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Arsenal Supporters Thread (Part 16)
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Elyan
09-08-2016
Maybe we're not interested in Mahrez. Pesonally I don't think he's the sort of player Wenger is looking for. I think he is trying to get an out & out striker and a central defender, and that will be it.
robborocks
09-08-2016
Not too bothered about Mahrez not arriving, he's a good player but the money is needed much more in other areas of the pitch.

The trouble seems to be there is nothing going on, Wenger acknowledged by bidding for Vardy that we need a new CF but has done nothing since.

Mertesacker who was named captain is out injured for a substantial time and so is his back up, but again no action here.

The only things the club have in abundance are cash in the bank and arrogance, the arrogance to lie to fans every year, the arrogance to claim 'we tried' when nothing gets done, the arrogance to claim 'we can't compete' when moving stadiums was meant to make us compete.

Wenger is stale and old, I don't think he's lost his desire to win things, he just doesn't know how to win things any more. A new manager would knock the team in to shape and at least improve us tactically.
ustarion
09-08-2016
I can't understand how anybody who supports Arsenal can still support Wenger.
robborocks
09-08-2016
Regarding the CB issue, he has to put Chambers or Holding in there, not Monreal.

If he moves Monreal in to CB it will be a disaster, Monreal has been great at LB last season after a bit of a ropey start and his confidence has flourished, a move to CB would likely destroy his confidence again as that is not his natural position. Likewise sticking Coq back there would be an error too.

Chambers who we bought for a large fee should be put in there, he hasn't been great, but he hasn't been given the chance to be great. Send him out with the message of 'make this role yours' and see what he can do.
Get Den Watts
09-08-2016
Originally Posted by robborocks:
“Regarding the CB issue, he has to put Chambers or Holding in there, not Monreal.

If he moves Monreal in to CB it will be a disaster, Monreal has been great at LB last season after a bit of a ropey start and his confidence has flourished, a move to CB would likely destroy his confidence again as that is not his natural position. Likewise sticking Coq back there would be an error too.

Chambers who we bought for a large fee should be put in there, he hasn't been great, but he hasn't been given the chance to be great. Send him out with the message of 'make this role yours' and see what he can do.”

When he played there against Anderlecht he was all over the show and gave away a penalty as we threw away a 3-0 lead.

I agree about Chambers too. We paid a lot of money for that kid and at the moment it seems he's going the way of so many of the "British core".
Hayden
09-08-2016
Originally Posted by ustarion:
“I can't understand how anybody who supports Arsenal can still support Wenger.”

Neither can I - I'm really struggling to care less about this season.
The script is already written and it's beyond boring.
Elyan
10-08-2016
Originally Posted by ustarion:
“I can't understand how anybody who supports Arsenal can still support Wenger.”

Wenger supporters could throw that one at his detractors - if they wanted to be childish.
Wouter
10-08-2016
Being linked with Bony now. I suppose that this was inevitable, as he's one of the few available strikers withing a reasonable price range. At least he's got experience and a track record, but is he really an upgrade?

Personally, my choice now that the likes of Higuain and Morata aren't in the frame anymore would be Icardi, similar goal record, probably available at a similar price range but younger.

Hopefully, Mustafi will also be added. We're now very short and I'm surprised Kos hasn't yet been involved in the team much but then again, he's had a busy summer.

We need a couple of quality additions, even ODL seems to think that, as he tried to sign Vardy. It's perfectly reasonable and understandable that the dithering is frustrating; we have plenty of cash reserves to use, contrary to some of the comments made. We start in 5 days with a tricky tie and I'm dreading it, tbh. Pool's intense pressing etc can be a recipe for disaster against a young and inexperienced defence.
Goodwin
10-08-2016
Wenger just been speaking on 5 Live at the PL launch in Islington. Was asked about transfers in general...blah blah. Then asked if he was looking to bring in a central defender. He said yes but also saying he wants to give the younger players a chance too. He went on to say that it depends on how this season pans out and to whether he will stay on beyond this coming season.

For what it's worth, I believe he may well bring in a defender but that's all. Striker wise, I don't see anything happening. I think he will go with what he's got.
SpiderMan 83
10-08-2016
Originally Posted by robborocks:
“Mertesacker who was named captain”

He actually has not. Wenger has not even picked one which is shocking in its self
SpiderMan 83
10-08-2016
Originally Posted by ustarion:
“I can't understand how anybody who supports Arsenal can still support Wenger.”

