All have to be watched as it's a story arc which goes through all four shows during the week apparently. Starts with Supergirl, then The Flash, then Arrow and finishes up with Legends of Tomorrow.

I'm sightly annoyed that his actual name was given as 'Mon El' and not Lar Gand*.

Also, no 'but 'El' is my name too....' from Kara?


*Long live the Legion!

I'm glad someone else picked up on this!

Taking the mick out of the old "No-one recognises Clark Kent as Superman when he has his glasses on" routine

I'm teetering on the edge of dumping this show with all this talk of crossovers to other shows that I don't watch

but tonight's episode is a cracker.......

Dichen Lachman I worry when she pops up in something tends to egt cancelled

she was also in the one season wonder with the submarine whose name escapes me

Looking forward to that.

This is getting better - I thought it had lost it when Cat left, the other week - still, good baddies - Alex story is done well....plus the new Guy, in the cupboard - is this still good to be on at 8.

Watched it once, she has a great body, but that is all it has going for it.
But given CBS' reputation for flogging series to death, it will probably run for decade.

I'm loving it - something good on nearly every night (and all things I was watching anyway)! Although it must seem a bit confusing for anyone who's just dived in from nowhere and isn't familiar with the back stories? (Even I have to sit down sometimes and think, "Hang on, which one was that person in?", lol...) The Arrowverse Wiki is a great help if you just want to quickly check someone out.

I'm guessing the crossover will have the least effect on Supergirl out of the four shows.


Last Resort.

Same here. Getting boring now.

Have you tried watching the others? (They're all pretty good!)

I had a bit of trouble believing how much trouble she had taking on a few humans. She should be fast enough to run round them and swipe all their weapons out of their hands before they even pull the trigger. She could blow on them and sweep them all away with her breath. She could have shot the guns out of their hands with her eye beams long before they could react....

Maybe if they'd had futuristic armour as well as weapons but, just weapons? I thought that made her look pretty hopeless as a superhero, to be honest

I just caught up on the last three episodes, and really enjoyed them. I hadn't expected to without Cat. I like the Red/White Martian thing, and Alex with her new friend, and Linda Carter as President.

Hmm...the show's kinda turned into to Men in Black hasn't it? Aliens everywhere and hidden in government too. Takes away from the specialness of Supergirl when there's 101 beings that can give her a good fight. I know it's like that in the comics but it doesn't work so well on TV.

To be fair though it is a bit of a savage indictment of Trump's America with these millionaire capitalists whipping up the plebs with 'anti-foreigner' rhetoric in order to divide and rule

No doubt they'll be chasing Alex with pitchforks when they whip up the homophobes

And what's with Jimmy Olssen going all 'Kick-Ass' on us.........

It doesn't work so well in the comics either, judging by their sales numbers.

Aliens, aliens and more aliens is just such a lazy superhero trope. It's much easier to just throw in some random, purple, laser eyed shape-shifter, or whatever, than to actually write a compelling villain. I have always said that superheroes work best in a more grounded setting. The more super and fantastic you make everything around them, the less interesting or special the supposedly super aspect of the heroes become. However, on the Berlanti shows, they're almost actively undermining what actually should make the characters super, which isn't their super powers.

The trouble with Superman and Supergirl is they're just too powerful, so the writers have to resort to endless aliens in order to give them a proper antagonist. Simple human bank robbers, for example, are dealt with with such nonchalance as to be entirely undramatic.

I'm all for taking their power levels down a notch or two, if only to get a little more physicality into their super feats, like on the old Fleisher cartoons. I don't think it adds anything to the character to be able to have Superman hover above Earth's atmosphere and hear every single person below. I did like how they established that Supergirl can't fly in space.

But the power levels excuse is just that; an excuse. In practical terms, once you get past a certain power level, there really isn't that big a difference between what Superman/Supergirl could do compared to say, The Flash, Spider-Man, or many of the X-Men. In fact, several of the X-Men are almost insanely powerful, but the first two movies at least were much more grounded in reality and believable than your average Supergirl episode.

And it's definitely possible to come up with credible villains without powers. You don't necessarily need a super powered fight every week. And when they introduce a powered villain, like a Metallo or a Parasite, they need to do a much better job with the portrayal of the characters. So far, it's mostly just been about the gimmick of their powers.

Corrected.

Although the aliens in Supergirl aren't all villains. And the villains aren't all aliens. The woman running the fight club isn't an alien, and neither were the guys with high-tech guns. The president is an alien but not a villain, and likewise with the chap who came from Supergirl's sister planet, and the White Martian. The aliens at the fight club were arguably victims.

I think Oliver Queen is lucky he lives in Starling City and not National City, but given that Supergirl is a different show with lots of aliens, I don't think it is doing a bad job of deploying them.

The 'Heroes vs Aliens' promotion for the crossover is kind of annoying. Have they forgotten Supergirl is an alien?

Doubtful because Barry said he's off to get an Alien of their own.

It wasn't so much a point about quantity, as it was about quality. There are even ways to do aliens well and keep things grounded. X-Files consistently did that more than 2 decades ago. Now, neither Mulder or Scully could fly, but I think there are ways to dial down the silliness of Supergirl and improve the overall quality.

Wonder how much the city has to spend repairing the pavements and roads every week Also like the Guardian outfit.

Could play the game of taking a shot every time they say the word ''hero'' in this episode, you'd be hammered after 10 minutes lol.