Or for the serious alcoholics, try playing the DC TV "Hope" drinking game.

City girl trying to find herself meets (Wo)Men in Black meets the L Word at the moment. Covering all corners for young women huh?!

And yet still a fantastic show

yes......must say that after thinking about dumping it a few weeks ago the last 2 episodes have been back on top form !

I'm still not happy about this idea of shoe-horning one story into 4 different series, 3 of which I don't watch..........and don't intend to watch one episode of with no background context

feels like I'm missing out on part of the story

Not a plot spoiler. But just in case:

Season 2 is turning out to be a lot better than I expected. The channel move has paid off so far.

Thought it would suffer from the loss of Cat but the additional characters (including The Guardian and now Cyborg Superman) are giving plenty of story to cover so each episode flies past without all the feminist preachy stuff. Even the monster of the week is tied up with an overall story line featuring Ma Luther so it feels like it's going somewhere.

A but disappointed that Cyborg Superman only used Supergirl's blood to access some info in the Fortress of Solitude. I guess he has the strength to use the front door key we saw in season 1, hence the name.

I like how they've managed to fit both of Hank's alter egos into the story after all the guessing which path they'd go down during season 1.

You're not. Each episode is pretty much self-contained within the individual show although characters from all the others appear in them, i.e. The Flash episode mostly involves a story narrative for The Flash, Arrow for Arrow and LoT for LoT, the only difference is that all four episodes are about the same event - Invasion!

Not watching the other three won't really have much impact on Supergirl and you could easily watch the other three without ever having watched The Flash, Arrow or LoT, because there's not much outside of the Invasion! episodes.

You'd think that Cyborg Superman actually look like... erm... Superman

Also... why do some new shows now have to have at least one LGBTQ character? Seems like the one in Supergirl came out of nowhere and was shoe-horned in just so they can say they did it. My point being that it adds nothing to the show. They could have just given her a boyfriend.

(In the same way that shows always seem to have to have mixed-race couples these days.)

I'm not "anti" anything or homophobic. Just an observation.

(Also please note I know nothing of the history of DC comics. Only what I see on-screen.)

It's not just LGBTQ (there's a Q now?), but there's a general diversity mandate across TV, movies and comics these days. Blacks, Latinos and gays in particular are really important for business. Asians and Middle Easterns less so, so we generally won't see as many of those, until they start making more of an appearance on the balance sheets. Well, we do see a fair amount of Middle Easterns on shows like Homeland, 24, etc, but they're probably not always portrayed in quite the same way.

Why shouldn't there be? LGBTQ people exist in "real life" so why shouldn't they be represented on screen accordingly? I also don't think it came out of nowhere. They haven't really given any indication of Alex's sexual preferences. She went on one date with Max Lord in Season One but, as that was part of trying to find out what he was up to, they've never done anything else to say whether she was gay or not.

The relationship with Maggie has been built up over a few episodes and is, imho, quite realistic and has been well managed.


The Q usually stands for either questioning or queer.


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...ning/26925563/

I saw this retweeted recently. Looks like including a few LGBT characters can do more good than you think:

http://www.blastr.com/2016-12-5/repr...form=hootsuite

It did feel at the time that they were trying to pair the two up as there seemed to be chemistry between them and in the end he came good (so more likely Alex would let him closer) rather than the cheapo Lex copy it looked like they were going to go for during season 1.

Alex has said herself to Kara that it's been a while since she's dated proper, implying boyfriends in the past, prior to her newfound preference for women. Maybe she's bi, either way not a big deal, just seems a bit forced they're trying to get her and the cop closer than friends/colleagues.

Max seems to have just been dropped with not even a mention in season 2. Can't remember him being bumped off at the end of season 1, so an abrupt change to make way for the Luthors? A bit like the change of location for the DEA where Supergirl said at the start of season 2 what we'd all be wondering "it's been here the whole time and only now you're letting me know?". In other words, why have her always fly out to the old desert location if this one was nearer.

It's not exactly unknown to not figure out your sexuality until much older. Heck, I never really knew exactly what I was until my 30s.

Thanks


No question that's what they were going for.


That and the move to Canada. It's no big loss, though. The actor was definitely one of the show's weaker points, along with Lucy Lane who also got dropped in the move, but it is a little weird that someone who was such a big presence in National City just disappears like that.

Oh yeah........Max Lord

Maybe it's the similarity of names but through this series whenever they refer to Lex I've thought it was Max

They're two different people !.......

I didn't really enjoy this week's episode so much.......it seemed like we were back in 'new alien every five minutes' mode

I don't like Jimmy being The Guardian........it just seems like everyone in the show is going to be a superhero........and when they're all superheros none of them are

Out of curiosity, why cast black actors as Martians?

Is it easier to make up a black actor into a Green Martian?

I dont know what the comic's version of Hank Henshaw looks like, but the comic version of Ms Martian's alter ego is a teenage white girl.

Hank Henshaw's white, but the human J'onn J'onzz is black.

Because they were the best for the role I suspect.

I doubt even a CW network executive could say that and keep a straight face. If that were truly the reason, I can't even imagine how bad all the red haired, white guys auditioning for Wally West must have been.

David Harewood is actually very good, but it's no coincidence that minority actors auditioning for one of the leads in shows like these somehow never turn out to be "best for the role".

I don't see why it matters if a character is black or not and can't say the thought even crossed my mind.

They cast a robot as Savitar

Given the number of characters that aren't gay, having a single gay couple doesn't seem disproportionate.


I'm guessing J'onn is black because the actor happened to be black, and there was no reason not to cast a black actor. The woman may have been black so that she could be a potential love interest for J'onn without them seeming a mixed-race couple.

The drive to sell shows and movies to the lucrative populous Asian market may lead to problems in showing on screen diversity. Look at how John Boyega's image was reduced for the Chinese Star Wars publicity posters because the Chinese supposedly like their western heroes white. And somehow I can't see prominent LGBTQ characters being popular in Middle Eastern and some African markets. A dilemma for western producers.

Who do I think best qualified for such a decision? Well let's see. US TV exec. who knows what he's talking about from experience; or random anonymous internet user? It's a tough one isn't it?

That's true diversity, but I believe the politically correct term is Techno Americans


Good point. I know China doesn't even allow theatrical releases for many American movies, but not sure what the TV situation is like.


Huh? What are you on about?