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Supergirl - UK PACE [NO SPOILERS]
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Kromm
20-05-2015
Originally Posted by Dalekbuster523:
“Both are heroines. Sarah Jane Smith is the correct way to do a female TV protagonist IMO.”

That's nonsense. If TV was constrained to making every female heroine like Sarah Jane Smith, there'd be no variety at all. Sarah Jane's SITUATION is nothing like Kara Zor-El's situation--you can't equate them in the least.
varsas
20-05-2015
Shall we see how she turns out in the final show? I expect that she'll purposely have aspects of her character that will require change during the course of the show; it would add something that I don't think is present in Arrow or The Flash though to be fair Oliver's growth came while away.
DanielF
20-05-2015
So Supergirl needs a load of teenagers helping her?
Dalekbuster523
20-05-2015
Originally Posted by Kromm:
“That's nonsense. If TV was constrained to making every female heroine like Sarah Jane Smith, there'd be no variety at all. Sarah Jane's SITUATION is nothing like Kara Zor-El's situation--you can't equate them in the least.”

I'm talking about the way she's portrayed. Sarah Jane Smith isn't the protagonist because she's female, she's the protagonist for the same reason why male protagonists are protagonists: because the writers respect and like the character. The Supergirl in those trailers, however, looks like she's the protagonist just because she's female.
varsas
20-05-2015
Originally Posted by DanielF:
“So Supergirl needs a load of teenagers helping her?”

I don't think any of the 'Scooby-gang' for the current heroes are teenagers.
NewWorldMan
20-05-2015
Originally Posted by Dalekbuster523:
“Because some of us just want to watch superheroes, not superheroes who are portrayed as unusual because they're female.”

They just need to be portrayed as female rather than male! Unless you think that female is "unusual?"
NewWorldMan
20-05-2015
Originally Posted by varsas:
“Shall we see how she turns out in the final show?.”

Yes, the six minute trailer creates an initial impression but in the context of the whole episode it might work out fine. (I didn't dislike the trailer but I also would like to see a progression character-wise.)

Quote:
“ I expect that she'll purposely have aspects of her character that will require change during the course of the show;”

I'm kind of expecting something like this. Plus, tone often changes over time with these shows and different writers will emphasise different things. I like to give these shows at least a half dozen episodes before deciding whether to continue or not.

I remember when I saw the first episode of 24 at the time of its first UK showing. Sort of half-watched it and didn't take to it at all. I found the split-screen stuff a turn-off. But if I'd just stuck with my initial impression I'd have missed something. When I eventually caught up with it I was hooked of course.
DanielF
20-05-2015
Originally Posted by varsas:
“I don't think any of the 'Scooby-gang' for the current heroes are teenagers.”

No, but that's what Sarah-Jane had and if she's being presented as the archetypal female hero...
varsas
20-05-2015
Originally Posted by NewWorldMan:
“Yes, the six minute trailer creates an initial impression but in the context of the whole episode it might work out fine. (I didn't dislike the trailer but I also would like to see a progression character-wise.)

....

I'm kind of expecting something like this. Plus, tone often changes over time with these shows and different writers will emphasise different things. I like to give these shows at least a half dozen episodes before deciding whether to continue or not.”

I agree, tonally it will likely change until they find a formula or balance that works best. If you watch the 2 minutes trailer the series comes across quite differently.
Thrombin
20-05-2015
Just saw the trailer. Looks like my kind of show. Really looking forward to this
Shawn_Lunn
21-05-2015
I meant to comment last week but count me in for watching this.

Trailer looked great, I like the lighter tone and generally, Benoist looks like she's going to be brilliant as Supergirl and Kara respectively.
welwynrose
22-05-2015
It's better than I thought it would be
whiteswan
22-05-2015
The full pilot has just hit the web - off to watch it - back later .

Dave
James Frederick
22-05-2015
Isn't this about the same time last year as The Flash pilot got leaked?.

Wonder how accidental it really is
whiteswan
22-05-2015
Just watched it...........

Very similar premise to the Flash - lots of Super Villains on the loose - its Kara's job to mop them up.

I enjoy the fact (like The Flash) I can watch it with my young son. Yes I know that annoys a lot of people on here - but its a bonus for me.

I haven't watched any Arrow episodes but I get the impression its more adult.

Got good feelings about this series.

Nice to see Superman in the pilot also.

Up up and away....................

Dave
James Frederick
22-05-2015
Originally Posted by whiteswan:
“Just watched it...........

Very similar premise to the Flash - lots of Super Villains on the loose - its Kara's job to mop them up.

I enjoy the fact (like The Flash) I can watch it with my young son. Yes I know that annoys a lot of people on here - but its a bonus for me.

I haven't watched any Arrow episodes but I get the impression its more adult.

Got good feelings about this series.

Nice to see Superman in the pilot also.

Up up and away....................

Dave”


Yes I think

Flash and Supergirl will be the light fun series.

Arrow and Legends Of Tomrrow will be the darker more serious series.
zwixxx
22-05-2015
I enjoyed it too & how they explained her delayed arrival and the show's "Haydron Collider Oops" event. Just wondering how they'll explain why Superman isn't helping out round up all the baddies. Though he could be staying away because he's allowing her to become the hero she needs to be without relying on him stepping in every 5mins.

That's the 'trouble' with many of the DC heroes - too darn super. Begs the question why they remain in their own cities when bad stuff is happening 1s travel away. But I think I can put that to one side and embrace the series as it look like it'll be a lot of fun.

though
Spoiler
the whole sister-agent asking her boss if his "she's not up to it" (ish) comment was "because she's just a girl" got me a-worrying that the series will be filled with men being chastised for alleged sexists comments when I thought his comment came cos of her inexperience with using her powers and battling super-baddies.
& still wish she was blonder.
Dalekbuster523
22-05-2015
Originally Posted by NewWorldMan:
“They just need to be portrayed as female rather than male! Unless you think that female is "unusual?"”

It makes it seem like the character is unusual when they make a big deal of a female heroine being female. Should be gender neutral.
Dalekbuster523
22-05-2015
Originally Posted by whiteswan:
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Nice to see Superman in the pilot also.”

Henry Cavill or new actor?
zwixxx
22-05-2015
Originally Posted by Dalekbuster523:
“Henry Cavill or new actor?”

Spoiler
deliberately vague, shot from behind or obscured so you couldn't see.
Shawn_Lunn
22-05-2015
Originally Posted by James Frederick:
“Isn't this about the same time last year as The Flash pilot got leaked?.

Wonder how accidental it really is”

Proof that lightning does strike twice then. Might check it out.
Corabal
22-05-2015
Originally Posted by James Frederick:
“Isn't this about the same time last year as The Flash pilot got leaked?.

Wonder how accidental it really is”

Not really, different companies.
James Frederick
22-05-2015
Originally Posted by Corabal:
“Not really, different companies.”

They are made by the same people even crossovers are very likely.

They are on diffrent networks but the same parent company owns both networks.
Flash525
22-05-2015
I do often wonder with these leaks how accidental it truly is. I don't know how it would have been distributed, but if a copy is delivered to various people for screening, and I didn't want it out, I'd send them all slightly different copies. Whichever one made it online, well, then you know who the culprit is.
Fried Kickin
22-05-2015
Originally Posted by Flash525:
“I do often wonder with these leaks how accidental it truly is. I don't know how it would have been distributed, but if a copy is delivered to various people for screening, and I didn't want it out, I'd send them all slightly different copies. Whichever one made it online, well, then you know who the culprit is. ”

The release groups will get a few copies from different sources and compare them to see what is different and then strip that data out before release.
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