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He said we needed a striker at the end of last season. He hasn't found one.
He said we needed a central defender in the middle of July. He hasn't found one. Anyone want to tell me what he has done during the last three months. As you say, I don't care how it ends. He has wasted all of his goodwill with me. Sanchez and Ozil will probs leave next season, infact we may see a few depatures tbh. |
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The manager for whatever reason has real issues when it comes to transfers. I mean incoming transfers. I do know it's not just about adding to the squad but how is it that other managers don't have the same problem? I don't mean the Man City's and Chelsea's but the middle tier clubs like Southampton, Stoke City etc manage to do their business before the new season starts. We are being handicapped by a manager like no other club. If he doesn't care for the high prices or agents and methods then he needs to leave and manage a national team or just retire, I don't care. It's not his money but he's treating it like it is. He puts his own spin on it as always to make it sound he's taking the moral high ground with his fancy sound bites. Trying to cover up his own deficiencies is the real reason.
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#6528 |
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This football club is being managed by an idiot for a manager. An arrogant know it all idiot at that. He said pretty much the same thing last term after the home defeat v West Ham. Undercooked, players not ready etc etc. It's a 38 game season not 37. How is that other players that played in the Euro's managed to turn out this weekend without any ill effects?
Do we have a recognised penalty taker or is it who just 'fancies it'? I do believe he is sackable actually. I am past caring how it ends for him now. I have zero sympathy for him. He's brought all of this upon himself. His dithering and total refusal to strengthen. He's on a kings ransom of a wage. Surely he can see the irony of it! I don't care about what he's done in the past...it's now that counts not bloody 12 years ago. The club needs to grow a pair and ensure that he will be gone next summer. WTF is the pre-season for? To prepare and fine tune the team to start the new season. Did he think we start next week!! We were physically short....aaaghhhh give me strength. Just do not understand how his mind works. Guess he prons thinking we will get injuries and this is away of keeping players fit. Oh well one game down, on to the next one. It is better to know where we are than peak to early. |
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#6529 |
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The manager for whatever reason has real issues when it comes to transfers. I mean incoming transfers. I do know it's not just about adding to the squad but how is it that other managers don't have the same problem? I don't mean the Man City's and Chelsea's but the middle tier clubs like Southampton, Stoke City etc manage to do their business before the new season starts. We are being handicapped by a manager like no other club. If he doesn't care for the high prices or agents and methods then he needs to leave and manage a national team or just retire, I don't care. It's not his money but he's treating it like it is. He puts his own spin on it as always to make it sound he's taking the moral high ground with his fancy sound bites. Trying to cover up his own deficiencies is the real reason.
I guess depending on the next manager we will see what players will come. We will not suddenly splash big money on players cause AW leaves as Ivan says we can not competer etc. Wenger needs to go, But lets get this straight it will not automatically solve the problem. It might help to fix it. The club is in a S##T from top to bottom. Until the top is sorted out not much will change imho. When you have two shareholders fighting for power what happens to the running of the club? It gets run by people who should not. Until we get one overall owner with ambitions nothing will change. |
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#6530 |
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Other clubs do their business easy because the players they go for know what the club us about. If you go to a Stoke, Palace or Everton you know you will finnish midtable most of the time. If you are a top player who you want to go to Arsenal? We are not a big draw as most think we are. If it was us not in the CL like Utd, big signings would not come. Had it not been for Cl the likes of Sanchez, Ozil etc would be nowhere near.
I guess depending on the next manager we will see what players will come. We will not suddenly splash big money on players cause AW leaves as Ivan says we can not competer etc. |
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I am not entirely confident in Cech either. He's on the wane.
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The manager for whatever reason has real issues when it comes to transfers. I mean incoming transfers. I do know it's not just about adding to the squad but how is it that other managers don't have the same problem? I don't mean the Man City's and Chelsea's but the middle tier clubs like Southampton, Stoke City etc manage to do their business before the new season starts. We are being handicapped by a manager like no other club. If he doesn't care for the high prices or agents and methods then he needs to leave and manage a national team or just retire, I don't care. It's not his money but he's treating it like it is. He puts his own spin on it as always to make it sound he's taking the moral high ground with his fancy sound bites. Trying to cover up his own deficiencies is the real reason.
There was a story that he balked at Wiltord's asking price and refused to pay up. Dein decided 'to hell with it' and pushed the deal through. Then there was the time he identified Reyes, but needed 40-something scouting missions/reports before he greenlit the transfer. He's ineffective without Dein. There's no-one holding him to account, no-one getting the business done, no-one who he can turn to for advice. And it's meant he's lost all perspective, he does everything but manage the team properly. I don't know the ins and outs with Arsenal. So many unanswered questions. Is Wenger allowed to spend? Does he have a bonus clause in his contract for transfer profits? Why did the club leak info about Wenger's contract? What is Stan's true intentions? I would be astounded if Wenger signs a new deal. Even before today's result, I have no confidence in this team winning anything meaningful. Not ambitious enough. |
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"Unlucky.
Lacked a bit stability. Not every player could last 90 minutes. Working very hard to get one or two players in. Desperate, we're always desparate. 😂 At the back we lack a little bit maturity. We have the mental strength to deal with that (the boos) and bounce back." Heard it all before. |
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#6534 |
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I am not entirely confident in Cech either. He's on the wane.
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He naturally dithers.
