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If the only way to get Champions league football in England would be to win the premier league i guarantee that we would win the league every single year
Kroenke and the board won't sack Wenger. A manager who gets his team into the Champions League every season the cheapest way possible. He will leave when he feels like. Last night shouldn't have been a wake up call. The warning signs have been there for years. Scrapping through the group stages, overtaking Spurs on the final day, poor discipline and focus in the big games. This club is nowhere near winning the Champions League than it was when Wenger joined. Nothing will happen because this team will go on a run, as per. Two more years of this carp, joy! |
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#1852 |
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Ok... I have supported and defended Wenger and his often odd decisions on many occasions and have taken some stick for it in this thread, but I have to say that I draw the line at OSPINA! I believe even the most fanatical Wenger supporters simply despair at what he did last night. OSPINA?! Why?!
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I like Ospina but to play him last night when we simply had to win was ludicrous. It isnt only his fault though, I mean FFS if we've just equalised, dont do anything stupid and concede immediately at the other end! We should have calmed down a bit and THEN tried to press and possibly win.
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If the only way to get Champions league football in England would be to win the premier league i guarantee that we would win the league every single year
Until Cl is taken from us no one will listen. |
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I like Ospina but to play him last night when we simply had to win was ludicrous. It isnt only his fault though, I mean FFS if we've just equalised, dont do anything stupid and concede immediately at the other end! We should have calmed down a bit and THEN tried to press and possibly win.
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I like Ospina but to play him last night when we simply had to win was ludicrous. It isnt only his fault though, I mean FFS if we've just equalised, dont do anything stupid and concede immediately at the other end! We should have calmed down a bit and THEN tried to press and possibly win.
Generally, I always find it ridiculous when managers change the starting team for no apparent reason after they have won the previous game. It usually goes wrong. But to change the goalkeeper is just beyond ridiculous. |
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Wasn't it because of injury that Cech was benched?
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Wasn't it because of injury that Cech was benched?
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This is what happens when you lack leaders. No one from Stan, takes any responsibilty for anything. Which is why the manager and his team always look lost.
The end will only come if the board tire of him OR if the fans turn against him. I continue to believe his ego would not stand a stadium full of unhappy fans for very long. He might not be as impossible to shift as everyone believes. |
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But why would he change the goalkeeper anyway?! A goal keeper doesn't need resting and it disorientates the defence when you change the keeper. I just don't get it. Cech is a superb goalkeeper and has been good for Arsenal. Why on earth would Wenger change him?! I always thought Wenger's madness started when he benched Jens Lehmann. I couldn't understand it then and I simply cannot understand why Cech is not playing in the CL. It's completely nonsensical.
Generally, I always find it ridiculous when managers change the starting team for no apparent reason after they have won the previous game. It usually goes wrong. But to change the goalkeeper is just beyond ridiculous. |
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Wasn't Cech on the bench? If he is fit enough to be on the bench, why wouldn't he play?
Ospina is our 'cup keeper'. |
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Wasn't Cech on the bench? If he is fit enough to be on the bench, why wouldn't he play?
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You asked why Wenger didn't play Cech. I thought it was because of injury? He was on the bench last night.
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I'm as frustrated as you but, to be fair, as far as the playing side of the club goes the buck has to begin and end with Arsene. The prospect of the board interfering in any aspect of that really will be the beginning of the end. It is his leadership that is rotten and stale. I'm sure other managers would thrive in the same environment.
The end will only come if the board tire of him OR if the fans turn against him. I continue to believe his ego would not stand a stadium full of unhappy fans for very long. He might not be as impossible to shift as everyone believes. The likes of Hillwood created this mess, never should they let Aw have all this power. |
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Alexis seemed to be the only one who gave a shit last night.
I'm still hurting today and just generally pissed off
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I don't believe Cech was injured badly enough not to play if he was on the bench. Was he injured in Zagreb as well? Nonsense to have different goalkeepers for the league and for cups. It's just unsettling the team and asking for trouble. A goalkeeper like Cech should be 'untouchable' to use Jose's words. I'm not a fan of rotating players and changing a winning team anyway, but even in the most rotating team - the goalkeeper should never change unless he's injured/banned.
I feel sorry for Sanchez. It must be completely demoralising to do everything to create goals, if at the back they always let in more than he scores/creates! |
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Alexis seemed to be the only one who gave a shit last night.
I'm still hurting today and just generally pissed off ![]() Just qualifying to be there has caught up with us and rightly so. Maybe had more ambition we may not have ended up in pot 2. From When this group was drawn, Aw's ambition was to get 2nd in the group and it shows. Quote:
I feel sorry for Sanchez. It must be completely demoralising to do everything to create goals, if at the back they always let in more than he scores/creates!
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Khedira playing well for Juventus.
Yet according to ODL the players aren't out there. |
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Also interesting that both City and United are treating the CL seriously both playing their full strength teams. No rotation before the weekend unlike Arrogant Wenger.
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Yes but playing in the EL and CL are to different comps. So u can do it i the EL as some teams are not great.
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Those changes will contribute towards the champions league places being cut to three.
Then suddenly people will give a monkeys |
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Khedira playing well for Juventus.
Yet according to ODL the players aren't out there. |
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He was probably too expensive...
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Keane's bang on the money. Too soft.
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Also interesting that both City and United are treating the CL seriously both playing their full strength teams. No rotation before the weekend unlike Arrogant Wenger.
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Tbh Wenger may as well continue to play the same sort team in the Cl, Just focus on the league and be done.
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