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Should the civilian series be shorter?
hmeister
04-05-2015
With Channel Fail refusing to provide Live Feed and viewing figures often dipping to below 1million last year for the BB15 should they reduce the amount of weeks?

I'd change it to 6 weeks with 10 housemates.

They should be focussing on Celebrity Big Brother now as it gets much more viewers and social buzz. It's obvious that the Civilian series no longer works and stopped being Big Brother the day it moved to Channel Fail.
firefly_irl
04-05-2015
Ever since the days Channel 4 extended it I always found the last 2 weeks tough to get through, I'd often completely miss a whole week before the finale so I'd be open for them cutting it a bit.
hmeister
04-05-2015
Originally Posted by firefly_irl:
“Ever since the days Channel 4 extended it I always found the last 2 weeks tough to get through, I'd often completely miss a whole week before the finale so I'd be open for them cutting it a bit.”

Back in the good old days the weeks were fine for me, probably due to Live Feed. You could get to know the housemates and form a proper opinion without being forced an opinion by a bad edit. These days they have way too many housemates with only a 45 minute highlights show followed by Shit on the Side which is basically the Rylan Show and they don't show anything new meaning you don't get to know the housemates in the space of 10 weeks.
rfonzo
04-05-2015
Originally Posted by hmeister:
“Back in the good old days the weeks were fine for me, probably due to Live Feed. You could get to know the housemates and form a proper opinion without being forced an opinion by a bad edit. These days they have way too many housemates with only a 45 minute highlights show followed by Shit on the Side which is basically the Rylan Show and they don't show anything new meaning you don't get to know the housemates in the space of 10 weeks.”

I agree. i think with Live streaming 10-12 weeks is a fair amount of time. Another problem is that as the series went by they introduced twists where new housemates would join and that sets the dynamic back even further, resulting in existing housemates and viewers wanting to get to know the new entrants.
hmeister
04-05-2015
Originally Posted by rfonzo:
“I agree. i think with Live streaming 10-12 weeks is a fair amount of time. Another problem is that as the series went by they introduced twists where new housemates would join and that sets the dynamic back even further, resulting in existing housemates and viewers wanting to get to know the new entrants.”

It's impossible to get to know the originals and when I heard about them introducing 3 new housemates last year I thought it was a pathetic idea.

Also the current production team are awful so by the end of week one they've already run out of ideas so resort to creating twists that will rock the house forever
DUNDEEBOY
04-05-2015
Originally Posted by hmeister:
“With Channel Fail refusing to provide Live Feed and viewing figures often dipping to below 1million last year for the BB15 should they reduce the amount of weeks?

I'd change it to 6 weeks with 10 housemates.

They should be focussing on Celebrity Big Brother now as it gets much more viewers and social buzz. It's obvious that the Civilian series no longer works and stopped being Big Brother the day it moved to Channel Fail.”

Definitely not they should not be focussing on celebrity big brother, should cut that back to once a year.

Only 3 months since the last one finished, it retrospect it wasn't very good, now we have to hear again about which lower than z list Americans who might be in the next one
Moomin STFC
05-05-2015
I much prefer the civilian BB to the Celeb one so that would annoy me if they cut the time - 6 weeks would not be long enough at all.
Veri
05-05-2015
Originally Posted by firefly_irl:
“Ever since the days Channel 4 extended it I always found the last 2 weeks tough to get through, I'd often completely miss a whole week before the finale so I'd be open for them cutting it a bit.”

C5 cut it back to 10 weeks -- the length of BB 5 -- but then tacked a celeb series on the end. I think that's too much.

I'd like to see the non-celeb series cut back to the original 9 weeks (like BBs 1-4), without a CBB on the end.

I think one of the things that's worked against BB over the years is that there's so much of it. To follow BB properly requires a huge commitment of time. It's on for months, an hour a day, plus secondary shows and online clips. I can't think of any other show that expects people to watch that much. And the next BB or CBB comes too soon, I think, for many viewers. They find it hard to be enthusiastic all over again so soon.

(I think that may even help account for odd-numbered BBs almost always doing better than the even-numbered ones. Many viewers who become heavily involved in a BB aren't ready to do it again a year later, at least not as much, but by the time of the year after that (the next odd-numbered BB), they're ready again.)


Originally Posted by hmeister:
“Back in the good old days the weeks were fine for me, probably due to Live Feed. You could get to know the housemates and form a proper opinion without being forced an opinion by a bad edit. These days they have way too many housemates with only a 45 minute highlights show followed by Shit on the Side which is basically the Rylan Show and they don't show anything new meaning you don't get to know the housemates in the space of 10 weeks.”

I think the 12 and 13 week BBs were too long even with the live feed. I think that even the people making the show didn't know how to make something that long work and so resorted to adding a bunch of new HMs in the middle.
CLL Dodge
05-05-2015
*Agrees with Veri*

BB7 (a generally well-liked series) was the first 13 week show. I remember half way throuigh that series we had the same number of housemates that we did at the start. But none of the mid-series newbies were as good as those we had lost. It seemed like we were starting all over again with an inferior product.
Aurora13
05-05-2015
Originally Posted by CLL Dodge:
“*Agrees with Veri*

BB7 (a generally well-liked series) was the first 13 week show. I remember half way throuigh that series we had the same number of housemates that we did at the start. But none of the mid-series newbies were as good as those we had lost. It seemed like we were starting all over again with an inferior product.”

Totally agree. BB7 gets raved about but for me it was all about the early weeks and the slow drag to the final. BB8 was as bad with the addition of new folks but in that case the early weeks were not even that good. The worst series for newbies though was BB11.
Keviness
05-05-2015
If C5 insist of 3 series a year I'd like:

3/4 Weeks - Celeb BB Winter

8/10 Weeks - Big Brother

3/4 Weeks - Spin-off (Celeb Hijack or a new format)
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