Exactly.

Well said!

Well said! There's nothing like a sense of perspective to bring things into focus.

Also I think when someone asks a question they deserve an answer which is what most of us have done, if the answer doesn't suit then really take care what you ask as many of us are honest and that may not be what you wish to hear.

I 100% agree with you. Karma is lovely isn't it?

Call me obsessed but a couple of things weren't sitting right with me. I'm American & married to a lovey Englishman. I know everything we had to go through for me to live and work here legally. I was NOT allowed to work here without my Residency Visa. And I couldn't apply for my residency visa until I was married.

Also they kept saying her visa was linked with her ex which can only be 1 of 2 ways fiancee' visa or spousal visa. You can't work on a fiancee' visa but she was clearly working.

Back when it came to light she "might" be deported and they were applying for Residency Visa I thought how? she has to be married to him to get that. Looking at the deportation letter posted in the newspaper it says she applied and received one based on being a relative of her ex right? so again I thought how? you have to be a spouse have things changed that much in 15 years? So I went to the gov visa site & no.. still same rules

Family members of EEA citizens
You can apply as a direct family member if you’re related to the EEA national as:

their spouse or civil partner
their (or their spouse or civil partner’s) child or grandchild who is under 21 or a dependant
their (or their spouse or civil partner’s) dependent parent or grandparent
If the EEA national is a student, you can only qualify as their family member if you’re:

their spouse or civil partner
their (or their spouse or civil partner’s) dependent child

So am I right in thinking Sasha isn't just her ex-boyfriend... he's her ex husband?

I think there's a problem with that sort of reasoning.

HMs appear in the press at other times too. However, at this time of year people interpret the stories as a kind of desperate attempt to try to get coverage before the new series draws the media's attention.

Although Steven and Kim seem more keen on (or desperate for) media coverage than most, even in their case stories appear at other times. For example, just on the Huffington Post there have been at least three earlier stories about their marriage and visa troubles:

Who Saw This 'BB' Engagement Coming? 23.09.2014
'BB' Couple's Wedding 'In Jeopardy' 02.02.2015
'Big Brother' Couple Finally Tie The Knot 20.04.2015

Also, with most HMs (at least) what would be the point? In a way, it's one of the worst times to get coverage. Media interest in housemates is about to move on, so there's less change of any followup. If a HM is desperate for exposure, why would they wait until just before a new series starts?

Perhaps it seems that there are more stories about ex HMs in the runup to a new series than at other times, but how do we know that's not an illusory correlation? (Rather like the way "karma" or a full moon is seen as an explanation.)

I don't think anyone has ever looked at it properly to see if stories are more frequent at such times. (And even if they are more frequent, that could reflect the media's interest rather than the HMs' desires.)

Verence's is unusual in offering a plausible reason: the hope of being invited onto BOTS. But while that may well be something Steven hopes for, it doesn't seem to be what's behind most stories that appear at such times.


In any case, I hope that neither this story nor anything else gets Steven or Kim onto BOTS.

When I think back on bb15, it's Steven who makes me feel slightly ill. I'd even rather see Helen on BOTS than him.

As an immigrant myself I must say you lot are pretty terrible with what you've said here. I do hope Kimberley is allowed to stay in the UK because I know what it is like to live in fear of being deported and I can only imagine the dread you would feel knowing you have to leave your whole life behind and move to the other side of the planet. It's not like she's hurt anyone for God's sake.

I find it strange how shes being kicked out now after getting married when she was in the UK for a long time after Big Brother had finished what took them so long to tell her to go?

So we have to like her because she is an immigrant and we have to agree that she should be allowed to stay? Do we also have to extend that to her racist husband or are you ok with us berating him for his terrible words aimed at other err immigrants

By the way she comes from the US not war torn Syria which is more or less what her husband was pointing out and trying to gain points for her about. Even if her relationship is true and leaving him would be hard for her why would she be living in fear about going back to America

Good glad to see the back of her, she's had her two seconds.....

