We're being lied to. The sooner Wenger, Gazidis and Kroenke leave the club the better.

The whole point of moving from Highbury to the Emirates was to compete with the biggest clubs in the world and yet 10 years on, we're still on the same page saying we can't compete!

The fans are being taken for mugs and yet there are still AKBs out there still supporting the manager and the board.

Meanwhile I love this tweet regarding double winners Juventus' transfer window: https://twitter.com/ArsenalSince86/s...rc=twsrc%5Etfw

Good God this is all so depressing, but sadly all too predictable. I come into this thread every day in the vain hope that there is something positive happening, but no. I should know better by now. I've a feeling this thread will be far more entertaining this coming season than anything happening at Emirates Towers...sigh.

Danny Fizzman must be spinning in his grave at the state of the club. Ivan has been banging this we can not compete drum for a few years now. It is so embaressing, the currwn regime all need to move on.

until we get one over all owner only then things will move on. Both share holders fighting has allowed Aw and Ivan to run the club the wrong way.

That is simply not going to happen. Ambition has taken a back-seat to what's cosy. I genuinely feel this will be the season that we fall out of the top four and there have been so many warning signs.

Yes, me too. However with Arsene being his usual ineffective self in the transfer market and these latest comments of Gazidis I think a corner has been turned. Can't see anything but an angry and abusive crowd from the outset and, you know what, they deserve it.

There should be a revolt let alone protests next season.

The thing is, even if Wenger is the one being restrained from spending big (which I don't really buy) the club was prepared to invest well over £30m on Vardy just a few weeks ago. Presumably that money hasn't just disappeared so why the hell hasn't Arsene found a replacement yet? Even if we're not willing as a club to compete for the big names there is still a hell of a lot a good manager can do with £30m to reinforce a squad desperately in need of fresh names and inspiration. Instead, as always, he sits on his hands and does nothing.

I used to think we could do a lot worse than Kroenke who, at least, appeared to operate a hands off policy. I accept now he needs to go but, make no mistake, the rot starts with Arsene. Whether he is under spending constraints or not he has a huge budget to work with, good players in the squad (who probably won't be around for very much longer the way things are going) and I remain convinced there are any number of managers in football who could do a far better job with those resources.

As I said, I think this is going to be a long and unpleasant season for us fans. I'm going to get a small amount of comfort from the chickens coming home to roost for Arsene though.

In some ways I worry more about Kroenke than Wenger. Wenger will be gone before too long. My worry is Kroenke using the Arsenal cash cow for everything and leeching more and more from it. I worry where that might end.

Well it is out of Wengers hands according to Ivan we can not compete. End of the day it is pointless wondering what goes on with transfers, becauase we will never really know. The club lies so much i do not even think they know what is true.

Only think Wenger can really and knowningly be judged on is the footballing side of things. And has failed massively.

I guess once the window is shut and the squad is the same. Id hate to be at the next home game. It is going to hit the fan. Imo Aw will probs be gone by Dec-Jan if top 4 is really out of reache.

Kroenke does similar things with his American franchises. I don’t know how they react to him over there? His business model seems to be all about making money for himself with no interest in winning things. A few months ago AW said Kroenke was “hugely ambitious”, well not much evidence of that. There’s so much stuff said that cannot be substantiated and as you say you can’t tell who, if anyone, is telling the truth.

I can’t see the fans not reacting to this if we don’t make more transfers. We’ve been treading water for ages and the others are catching up Kroenke of course ignores the fans. Gazidis is just a waste of space.

http://footytweets.com/arsenal/news/321742

Ivan saying we need to win big trophies, we are desperate and under preassure to. So we want to win trophies we just do not do anything in our power to make it happen. I really think no one in the club knows what is what. Just waiting to Aw says in the next few days "We can compete finacially, etc"

It is like none of these people talk to each other or the PR Machine is rubbush.

all this we can not spend is a excuse if we do not sign anyone else.

The only comfort I can give you is that other than a few million every year (which, it sounds offensive to say, is nothing given the scale of our finances) he has operated very much hands off and left the funds with the club. Other chairman have done (and are still doing) much worse and yet those clubs still seem to be capable of spending big ... United I'm looking at you.

Who knows what the future will bring but based on his past behaviour, we couldn't have really asked for much more in terms of him not using the club as a cash cow.

Ivan making excuses........the cheek!


That's one of the biggest issues I have. Do you trust Kroenke and Ivan to make the right appointment? I actually think the successor to Wenger will have an even tougher job than Moyes at United.

Arsenal's ambition died when they moved to the Emirates. They built a stadium and gave up. It led to Dein leaving and distorted Wenger's management. There have been some good times since 2006, but the club has been geared towards hoarding money instead of strengthening. Dear Leader said last year he's not fussed about trophies anymore, so what the hell drives him??

