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2 more points than against Southampton at home last season.
The way some fans are going you'd have thought they wanted us to lose. Onwards and upwards. Perez gives us something different and will add variety to our attack. |
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The Sky Sports footy results announcer sounds like Tim Gudgin for some reason.
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Enough.
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Was that post directed at me?
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#6980 |
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2 more points than against Southampton at home last season.
The way some fans are going you'd have thought they wanted us to lose. Onwards and upwards. Perez gives us something different and will add variety to our attack. Anyway, a good win today against a good PL side. We had far more possession, and were much the better side. As you say, onwards and upwards. |
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#6981 |
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Anyway, a good win today against a good PL side. We had far more possession, and were much the better side. As you say, onwards and upwards.
The midfield balance was all wrong and Monreal still looks shaky at the back. Possession means nothing if you're not creating chances. Lots of work to do but at least we have a few players to come back into the side. |
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#6982 |
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They do! A few weeks back at least two 'fans' on here were openly stating that they wanted us to have a bad start. Incredible as that might seem, I'm afraid it's true.
Anyway, a good win today against a good PL side. We had far more possession, and were much the better side. As you say, onwards and upwards. Some fans did indeed wish us to have a bad start, sometimes the end justifies the means, if it had meant a new manager coming in who wanted to win things then that would have been worth it. Instead it's scrapping for fourth and bombing out of the CL, no ambition, just coasting. Having watched the Manchester derby yesterday, Man City will tear us apart, as will Man U more than likely. |
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#6983 |
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Some fans did indeed wish us to have a bad start, sometimes the end justifies the means, if it had meant a new manager coming in who wanted to win things then that would have been worth it. Instead it's scrapping for fourth and bombing out of the CL, no ambition, just coasting.
As for the final sentence, were we scrapping for fourth last season and the year before that? We may have been lucky to finish second and third respectively, but we certainly weren't in a scrap for fourth. I know Armi sometimes goes a bit far with his goading, but at the end of the day he is supporting Arsenal and wants us to win things. I don't always share his views but then I don't always share the views of the 'Wenger Out' side either. It can't be that hard to see both sides of the fence surely? Anyway, it was a lucky win yesterday and we weren't at our best but we got the 3 points and that's what counts. |
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#6984 |
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On the whole I agree with the opinion that we need a new manager - I think this should be his final year regardless of what happens over the course of the season. But surely we should just get behind the team regardless of our opinion on the manager?
As for the final sentence, were we scrapping for fourth last season and the year before that? We may have been lucky to finish second and third respectively, but we certainly weren't in a scrap for fourth. I know Armi sometimes goes a bit far with his goading, but at the end of the day he is supporting Arsenal and wants us to win things. I don't always share his views but then I don't always share the views of the 'Wenger Out' side either. It can't be that hard to see both sides of the fence surely? Anyway, it was a lucky win yesterday and we weren't at our best but we got the 3 points and that's what counts. Let's see where we end up once the team has gelled. |
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Having watched the Manchester derby yesterday, Man City will tear us apart, as will Man U more than likely.
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Very impressed with City yesterday especially the style of football. Guardiola wants all his players to be comfortable and positive on the ball. His philosophy would have been perfect for Arsenal.
Pep will storm this league if he gets his players to play as he wants them to. |
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Klopp, Guardiola, Hiddink, Ancelotti & Mourninho were all available at some point over the last year or so. Arsenal needed to take a risk.
Pep will storm this league if he gets his players to play as he wants them to. |
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Yeah Leicester Atletico Madrid and Borussia Dortmund really enjoyed that bottomless pit of money. Also Wenger and Arsenal roll in cash. Can't believe that money is still being used as an excuse
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I'm hoping somewhere along the line we can sort out the perineal issue of possession with no end product. I don't think that's players gelling as it's been going on for years. Effectively we are always a further point behind because our goal difference is always so inferior.
Still seems to me too many opposition teams know how to shut us down and in turn we are unable to do anything about it. It really is uncomfortably repetitive. I see Ozil was getting huge stick on Twitter for his performance yesterday. I thought for a change Ian Wright made a good point about Perez seemingly player as a winger than as a striker. I really do like Kos and his goal was worthy of a striker. There's something about him I wish some of our other players had. Finally I still have concerns about Cech. He really isn't performing at the level I expected. |
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Very impressed with City yesterday especially the style of football. Guardiola wants all his players to be comfortable and positive on the ball. His philosophy would have been perfect for Arsenal.
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Yeah Leicester Atletico Madrid and Borussia Dortmund really enjoyed that bottomless pit of money. Also Wenger and Arsenal roll in cash. Can't believe that money is still being used as an excuse
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Finally I still have concerns about Cech. He really isn't performing at the level I expected. |
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We're close to sorting out new contracts for Alexis and Ozil apparently - good news:
http://www.justarsenal.com/arsenal-c...ez-deals/65128 |
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#6994 |
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Yeah Leicester Atletico Madrid and Borussia Dortmund really enjoyed that bottomless pit of money. Also Wenger and Arsenal roll in cash. Can't believe that money is still being used as an excuse
And the facts are there for all to see. Man City blow us out of the water with their spending power. Of course we are are rich compared to some, but to say we have anywhere near as much of a transfer budget as Man City, or that having an apparently unlimited amount of money to spend doesn't put you apart from others is just silly really. |
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A freak result is an accident. The success of the three times mentioned did not come at the cause of an accident. They had a level of consistency we could only dream of. One of the teams achieved back to back titles followed by a champions league final. They achieved greatness despite being able to use the same financial excuses we do. Their reason for doing so they had what we didn’t. Tactically efficient ambitious managers who could get the best out the players at their disposal leading to the teams achieving over the odds domestically and in Europe.
As you say the facts are there for all to see, we’ve been knocked out of Europe in the same stage for six consecutive years with our league form enduring a similar story every year because we don’t have that, we have someone who doesn’t learn from their mistakes. |
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Southampton are a good team. The PL is full of good teams who are more than capable of giving anyone a good game. We shouldn't expect to steamroller everyone.
And on the topic of money ^^ - come on, of course having all that money will be a massive, massive help. The combination of that and Guardiola will win City the league this year. |
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A freak result is an accident. The success of the three times mentioned did not come at the cause of an accident. They had a level of consistency we could only dream of. One of the teams achieved back to back titles followed by a champions league final. They achieved greatness despite being able to use the same financial excuses we do. Their reason for doing so they had what we didn’t. Tactically efficient ambitious managers who could get the best out the players at their disposal leading to the teams achieving over the odds domestically and in Europe.
As you say the facts are there for all to see, we’ve been knocked out of Europe in the same stage for six consecutive years with our league form enduring a similar story every year because we don’t have that, we have someone who doesn’t learn from their mistakes. The money excuse is easy to hid behind until it is pointed out that other teams have achieved more with far less than we have, then it's a 'freak result'. |
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Agree with all of this.
The money excuse is easy to hid behind until it is pointed out that other teams have achieved more with far less than we have, then it's a 'freak result'. In the vast majority of cases, those who spend the most money will win the most trophies. |
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We're close to sorting out new contracts for Alexis and Ozil apparently - good news:
http://www.justarsenal.com/arsenal-c...ez-deals/65128 Agree on Cech, looks a bit off colour. I hope a blip. Buffon et al are much older than him. Palace signing French national reserve keeper Mandanda was an excellent signing. Is Koscielny fit for the PSG game? His face looks bad. |
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Cech just seems to be somewhat slow and ponderous. He goes down very slowly and his positioning isn't great. Some other forums call him Peter the Plank. I don't like that but I understand the angle.
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