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Supergirl - UK PACE [NO SPOILERS]
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Corwin
04-06-2016
Originally Posted by swingaleg:
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What is the CW ?”

The TV Network Supergirl will be on from next year.


It's the same network Arrow, The Flash and Legends of Tomorrow are broadcast on.

Hence the talk of more crossovers between the shows.
swingaleg
04-06-2016
Originally Posted by Corwin:
“The TV Network Supergirl will be on from next year.

It's the same network Arrow, The Flash and Legends of Tomorrow are broadcast on.

Hence the talk of more crossovers between the shows.”

cheers.......

given that I don't watch any of those other shows I'm not that fussed about crossovers......as long as it stays on Sky One over here
Old Man 43
04-06-2016
Originally Posted by Verence:
“Thanks to events on the Season 2 finale of The Flash it's known that SG isn't from Earth-3”

I don't watch Flash . Could you please tell me what you mean.
Corwin
04-06-2016
Originally Posted by Old Man 43:
“I don't watch Flash . Could you please tell me what you mean.”

There's a character
Spoiler
who is from Earth 3 and it isn't the same Earth as Supergirl is on.
PDS1985
04-06-2016
Originally Posted by Corwin:
“There's a character
Spoiler
who is from Earth 3 and it isn't the same Earth as Supergirl is on.
”

Spoiler


I wonder what Earth Supergirl is on then?
swingaleg
04-06-2016
I don't watch Flash either but all this Earth 3 stuff was explained in last night's Supergirl.......you know, when he was drawing on the blackboard and Winn was going on about Multiverse Theory

There are multiple Earths which inhabit the same space but vibrate at different rates and are thus invisible to each other. He came from Earth 3 as a result of an experiment to increase his speed

He told Supergirl that she was on a different Earth......(which WE assume to be Earth 1)
carl.waring
04-06-2016
Actually, I assumed that The Flash was set on Earth 1. To be fair, I assumed they were all set on this/our earth; but then I don't know zip about the DC comics universe
Thrombin
05-06-2016
Is there actually a Universe in DC comic-dom which has the Flash and no Supergirl? Or vice-versa? I can't help thinking they're deviating a bit?
Matt D
05-06-2016
The Flash is set on Earth-1. It's been stated multiple times in that show.

The other Earth in season 2 of The Flash is Earth-2.

When the Flash/Supergirl crossover happened, it was assumed that Supergirl was therefore set on Earth-3.

But, as Corwin said, later events mean that it can't be.

Supergirl is therefore presumably set on Earth-4.


Originally Posted by Thrombin:
“Is there actually a Universe in DC comic-dom which has the Flash and no Supergirl? Or vice-versa? I can't help thinking they're deviating a bit?”

None of the DC shows are straight-up adaptations. They all take liberties. They have to. But the DCU has had so many multiple Earths and so many total reboots, it doesn't really matter.
Westy2
05-06-2016
Im confused ?
brangdon
05-06-2016
Originally Posted by Matt D:
“The Flash is set on Earth-1. It's been stated multiple times in that show.”

Well, they call it Earth-1, but that was because it was the Earth they came from. When they met someone from Earth-2, he made a point of telling them that to him, his Earth was Earth-1 and theirs was Earth-2.

It was only in the finale that they said there was a way to destroy all the Earths, and apparently that could only be done from the Flash's Earth. Which suggests that the Flash's Earth was special and maybe deserves to be Earth-1 objectively.

On the other hand, the science is very hand-wavy so they may have got it wrong, and there may be other ways that make the other Earth's special too. And there may be Earths other than Flash's Earth from which all the Earths can be destroyed. If the Earths vibrate at different frequencies, then presumably those frequencies have an objective beats-per-second and that could give an objective numbering system - although the Earth with the lowest frequency might not be the most important.
BartWest
05-06-2016
I'm confused by of this. Supergirl is on the same Earth as Superman. He is a member of The Justice League of America, as is The Flash.
That means Supergirl and The Flash should be on the same Earth.
kriZbii
05-06-2016
There is no JLA in the TV universe (yet). Comic, film and other TV adaptations have no relevance here. As things stand, Supergirl exists in a different continuity to The Flash, the writers just used The Flash's multiverse to allow them to cross-over.

Arrow, Flash and Legends of Tomorrow are all set on what the Flash calls Earth 1.

Earths 2 and 3 are alternate versions of Earth 1 featured in The Flash, but you don't need to know that unless you watch The Flash.

Supergirl is set on an alternate version of Earth, where she and Superman are the only known superheroes.

People like Batman haven't been mentioned to exist in either TV show universe.

The DC Movies exist in their own bubble unconnected to the TV shows, where Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman and The Flash and probably every other DC hero exists.

The finale of The Flash could lead to the TV universes merging so that Supergirl ends up on Earth-1 with everyone else.
PsychoTherapist
05-06-2016
Originally Posted by BartWest:
“I'm confused by of this. Supergirl is on the same Earth as Superman. He is a member of The Justice League of America, as is The Flash.
That means Supergirl and The Flash should be on the same Earth.”

The Justice League doesn't exist in the TV universe, on any of the multiple Earths shown at present. That's not to say they can't throw in a sneaky joking reference at some point, but generally it's not likely to ever exist whilst the Movies are happening.
Thrombin
05-06-2016
Originally Posted by kriZbii:
“People like Batman haven't been mentioned to exist in either TV show universe.”