Sure, Wenger has been dealt bad cards. No one foresaw City or Chelsea's takeovers, for instance. He built a really good young side which broke up quickly, and since then he's been making the same basic errors but is too stubborn and stupid to care. The defence ALWAYS make mistakes, the midfielders ALWAYS do something stupid, the strikers ALWAYS miss chances! Boring!!!

Arsenal's first target is the top four, always has been and always will be. What pisses me off is the club do not in anyway make a genuine attempt to improve themselves.

As that Sp*rs manager once said, "there used to be a football club over there." It's a cash cow.......season ticket cuts won't matter in the short term given the money they rake in from TV. They topped the finances last year...........the only table Kroenke cares about!

The way things are shaping up with the squad though I think they are going to fall flat on their faces this year. With an increasingly angry crowd from the outset I think Arsene for one is going into his last season. I'm increasingly of the feeling he won't be with us by the end of it.

He'd have to win the league or CL to justify staying, simple as that. He signs a new deal and it says a lot about Stan's intentions.

Apparently Wenger's been trialling Coquelin as a CB........#InternalSolutions

As things stand, and with no new signings, because of injuries and players returning late to pre-season because of the Euros we might face Liverpool in our opening game with Chambers and Gabriel in the centre of defence and Walcott leading the line.

This in a season where Premier League clubs have been flooded with new money and quality signings are being made left and right.

Nighthawk said earlier there should be a revolt by fans. The way things are going a riot is more likely. Honestly in any sane club the manager would be sacked for preparations like this.

Another take on Gazidis's comments http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...s-ivan-gazidis

Mahrez move still on?

Would Stan care? With the new TV deal he can make more than enough profit finishing mid-table without needing the CL money.

Lol, that was actually a joke (albeit dark humour) from Arseblog this morning.

Personally, I'm torn.

I've been going regularly since 77 and have been a season ticket holder since about 1990. It's clear Wenger is going nowhere, till the end of the season. I found the whole protest movement last season pretty childish and stupid, along with the Arsenal Fan TV protagonists, amusing as they often are, though I seriously worry about Claude...

Arsene has done a huge amount for the club and apparently his biggest crimes, along with the board and owners, is a disinclination to (1) run Arsenal as something other than a football club; (2) to bring in dirty or dubious owners (Chelsea, PSG, City etc) (3) spend frivolously. Yes we have a big cash reserve; one we've built up over years. If he splooges £100m on Pogba, or £50m on Stones or £75m on Higuain where do the next purchases come from?

On the other hand, they've taken caution to a new extreme. Everyone but everyone knows we need a CF of true quality to play with Giroud yet we've repeatedly bottled it. We could have had Higain for maybe £35m years ago. We could have had Suarez, if we hadn't low balled another grand old club in Liverpool with that pound land crap; they were never going to take that. We needed a CB before BFG screwed his knee. Do we want Lacazette or not? If not why not Mahrez, get it done and make it clear that a CF remains on the radar, even if not in this window? Played right, we could have, or could still, achieve these targets.

You can't come out in the press each window as a Club and say a whole series of completely inconsistent, stupid and patronising things, as Gazidis has repeatedly done.

It's true that when we built the Emirates we didn't anticipate Oligarch football (no one did) but likewise, no one anticipated the riches the PL now brings. There are more players in required positions out there we could and should have taken a chance on and thats down to Wenger and the board.

I don't want nor expect Arsenal to become some other type of club, a soulless Chelsea or City, built on a pile of dodgy dough, slave labour and £50m quick fixes. We're not going to suddenly become Barca, or Real. But we can and must compete with the likes of Utd, Juve, Bayern, Milan etc.

If we can't do that this window and this season, these guys all need to take a long hard look at themselves.

No, it wasn't. That's the frightening thing.

https://www.theguardian.com/football...r-injury#img-1

I wondered if The Guardian had simply picked up and run with the Arseblog story but there are quotes from Coquelin himself in there confirming he's been playing there (as relayed by one of the clubs social media accounts).

Seriously mate, no, that's just incredibly shit journalism on the Guardian's part.

They've cut and pasted parts of the article without reading it properly; see linky below...

http://arseblog.com/2016/07/tour-stu...inked-gazidis/

As far as I'm aware Le Coq doesn't even have an active Instagram account.

It's actually depressing that broadsheet newspapers are putting less effort into their stories than Goal!?#%^+*!.com or whatever the **** it's called; talk about running with a snapchat snippet and making 2+ 2 into 99.

People keep mentioning cash reserves and above it's mentioned about spending most of it on one player.

It's normal for big transfers to be in stages so spending £200m doesn't mean £200m going out. Look at Utd, they are about to spend £100m on a player, but the cash coming straight back at them commercially will be beneficial.

£100m for Pogba is a waste of money

Wenger says he is looking to buy one more attacking player.