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Arsenal Supporters Thread (Part 16)
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Wouter
20-10-2015
Originally Posted by NightHawk123:
“No doubt. He wouldn't have made the mistake that Ospina made so at least a draw in that game. It's not just his saves, his presence gives the defence more confidence and security.”

Indeed, proof of that tonight. Central defense was superb and gave the full backs the confidence to go forward!

If we do get through, it's despite ODL, not because!
DUNDEEBOY
20-10-2015
Originally Posted by grimtales1:
“Sky Sports just showed we were still bottom of our group - that cant be right can it? ”

Based on the head to head with Zagreb
grimtales1
20-10-2015
Originally Posted by Tiron:
“@__arsenalnews_:

Laurent Koscielny gets home and empties out his pockets:

Car keys
His phone
Wallet
And Robert Lewandowski

”

Haha
grimtales1
20-10-2015
Originally Posted by DUNDEEBOY:
“Based on the head to head with Zagreb”

Ah OK Thanks
Joey Boswell
20-10-2015
Great result for Arsenal tonight, hopefully United can follow you with a win tomorrow night.

Well done.
ihatemarmite
20-10-2015
great defending and have no doubt that we'd be in 2nd if Cech had played the first two, which he should have. It's not just his saves, it's his organisation of the defence and his calmness.
We had some luck tonight all right but what a great result.
Still think beating Olympiacos is going to be very tough though
Hope Ramsey hasn't got one of his long term injuries
Jamesp84
20-10-2015
As you know I'm not an Arsenal fan and normally don't want the other English sides in the CL to win but I was delighted you won that tonight, if only to piss off the anti-PL brigade and the 'Pep' fanboys.
Red November
20-10-2015
Originally Posted by ihatemarmite:
“Hope Ramsey hasn't got one of his long term injuries”

I'm not too fussed tbh.

One super season apart, he's been very average for us, and is lucky imo to get such a regular start.

OAC any day over him, or Walcott wide and Giroud up front.
satellite
20-10-2015
Just got home & see we've won 2-0! Excellent result - so in 3rd now according to Sky Sports App.
grimtales1
20-10-2015
Bayern at their place will be tough though, and after that we still (probably) have to win the next two.
Xela M
20-10-2015
I was there tonight! What a great game!! Bayern were pressing hard before the goal fell and Cech was really outstanding. But Arsenal did an amazing job the last half hour and you shut out Lewandowski completely. Neuer was punished for standing too far out of the goal as he always does! Ozil was great I thought (again). Super result against a great Bayern side. Arsenal are really on now! Is this their year?

P.S. If Wenger puts Ospina in goal ever again instead of a healthy Cech, he might need to be sectioned.
Goodwin
21-10-2015
Great result. I know it's easy to say after the event but I did have them in my acca. They were 5/2 with PP. I just didn't want to jinx it by saying anything before the match. Just a shame a couple of other games didn't go my way. Ho hum.

Anyway, it will prob come down to the last match. If we can avoid defeat in Munich then prob have to beat Olym. I am assuming we will beat Zagreb at home. All to play for anyway. Let's continue the good form on Saturday.
Elyan
21-10-2015
Superb win.

Come on your Gunners.
LOSG
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by Red November:
“I'm not too fussed tbh.

One super season apart, he's been very average for us, and is lucky imo to get such a regular start.

OAC any day over him, or Walcott wide and Giroud up front.”

Good god comments like these.

The shift that Ramsey puts in every week is immense, yes the end product is missing at the moment but its about balance and he gives the side that.

He also protects Bellerin defensively and allows Bellerin to motor forward. Bellerin is actually our main attacking option this season (He's created more clear cut chances than ANYBODY in the league this season - and added another assist last night) and a lot of that is down to Ramsey protecting him defensively and tucking in offensively giving him space.

Assuming you mean Chamberlain? How anybody would have Chamberlain in the team over Ramsey is beyond me. Or in the team at all come to think of it.
yellowlabbie
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by LOSG:
“Good god comments like these.

The shift that Ramsey puts in every week is immense, yes the end product is missing at the moment but its about balance and he gives the side that.

He also protects Bellerin defensively and allows Bellerin to motor forward. Bellerin is actually our main attacking option this season (He's created more clear cut chances than ANYBODY in the league this season - and added another assist last night) and a lot of that is down to Ramsey protecting him defensively and tucking in offensively giving him space.

Assuming you mean Chamberlain? How anybody would have Chamberlain in the team over Ramsey is beyond me. Or in the team at all come to think of it.”

I agree terrible comments.
Red November
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by LOSG:
“Good god comments like these.

The shift that Ramsey puts in every week is immense, yes the end product is missing at the moment but its about balance and he gives the side that.

He also protects Bellerin defensively and allows Bellerin to motor forward. Bellerin is actually our main attacking option this season (He's created more clear cut chances than ANYBODY in the league this season - and added another assist last night) and a lot of that is down to Ramsey protecting him defensively and tucking in offensively giving him space.

Assuming you mean Chamberlain? How anybody would have Chamberlain in the team over Ramsey is beyond me. Or in the team at all come to think of it.”

My comments were about Ramsey, not Bellerin. Bellerin's always been a fantastic player, with or without Ramsey in the team.

I remember a year or two back when Bellerin was an unknown and he had to step in for a CL game at the last minute. Researching who he was, the general view seemed to be he was a bit naïve defensively (which he was at the time) but great going forward with an excellent cross. Bellerin being the player he is now, is down to Bellerin, and not because Ramsey 'frees him up'. He's always played in the same way.