There was a story that he balked at Wiltord's asking price and refused to pay up. Dein decided 'to hell with it' and pushed the deal through. Then there was the time he identified Reyes, but needed 40-something scouting missions/reports before he greenlit the transfer. He's ineffective without Dein. There's no-one holding him to account, no-one getting the business done, no-one who he can turn to for advice. And it's meant he's lost all perspective, he does everything but manage the team properly. I don't know the ins and outs with Arsenal. So many unanswered questions. Is Wenger allowed to spend? Does he have a bonus clause in his contract for transfer profits? Why did the club leak info about Wenger's contract? What is Stan's true intentions? I would be astounded if Wenger signs a new deal. Even before today's result, I have no confidence in this team winning anything meaningful. Not ambitious enough. Maybe Arsene does get a bonus ( not confirming anything). So is he about the money now? To me something stinks about the transfer policy and the running of this club. I just wished they told the fans what is what. Just be honest for a change then we all know where we stand. |
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Why isn't the club ready? No excuse. Arsene will be gone by Christmas
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He naturally dithers.
There was a story that he balked at Wiltord's asking price and refused to pay up. Dein decided 'to hell with it' and pushed the deal through. Then there was the time he identified Reyes, but needed 40-something scouting missions/reports before he greenlit the transfer. He's ineffective without Dein. There's no-one holding him to account, no-one getting the business done, no-one who he can turn to for advice. And it's meant he's lost all perspective, he does everything but manage the team properly. I don't know the ins and outs with Arsenal. So many unanswered questions. Is Wenger allowed to spend? Does he have a bonus clause in his contract for transfer profits? Why did the club leak info about Wenger's contract? What is Stan's true intentions? I would be astounded if Wenger signs a new deal. Even before today's result, I have no confidence in this team winning anything meaningful. Not ambitious enough. |
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#6538 |
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Yea he did not have a good game. Who do you bring in who is a WC Keeper not many around really. Cech with a top back 4 should be ok.
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#6539 |
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Deffo something going on behind the scenes. Aw says we can compete, Ivan says no we can not. So why are they not on the same paige on this..
He knows what Arsene says goes, he knows he cannot do anything to change him and he knows full well that his dithering and indecision means further big transfers are unlikely. In that scenario you either say there are more than enough funds available and hang the manager out to dry ... or you come up with the limited resources rubbish to try and cover for your incompetent boss? That's how I read it; Ivan providing excuses for Arsene. Stan is so far removed he doesnt care less what they do provided the club remains profitable. |
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I am not entirely confident in Cech either. He's on the wane.
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#6541 |
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No to mention inexprience cost us and our players are not prepated. You could not make it up tbh.
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#6542 |
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I'm quite angry about the bit where he said some of the players couldn't last 90 minutes,. Why? didn't he now when the season started or something? There's zero excuse for that.
In other words he simply makes things up as he needs to. His words mean nothing. He doesn't have a clue what he is doing anymore. He looks and acts clueless. He has become a poor excuse for a manager. |
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#6543 |
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We are a shambles at the moment. Last week we were physically ready but this week we weren't. Tw**.
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#6544 |
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Why isn't the club ready? No excuse. Arsene will be gone by Christmas
He has disgraced himself. |
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We are a shambles at the moment. Last week we were physically ready but this week we weren't. Tw**.
Not many positives, apart from the fact that I couldn't see the capitulation as I was watching another bunch of jokers/clowns at the Edinburgh Fest. Was annoyed when I saw the 1-0 scoreline that I was missing it, but after their equaliser, I soon realised that it would probably be business as usual. Not many positives apart from the fact that we'll have the likes of Ozil and Kos back soon, and that we may dip into the player market. Mustafi and Lacazette please ODL, the latter scored a hattrick over the weekend. He'd have been better than Walnut, I feel. Good to see him and Ox score though, big season for them. |
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#6546 |
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"Inexperience cost us" - Oh FFS who's fault is that Arsene?
I get that he didnt really have any choice (Per and Gabriel injured, Kos not ready yet), but Holding is very young and was starting his first PL game in at the deep end when he's only just joined, with someone he'd never played with before. ![]() You couldnt make it up. Just like when we got bollocked 8-2 or whatever it was. |
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He said we needed a striker at the end of last season. He hasn't found one.
He said we needed a central defender in the middle of July. He hasn't found one. Anyone want to tell me what he has done during the last three months. As you say, I don't care how it ends. He has wasted all of his goodwill with me. The players have no ****ing clue what to do without the ball. Time and time again he said he knows how to solve it.........but doesn't. I honestly think he just makes it up as he goes along, there is no real 'tactical' plan. When he actually makes an effort to set them up properly, they still manage to **** it up.......and he has the cheek to blame luck! Maybe he should put the same effort in throughout the season! ![]() There's clearly some sort of power struggle going on at Arsenal. Wenger will not relinquish his position that easily. In the next few weeks be prepared for him to say 'you'll miss me when I'm gone' and 'do you know how much I've sacrificed for this club?' if results are really bad. Do the club want him to sign a new deal? I'm not so sure. Three years ago, certainly, now........Stan perhaps, but the board maybe not. People are starting to open their eyes. Myles Palmer hits the nail on the head, club's next signing should've been Pep. Arsenal need freshening up regardless. |
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The board aren't backing Wenger in the transfer market or a contract extension and it seems players are rejecting Arsenal until a new manager is in place.
Saying that the Mustafi deal should be tied up by the end of the week and Lacazette seems open to a move after his hattrick in the weekend. With Wenger in charge and say we miss out on the signings we need, it looks like another season we could write off really with all the other top teams strengthening. Looking like 4th place is the best we can hope for with the current squad we have. A new manager to change things up couldn't come soon enough. |
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Arseblog looks at where we are, and our current policy on transfers - worth a read:
http://arseblog.com/2016/08/arsenal-...me-home-roost/ |
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Arseblog looks at where we are, and our current policy on transfers - worth a read:
http://arseblog.com/2016/08/arsenal-...me-home-roost/ |
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