

Then again, being under the radar and performing well........it would just be like Arsenal.”

So if we do win the league it'll be despite Wenger being in charge?

Hilarious
DavidT
24-05-2016
Originally Posted by Armi:
“So if we do win the league it'll be despite Wenger being in charge?

Hilarious”

Your problem here of course is that you are the poster that gives AW credit for any victory but tells us he's not responsible for any defeat., ever. Best of both worlds for you really. AW can never be wrong for you.
ihatemarmite
24-05-2016
After one outing for England, Wilshere is banging on about far preferring to play in the middle rather than out wide as he does for Arsenal.
My heart sinks at the thought of him (a Wenger favourite) displacing either Ozil or Cazorla. remember: this is what Wenger did before Wilshere got crocked - Ozil was moved wide to accommodate Jack at no 10. Once Ozil was back in the middle in his favoured position, he got the record assists for a team that didn't set the league alight with goals.

Sun's out. Not a day to stress about Jack and his no 10 obsession.
Wouter
24-05-2016
Originally Posted by Armi:
“So if we do win the league it'll be despite Wenger being in charge?

Hilarious”

So we haven't won the league for yonks, is this in spite of ODL, or are there other reasons that we can pinpoint? And I do realise that we had to finance the stadium, but even during those 'lean' years we had plenty of cash in the bank, which he refused to spend despite the obvious shortfalls in key positions and our terrible injury record.

Everyone wants to see Wenger lift a trophies, but let's be honest and face the fact that apart from two FA Cups recently, we've not exactly challenged much this past decade. This year, we ended up 2nd but in points terms, we've regressed compared to the season before. We should have walked the league this past year and we didn't, apart from that, we couldn't even beat Watford in the FA Cup to try and make it three in a row.
ihatemarmite
24-05-2016
I can't believe Wenger would be decisive and quick enough or pay enough to get Morata.
I feel conflicted though as I quite like the idea of Juventus keeping him and challenging the Usual Suspects for the CL as am tired of the same old faces (Juve nearly beat Bayern and probably should have this year) and we won't be challenging for it! The reason he's not scored that many is that Mandzukic plays as lone striker, supported by the superb Dybala.
But he's an outstanding young striker, tall, fast and very skilful.
If Wenger is interested, he'll not be able to hesitate and will have to pay what RM want.

I think he'll sign Gignac instead (OMG emoticon?). No-one I've spoken to in France can quite understand why Deschamps has picked him over Sevilla's Gameiro, who's never going to be world class but gives everything every game and is a far better player. Gignac is like a worse version of Giroud. Lamppost.
Wouter
24-05-2016
Originally Posted by ihatemarmite:
“I can't believe Wenger would be decisive and quick enough or pay enough to get Morata.
I feel conflicted though as I quite like the idea of Juventus keeping him and challenging the Usual Suspects for the CL as am tired of the same old faces (Juve nearly beat Bayern and probably should have this year) and we won't be challenging for it! The reason he's not scored that many is that Mandzukic plays as lone striker, supported by the superb Dybala.
But he's an outstanding young striker, tall, fast and very skilful.
If Wenger is interested, he'll not be able to hesitate and will have to pay what RM want.”

Screw Juve challenging, if we get Morata it may well be us that challenge for a change! I think that RM have a buy back/first option, correct? That may well complicate matters, or make it more expensive as RM will simply trigger the clause when we bid and sell him on to us at a profit. Would love seeing him play for us though and hopefully, ODL is indeed interested and gets his chequebook out.

Originally Posted by ihatemarmite:
“I think he'll sign Gignac instead (OMG emoticon?). No-one I've spoken to in France can quite understand why Deschamps has picked him over Sevilla's Gameiro, who's never going to be world class but gives everything every game and is a far better player. Gignac is like a worse version of Giroud. Lamppost.”