Getting back to Ramsey, as I say apart from one super season, he's underperformed for us imo. His passing isn't great, gets caught in possession a lot, and has lost his confidence in front of goal. Yes, he does often put in a shift, which is a good thing, but of all our midfield players, when the 70th minute comes around and the board goes up, I'm hoping it's his number that's coming off, and quite often it is.

As I said, I'd start with AOC ahead of him, and definitely a fit Wilshire, heck, even a fit Rosicky.
Red November
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“I agree terrible comments.”

Nothing terrible about it - just an opinion who I'd rather have in the team

I'm sure we all have different views on such things.
yellowlabbie
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by Red November:
“Nothing terrible about it - just an opinion who I'd rather have in the team

I'm sure we all have different views on such things.”

I just thought it was unnecessary and rather cold especially with all the injury problems he has had but I get your point.
Red November
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“I just thought it was unnecessary and rather cold especially with all the injury problems he has had but I get your point.”

I just don't think he will be that missed, and will allow others to get a game, who I feel are more deserving on current form. He's the most expendable in our midfield imo. Imagine if Sanchez, Coquellin, or Cazorla, were injured, they'd be almost irreplaceable, Whereas Ramsey is very much replaceable

I don't dislike the fella and wish him a speedy recovery, but I also hope his form improves and gets back to the player he was a few season ago.
LOSG
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by Red November:
“My comments were about Ramsey, not Bellerin. Bellerin's always been a fantastic player, with or without Ramsey in the team.

I remember a year or two back when Bellerin was an unknown and he had to step in for a CL game at the last minute. Researching who he was, the general view seemed to be he was a bit naïve defensively (which he was at the time) but great going forward with an excellent cross. Bellerin being the player he is now, is down to Bellerin, and not because Ramsey 'frees him up'. He's always played in the same way.

Getting back to Ramsey, as I say apart from one super season, he's underperformed for us imo. His passing isn't great, gets caught in possession a lot, and has lost his confidence in front of goal. Yes, he does often put in a shift, which is a good thing, but of all our midfield players, when the 70th minute comes around and the board goes up, I'm hoping it's his number that's coming off, and quite often it is.

As I said, I'd start with AOC ahead of him, and definitely a fit Wilshire, heck, even a fit Rosicky.”

Do you go to games/understand football? I've just read 4 paragraphs of nonsense. Yes 2013/14 Ramsey was immense but just because he's not currently playing at that very very very very very high level doesn't mean he's playing poorly.

Sanchez gave the ball away at least twice last night which led to Bayern chances, is he playing poorly too?

Teamwork is the most important part of a Football...team. Ramsey brings out the best in Bellerin in the same way Coq brings it out of Santi.. Kos brings it out of Per. Someone has to do the graft and certain players complement each other better than others.

What does Chamberlain bring that Ramsey doesn't?

6 League goals in 5 years so not that.
7 League assists in 5 seasons so not that.
Gives the ball away a hell of a lot. (in crucial areas!!)
Doesn't protect his full back.
Gets lost.
Has pace I guess, we'll give him that. Shame he has no idea how to use it.
Red November
21-10-2015
Originally Posted by LOSG:
“Do you go to games/understand football? I've just read 4 paragraphs of nonsense. Yes 2013/14 Ramsey was immense but just because he's not currently playing at that very very very very very high level doesn't mean he's playing poorly.

Sanchez gave the ball away at least twice last night which led to Bayern chances, is he playing poorly too?

Teamwork is the most important part of a Football...team. Ramsey brings out the best in Bellerin in the same way Coq brings it out of Santi.. Kos brings it out of Per. Someone has to do the graft and certain players complement each other better than others.

What does Chamberlain bring that Ramsey doesn't?

6 League goals in 5 years so not that.
7 League assists in 5 seasons so not that.
Gives the ball away a hell of a lot. (in crucial areas!!)
Doesn't protect his full back.
Gets lost.
Has pace I guess, we'll give him that. Shame he has no idea how to use it.”

Yeah, I get it, you're a fan of Ramsey,

And I'm not (on his current form that is, but am when he's playing better )

Ergo, I don't think he will be missed as much as you seem to think he will be.

HTH
ihatemarmite
22-10-2015
Ramsey out wide is the only way he's in the team right now. Seems that he's out for weeks (again). He's still far more likely to score than AOC, who isn't a player that I really rate. He's never quite fulfilled his promise and seems to be the same player he was a few years ago.
Looks like he'll get a run in the side now though so hopefully that'll help him.

Still think we struggle against sides that don't play a high defensive line though. And yes, it lead to a goal, but if Bellerin had missed that (excellent) interception, Bayern would have been clear on goal. We were 1-0 up in the final minutes.
Just hope we don't let it slip now against Everton.
Goodwin
24-10-2015
We ought to dispatch Everton but they have a recent habit of spoiling the party at the Emirates. We beat them last season at home but that was in March. Two previous home draws prior to that. Not to be taken lightly!
Tiron
24-10-2015
Looking like a good weekend so far

Anyway, come on Arsenal!
NightHawk123
24-10-2015
Giroud starts ahead of Theo.

Gabriel comes in for Mertesacker who hasen't even made the bench due to illness again.

We'll be expected to beat Everton after our midweek win against Bayern. That will be the real test to see if we can keep our consistency up.
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