She didn't apply for a new visa until December and it was brought up to them in March that there was a problem with her visa. When you factor Christmas into it and it usually takes 90 days anyway it's about right. I'm assuming as soon as she left the BB house she was trying to sort out what was going to be done with her previous visa. Like I said in an earlier post she had to be married to her ex to get a Residency Visa so maybe she was sorting out an annulment which was resolved by Dec.

There is a whole lot to the story they failed to mention and are leaving people to believe the Immigration dept are the bad guys and unjustly deporting her. I am sure to anyone with half a sense who had an application in front of them that showed someone just receiving a Visa application 9 months earlier with one man and has now applied for one with another would seem highly suspicious.

Thing is if this same scenario was by someone from Nigeria or an Eastern country the reaction a lot of the Goode's supporters are giving would be entirely different.

My memory may be hazy after a year but I was under the impression that before entering the BB house, she was moving between Europe and America so it's not as if she'll be uprooting herself. Maybe her ex will take her back.

I think I'd have more sympathy for her if her husband wasn't so ridiculous, why should Kim stay because she's a "white American" over an asylum seeker in need?

Wow Veri bit deep, I was saving my energies for the inevitable psychoanalysis for the new housemates but......


In the absence of evidence, interpretation is all we've got.


This isn't relevant to this potentially being their last chance. There are very few ex housemates that maintain any sort of media interest once they become ex- ex housemates and the focus shifts to the new housemates and this years soon to be ex housemates. Media coverage on housemates beyond the new intake if you like would be more beneficial to a "last chance" suggestion.


Because it could be their last opportunity, and this has potential for follow up. Either way he's received attention.


Yes, could be about priming in the run up to BB to its a bit damning to dismiss as nothing more than illusion. The fact is, the media have very little interest, with very few exceptions (eg Nikki who was given her own show) its self promotion that keep housemates in the public eye eg Aislene. As enthralled as I have been with every series, I remember very few of them because we don't hear anything beyond BB related shows.

If Steven doesn't want to fade into obscurity he has to give the media something to be interested in. Going to the papers with this story won't change the outcome for Kimberly but it will get them attention, his comments are unlikely to garner any sympathy though.


With respect Veri, noone knows for certain Stevens motivations and without researching previous relevant media interest and how it may have informed his actions, (sorry I dont care enough to do it) your judgement of plausible is only a guess the n the same way that anyone's comments are, with or without research only Steven has the answer. However, having watched Steven and his "self promotion", I think this could be about more than BOTS.

But anyway, do we really care beyond passing comment. He's old news, we'll be frothing at the mouth about a whole new set of housemates within a week.

Precisely.

I don't believe she was ever pregnant after (wasn't it?) a week or ten days or so...

Otherwise agreed...that cushion pregnancy 'spoof' couldn't have been in worse taste

If she was and there was an ectopic pregnancy I don't believe for one minute it was Steven's. Not that I'm a medical expert or anything so I'd be happy for anyone more in the know to correct me

Didn't the pair of them actually speak about 'the loss of their baby' in the media after he was evicted? I'm sure I recall something to the effect.

I have always suspected the relationship started before BB, in which case it just might have been true.
Either way, that pregnancy bump was just about the most tasteless thing I have ever seen. *shudder*

I don't think you've understood what I was saying.

So adamant it was his, that would be the only explanation
What gave you that suspicion?

Their body language was a bit too familiar from the start.

Yes they did, I'm sure the Star ran with the tale of woe!......She also appeared on SOTS days after her so called emergency operation with a cushion stuffed up her top, bleating about losing their baby. For someone who was allegedly far too ill to continue staying in the house, she looked remarkably well. ROLLEYES
TBH I find anything either of them say to be as far removed from the truth as you can possibly get.

I thought the opposite I still find her body language towards him leaves a lot to be desired

So there is less chance of the gruesome pair appearing in the new series now!

Yay!