I'm sure I remember some kind of throwaway reference to the Dark Knight or something in one of the shows (I think Supergirl)
Woodbine
05-06-2016
Originally Posted by kriZbii:
“People like Batman haven't been mentioned to exist in either TV show universe.
”

There was a mention of The Oracle name being taken in Arrow, although obviously not Batman it kinda make it sound like it implies he does exist in this universe.
Matt D
05-06-2016
Originally Posted by brangdon:
“Well, they call it Earth-1, but that was because it was the Earth they came from. When they met someone from Earth-2, he made a point of telling them that to him, his Earth was Earth-1 and theirs was Earth-2.”

True. But...

Originally Posted by brangdon:
“It was only in the finale that they said there was a way to destroy all the Earths, and apparently that could only be done from the Flash's Earth. Which suggests that the Flash's Earth was special and maybe deserves to be Earth-1 objectively.”

... it wasn't just suggested that Flash's Earth was special. It was specifically stated in dialogue.


And, of course, looking at it from the real world rather than in-universe, The Flash & Arrow's Earth came first, as Arrow was the first TV series > It's Earth-1.


Originally Posted by kriZbii:
“There is no JLA in the TV universe (yet). Comic, film and other TV adaptations have no relevance here. As things stand, Supergirl exists in a different continuity to The Flash, the writers just used The Flash's multiverse to allow them to cross-over.

Arrow, Flash and Legends of Tomorrow are all set on what the Flash calls Earth 1.

Earths 2 and 3 are alternate versions of Earth 1 featured in The Flash, but you don't need to know that unless you watch The Flash.

Supergirl is set on an alternate version of Earth, where she and Superman are the only known superheroes.

People like Batman haven't been mentioned to exist in either TV show universe.

The DC Movies exist in their own bubble unconnected to the TV shows, where Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman and The Flash and probably every other DC hero exists.

The finale of The Flash could lead to the TV universes merging so that Supergirl ends up on Earth-1 with everyone else.”

Exactly.


It doesn't matter how things are, or how things were done, in the comics - this is separate, as are the other TV shows.
Corwin
05-06-2016
Originally Posted by Thrombin:
“I'm sure I remember some kind of throwaway reference to the Dark Knight or something in one of the shows (I think Supergirl) ”

In "Legends" Rip Hunter makes a passing reference to Dark Knights and Men of Steel but it's not clear if he is actually talking about Batman and Superman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUgq_jc_Co8


The name Wayne is also seen in a newspaper article (Wayne Tech merges with Queen Inc) in a season 1 episode of The Flash.
Gulftastic
05-06-2016
Originally Posted by Thrombin:
“Is there actually a Universe in DC comic-dom which has the Flash and no Supergirl? Or vice-versa? I can't help thinking they're deviating a bit?”

Yes. Earth 2. Has Jay Garrick as the original Flash, but no Supergirl. On that Earth, Kara arrived much, much later than her cousin and was a grown woman. She became Power Girl.
degsyhufc
05-06-2016
I wouldn't bother putting too much thought into it. I felt for what it was it was an enjoyable episode. More lighthearted than usual.

I've not seen and have no intention of watching The Flash.
BartWest
06-06-2016
Originally Posted by PsychoTherapist:
“The Justice League doesn't exist in the TV universe, on any of the multiple Earths shown at present. That's not to say they can't throw in a sneaky joking reference at some point, but generally it's not likely to ever exist whilst the Movies are happening.”

You'll have to forgive me. I'm a product of the 60s when DC and Marvel were a lot simpler. I do enjoy the whole TV and movie versions my childhood comic book heroes, though. I'm and avid fan of Flash, Arrow, LoT, Supergirl, Marvels Agents of Shield and even Gotham, along with the movie franchises, despite all the crazy "reboots."
Cadiva
06-06-2016
Originally Posted by Thrombin:
“I'm sure I remember some kind of throwaway reference to the Dark Knight or something in one of the shows (I think Supergirl) ”

Either Vandal Savage or RIp Hunter mentioned something about seeing Dark Knights falling and Men of Steel dying, or words to that effect, in Legends of Tomorrow
Thrombin
06-06-2016
Originally Posted by Cadiva:
“Either Vandal Savage or RIp Hunter mentioned something about seeing Dark Knights falling and Men of Steel dying, or words to that effect, in Legends of Tomorrow ”

Yes, Corwin posted the link above. I knew I remembered it somewhere!

That suggests Batman and Superman are part of the Flash/Arrow/LOT universe which seems slightly at odds with the idea that Supergirl isn't. Or, maybe, Rip has been doing his own dimension jumping too!
Cadiva
06-06-2016
Originally Posted by Thrombin:
“Yes, Corwin posted the link above. I knew I remembered it somewhere!

That suggests Batman and Superman are part of the Flash/Arrow/LOT universe which seems slightly at odds with the idea that Supergirl isn't. Or, maybe, Rip has been doing his own dimension jumping too!”

Yeah I realised Corwin had posted it about two seconds after I replied

I think it was basically thrown in as an Easter Egg to acknowledge two of DC's biggest superheroes who the viewer knows are highly unlikely to ever appear on the TV screen incarnation of DC's universe.
Same with the previous nod to Harley Quinn on Arrow.
jedi matt
06-06-2016
I thought that too when I heared Rip refer to Dark Knights and Men of Steel I wonder if because there are going to be ran by the same network next season these references will be touched on more and we may start seeing alternate versions of Kara as has been mentioned earlier her Earth 1 doppelgänger power girl. Also we don't know for sure whether there is a Flash or not on Kara's Earth because remember what reverse Flash did to the timeline on Earth 1 in the Flash he changed it by possibly creating a new universe out of it and remember in the original timeline Barry didn't originally become the Flash for until many years after it happened in the show.
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