I'd be disappointed if we sign a 30 year old striker that isn't all that and on huge wages and like you say, not an improvement. Would I be surprised?? No...
sotek
25-05-2016
There seems to be increasing speculation that Kante has rejected a new offer at Leicester in favour of a move to ourselves! As much as the team still needs attention in other areas, if that happens alongside the Xhaka deal, I think it's safe to say the team will have been hugely strengthened.

Still need a world class striker though.
grimtales1
25-05-2016
Originally Posted by Wouter:
“I'd rather that we pay over the odds than end up short (again...). From what I hear, it's a bit of experience and steely determination in the middle of the park, something we've lacked. Coq's a fine player, but I don't trust him enough to be 1st choice, it's telling that he was at Charlton not so long ago...

Next on the list for me would be a quality centre back and striker. Break the bank and get Morata, please Arsene.

There are apparently a number of defensive options available 'for free' in the form of Martin Cáceres and Nicolas N'Koulou (and Van der Wiel for RD). Other Bosmans that I wouldn't mind seeing are Miguel Veloso (linked regularly with us in the past) Tonny Vilhena (12-year old Feyenoord/Dutch national team player).”

Could be some time before we see him play for us then
Wouter
25-05-2016
Originally Posted by grimtales1:
“Could be some time before we see him play for us then ”

You know what they say, if you're good enough, you're old enough!

Of course, it should be 21 years old, worth a punt as squad player although I'd prefer someone like Bazoer or Kante if we are to sign another midfielder. A good striker is more of a priority though, not sure it's been mentioned yet...
NightHawk123
25-05-2016
Finally the Xhaka signing as been officially confirmed!

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-arc...h-granit-xhaka

#WelcomeXhaka

Nice to see us doing business early for a change and pleasantly surprised to hear he captained Gladbach for the past 2 seasons which will hopefully help next season.
grimtales1
25-05-2016
Originally Posted by DavidT:
“No idea how reliable this is. Walcott to Leicester and Mahrez to us? http://www.90min.com/posts/3239464-l...ebook.com.html”

I cant see that happening, tbh
DavidT
25-05-2016
Originally Posted by NightHawk123:
“Finally the Xhaka signing as been officially confirmed!

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-arc...h-granit-xhaka

#WelcomeXhaka

Nice to see us doing business early for a change and pleasantly surprised to hear he captained Gladbach for the past 2 seasons which will hopefully help next season.”

As long as it doesn't stop there.
NightHawk123
25-05-2016
Originally Posted by DavidT:
“As long as it doesn't stop there.”

Top striker, CB and Kante would be a good summer.
willrelf92
25-05-2016
Glad we've got Xhaka, great start to our summer transfer dealings. Next up is a world class striker and we also need a better centre back to partner Koscielny.
DavidT
25-05-2016
Hope I'm wrong but I don't see the striker happening, possibly a back up at best.
Elyan
25-05-2016
Speaking to a German colleagues of mine about Xhaka.

They say he is a tough central midfielder, who can also play football. Apparently he's had a bit of a disciplinary problem until only recently. Yellow and red cards being fluttered in his direction week in and week out. But I think you get cards more easily in Germany than here.

Good signing these guys reckon.
Wouter
25-05-2016
Originally Posted by DavidT:
“Hope I'm wrong but I don't see the striker happening, possibly a back up at best.”

Morata rumours gathering pace. Could it happen???
rhynoGB
25-05-2016
Originally Posted by Wouter:
“Morata rumours gathering pace. Could it happen???”

Wenger knows he has to deliver to get a new contract. Expect a couple more signings. Arsenal finish 3rd, win the League Cup, Champions League Semi's & the board are happy. Shiny new 3 year contract.
Season after it's the same old because he doesn't have to try as hard.
TheSloth
25-05-2016
Originally Posted by Wouter:
“Morata rumours gathering pace. Could it happen???”

Doesn't this happen every early summer? When do your season tickets go on sale?
Goodwin
25-05-2016
Arsenal become first club to top £100m mark in Premier League payments....

https://www.theguardian.com/football...premier-league
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