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Could play the game of taking a shot every time they say the word ''hero'' in this episode, you'd be hammered after 10 minutes lol.
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City girl trying to find herself meets (Wo)Men in Black meets the L Word at the moment. Covering all corners for young women huh?!
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And yet still a fantastic show
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And yet still a fantastic show
![]() I'm still not happy about this idea of shoe-horning one story into 4 different series, 3 of which I don't watch..........and don't intend to watch one episode of with no background context feels like I'm missing out on part of the story |
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yes......must say that after thinking about dumping it a few weeks ago the last 2 episodes have been back on top form !
I'm still not happy about this idea of shoe-horning one story into 4 different series, 3 of which I don't watch..........and don't intend to watch one episode of with no background context feels like I'm missing out on part of the story
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Season 2 is turning out to be a lot better than I expected. The channel move has paid off so far.
Thought it would suffer from the loss of Cat but the additional characters (including The Guardian and now Cyborg Superman) are giving plenty of story to cover so each episode flies past without all the feminist preachy stuff. Even the monster of the week is tied up with an overall story line featuring Ma Luther so it feels like it's going somewhere. A but disappointed that Cyborg Superman only used Supergirl's blood to access some info in the Fortress of Solitude. I guess he has the strength to use the front door key we saw in season 1, hence the name. I like how they've managed to fit both of Hank's alter egos into the story after all the guessing which path they'd go down during season 1.
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yes......must say that after thinking about dumping it a few weeks ago the last 2 episodes have been back on top form !
I'm still not happy about this idea of shoe-horning one story into 4 different series, 3 of which I don't watch..........and don't intend to watch one episode of with no background context feels like I'm missing out on part of the story Not watching the other three won't really have much impact on Supergirl and you could easily watch the other three without ever having watched The Flash, Arrow or LoT, because there's not much outside of the Invasion! episodes. |
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You'd think that Cyborg Superman actually look like... erm... Superman
![]() Also... why do some new shows now have to have at least one LGBTQ character? Seems like the one in Supergirl came out of nowhere and was shoe-horned in just so they can say they did it. My point being that it adds nothing to the show. They could have just given her a boyfriend. (In the same way that shows always seem to have to have mixed-race couples these days.) I'm not "anti" anything or homophobic. Just an observation. (Also please note I know nothing of the history of DC comics. Only what I see on-screen.) |
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Also... why do some new shows now have to have at least one LGBTQ character?
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You'd think that Cyborg Superman actually look like... erm... Superman
![]() Also... why do some new shows now have to have at least one LGBTQ character? Seems like the one in Supergirl came out of nowhere and was shoe-horned in just so they can say they did it. My point being that it adds nothing to the show. They could have just given her a boyfriend. (In the same way that shows always seem to have to have mixed-race couples these days.) I'm not "anti" anything or homophobic. Just an observation. (Also please note I know nothing of the history of DC comics. Only what I see on-screen.) The relationship with Maggie has been built up over a few episodes and is, imho, quite realistic and has been well managed. Quote:
It's not just LGBTQ (there's a Q now?)
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The “Q” can stand for Questioning and/or Queer: Questioning refers to individuals who are unsure of their sexual orientation and/or gender identity. Queer is an umbrella term encompassing a variety of sexual orientations and gender identities excluding heterosexuality.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...ning/26925563/
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I saw this retweeted recently. Looks like including a few LGBT characters can do more good than you think:
http://www.blastr.com/2016-12-5/repr...form=hootsuite |
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She went on one date with Max Lord in Season One but, as that was part of trying to find out what he was up to, they've never done anything else to say whether she was gay or not.
Alex has said herself to Kara that it's been a while since she's dated proper, implying boyfriends in the past, prior to her newfound preference for women. Maybe she's bi, either way not a big deal, just seems a bit forced they're trying to get her and the cop closer than friends/colleagues. Max seems to have just been dropped with not even a mention in season 2. Can't remember him being bumped off at the end of season 1, so an abrupt change to make way for the Luthors? A bit like the change of location for the DEA where Supergirl said at the start of season 2 what we'd all be wondering "it's been here the whole time and only now you're letting me know?". In other words, why have her always fly out to the old desert location if this one was nearer.
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It's not exactly unknown to not figure out your sexuality until much older. Heck, I never really knew exactly what I was until my 30s.
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The Q usually stands for either questioning or queer. ...
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...ning/26925563/ ![]() Quote:
It did feel at the time that they were trying to pair the two up as there seemed to be chemistry between them...
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Max seems to have just been dropped with not even a mention in season 2. Can't remember him being bumped off at the end of season 1, so an abrupt change to make way for the Luthors?
That and the move to Canada. It's no big loss, though. The actor was definitely one of the show's weaker points, along with Lucy Lane who also got dropped in the move, but it is a little weird that someone who was such a big presence in National City just disappears like that.
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Oh yeah........Max Lord
Maybe it's the similarity of names but through this series whenever they refer to Lex I've thought it was Max They're two different people !....... ![]() I didn't really enjoy this week's episode so much.......it seemed like we were back in 'new alien every five minutes' mode I don't like Jimmy being The Guardian........it just seems like everyone in the show is going to be a superhero........and when they're all superheros none of them are |
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Out of curiosity, why cast black actors as Martians?
Is it easier to make up a black actor into a Green Martian? I dont know what the comic's version of Hank Henshaw looks like, but the comic version of Ms Martian's alter ego is a teenage white girl. |
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Hank Henshaw's white, but the human J'onn J'onzz is black.
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Out of curiosity, why cast black actors as Martians?
Is it easier to make up a black actor into a Green Martian? I dont know what the comic's version of Hank Henshaw looks like, but the comic version of Ms Martian's alter ego is a teenage white girl. |
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Because they were the best for the role I suspect.
David Harewood is actually very good, but it's no coincidence that minority actors auditioning for one of the leads in shows like these somehow never turn out to be "best for the role". |
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I don't see why it matters if a character is black or not and can't say the thought even crossed my mind.
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They cast a robot as Savitar
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Also... why do some new shows now have to have at least one LGBTQ character? Seems like the one in Supergirl came out of nowhere and was shoe-horned in just so they can say they did it. My point being that it adds nothing to the show. They could have just given her a boyfriend.
(In the same way that shows always seem to have to have mixed-race couples these days.) I'm not "anti" anything or homophobic. Just an observation. Quote:
Out of curiosity, why cast black actors as Martians?
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It's not just LGBTQ (there's a Q now?), but there's a general diversity mandate across TV, movies and comics these days. Blacks, Latinos and gays in particular are really important for business. Asians and Middle Easterns less so, so we generally won't see as many of those, until they start making more of an appearance on the balance sheets. Well, we do see a fair amount of Middle Easterns on shows like Homeland, 24, etc, but they're probably not always portrayed in quite the same way.
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I doubt even a CW network executive could say that and keep a straight face.
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They cast a robot as Savitar
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The drive to sell shows and movies to the lucrative populous Asian market may lead to problems in showing on screen diversity. Look at how John Boyega's image was reduced for the Chinese Star Wars publicity posters because the Chinese supposedly like their western heroes white. And somehow I can't see prominent LGBTQ characters being popular in Middle Eastern and some African markets. A dilemma for western producers.
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Who do I think best qualified for such a decision? Well let's see. US TV exec. who knows what he's talking about from experience; or random anonymous internet user? It's a tough one isn't it?
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