It is fine to want him out but on match days we need to get behind the team regardless. Those that love him wil, just because we want him gone does not mean others can not back him.
Hayden
10-08-2016
As much as it pains me to say it, for long term good I don't think it would hurt to lose a few games and get off to a bad start.
Might get rid of the old buffoon once and for all if we're nowhere near by Christmas - otherwise we're just stuck in perennial groundhog day.
sotek
10-08-2016
Originally Posted by Hayden:
“As much as it pains me to say it, for long term good I don't think it would hurt to lose a few games and get off to a bad start.
Might get rid of the old buffoon once and for all if we're nowhere near by Christmas - otherwise we're just stuck in perennial groundhog day.”

I've always thought that would be the way to get rid of him. His ego will not stand the justified criticism from the stands if that happens. I don't really care much about this coming season thanks to Wenger still being involved but will quite enjoy his downfall when it happens. Think it's likely to be sooner rather than later to be honest. I think this season his luck is going to run out.
Elyan
10-08-2016
No matter who we have had in charge (even if I moaned about them) during my 45 years following Arsenal, I have always been behind the team, wishing for a win in every single game.

Never heard any fans that I know wishing for losses. Well, until just now of course.
SpiderMan 83
10-08-2016
The fact Wenger says he will see how the season goes before he sorts out his future. Shows that he fails to get top 4 he will be gone.
ustarion
10-08-2016
Originally Posted by Elyan:
“Wenger supporters could throw that one at his detractors - if they wanted to be childish.”

Only if they could properly explain how we have made progress in the last 5 years.
Elyan
10-08-2016
Originally Posted by ustarion:
“Only if they could properly explain how we have made progress in the last 5 years.”

There's no excuse for either side saying it.

It's immature and silly.
DavidT
10-08-2016
Talk of the Mahrez deal being back on. £35m offer apparently.
SpiderMan 83
10-08-2016
Originally Posted by sotek:
“I've always thought that would be the way to get rid of him. His ego will not stand the justified criticism from the stands if that happens. I don't really care much about this coming season thanks to Wenger still being involved but will quite enjoy his downfall when it happens. Think it's likely to be sooner rather than later to be honest. I think this season his luck is going to run out.”

Wenger will only go once we go out of the top 4. He does not care about what fans think? As we do not pay him we are irrevant. Fans booing will not do much as thay protest showed. Too many fans still like him.

As for the downfall, not sure it will be enjoyable at all. It will be sad the way he has gone.
yakutz
10-08-2016
Still really want Mahrez, not sure how anyone can see we don't really need him. Unless you want another year of Walcott, Ox, or Ramsey on the right wing.
Marti S
10-08-2016
Originally Posted by DavidT:
“Talk of the Mahrez deal being back on. £35m offer apparently.”

Not a serious offer then, just a punt to say they tried
DavidT
10-08-2016
Originally Posted by Marti S:
“Not a serious offer then, just a punt to say they tried”

Well it was from 90mins so not a particularly reliable source to start with.
ustarion
10-08-2016
Originally Posted by Elyan:
“There's no excuse for either side saying it.

It's immature and silly.”

Notice the lack of answer. Not immature or silly at all. It is an observation - some will agree, some will disagree.

It really baffles me that anybody could support a manager whose team finished 10 points behind Leicester who were 1000-1 shots for winning the title and has done absolutely nothing about it. NOTHING.
Belligerence
10-08-2016
Mahrez would be a welcome addition to any team, but it's all paper talk.

The striker 'issue' is only an issue if Wenger believes there is one. He doesn't. He won't sell Walcott and he's happy with donkey Giroud going missing in chunks of a season.

I'm not even pissed off about the transfer business. It's the same old, predictable tactics which will be the club's downfall. Nothing to suggest we'll see improvements. The defence can't defend for toffee, the midfielders are so wasteful and don't get me started on the attack! There is always a moment in the season when the players stutter and just can't lift themselves.

The squad is good enough for top four football, but I frankly can't wait until that manager fecks off. Just thinking about how the season will pan out is frustrating. Do f all in the Champions League, do f all in the cups, do f all in the league.........Wenger says he'll learn from his mistakes, while fans pay hundreds of pounds for season tickets........rinse and repeat.

I really want to be proven wrong, but I can't see anything changing.
satellite
10-08-2016
Originally Posted by Hayden:
“As much as it pains me to say it, for long term good I don't think it would hurt to lose a few games and get off to a bad start.
Might get rid of the old buffoon once and for all if we're nowhere near by Christmas - otherwise we're just stuck in perennial groundhog day.”

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