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Official Snooker Thread (Part 7)
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Originally Posted by Inspiration:
“BBC 2 year extension. Until 2019. Not that long an extension? Is that normal?”
“BBC 2 year extension. Until 2019. Not that long an extension? Is that normal?”
Exactly what I thought, sounds suspiciously short. Hearn on BBC bigging it up smacks of dramatic irony - he's probably smirking inside having already sold out to Sky for 2020 onwards.
But still, we can enjoy it while it's still on at least.
Originally Posted by Gibman:
“Exactly what I thought, sounds suspiciously short. Hearn on BBC bigging it up smacks of dramatic irony - he's probably smirking inside having already sold out to Sky for 2020 onwards.
But still, we can enjoy it while it's still on at least.”
“Exactly what I thought, sounds suspiciously short. Hearn on BBC bigging it up smacks of dramatic irony - he's probably smirking inside having already sold out to Sky for 2020 onwards.
But still, we can enjoy it while it's still on at least.”
That will kill the sport if it goes to Sky.
Originally Posted by Inspiration:
“BBC 2 year extension. Until 2019. Not that long an extension? Is that normal?”
“BBC 2 year extension. Until 2019. Not that long an extension? Is that normal?”
yeah, its an extension to a contract that hasn’t come to an end. I suppose you cannot go too far ahead as you never know what will happen. But one thing Barry did say then was “but i fancy it will be extended a bit longer”.
Ticket sales generated a million for next year. Final session of the final – sold out. As Hazel said “The game has never been in better health.” All this despite Mark Selby obviously losing shedloads of fans and sponsors
Originally Posted by pixel_pixel:
“That will kill the sport if it goes to Sky.”
“That will kill the sport if it goes to Sky.”
Sky don't have any interest in snooker. Barney Francis, Tony's son (Tony who used to present the snooker on ITV ironically) is high up in Sky and dislikes the sport has gone on record as saying they have no plans to further their involvement
Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“The process of Darts hasn't changed though-its still standing in front of a board throwing three arrows-but they have dressed it up and made it louder. Darts lends itself to that kind of showbiz-Snooker doesn't, its Chess with balls(as it was once described), involves thought and tactical planning. You cant fit Snooker into Darts without you fundamentally change it, and I think you would be creating a different game-a Pool hybrid maybe-which would destroy it imo.”
“The process of Darts hasn't changed though-its still standing in front of a board throwing three arrows-but they have dressed it up and made it louder. Darts lends itself to that kind of showbiz-Snooker doesn't, its Chess with balls(as it was once described), involves thought and tactical planning. You cant fit Snooker into Darts without you fundamentally change it, and I think you would be creating a different game-a Pool hybrid maybe-which would destroy it imo.”
I disagree. They have totally "reinvented" darts as a spectacle, much more then just making it louder. You may think snooker doesnt lend itself to that kind of showbiz atmosphere but no one thought it would happen with darts or in cricket with T20. Granted, they have tweaked the game with T20 but the basics are still the same. Darts has shown you dont have to change the actual game at all to boost its popularity. All sports need thought and tactical planning, some even more so then snooker. To call it chess with balls does the game a disservice.
I understand completely why some people dont want change. Unfortunately you only have to look at a lot of the crucible crowd as the camera frequently pans to ageing, overweight bald men to see there is a problem with popularity with a new generation of fans. Ignoring this is worrying for the game.
I can't see it going to sky. I expect it to be extended when they get nearer to 2019. BBC is the home of snooker.
Originally Posted by FrankieFixer:
“He (Selby) is taking the game back the dark ages. You wonder why people don't consider it a sport and he's your answer. No excitement or flair or something to get the crowd going. He might be a nice guy or whatever, but no kid would want to grow up and be him.”
“He (Selby) is taking the game back the dark ages. You wonder why people don't consider it a sport and he's your answer. No excitement or flair or something to get the crowd going. He might be a nice guy or whatever, but no kid would want to grow up and be him.”
It's interesting hearing Shaun Murphy talking about when he and Selby were coming up through the juniors. Murphy says Selby was by far the worst breakbuilder of their generation of promising youngsters and it was only when he knuckled down to some hard work that it started to gradually improve and get anywhere near the level his peers were able to achieve with their superior natural ability.
It's patently obvious watching Selby now though that he still struggles very badly with the breakbuilding facet of the game, hence his willingness to be on the constant lookout for other means of winning frames.
Is it taking the game back to the snooker dark ages? In my opinion it probably is. I'm not saying everyone should be able to play, or should try to play, like Ronnie, but I do think a World champion should possess at least some degree of breakbuilding fluency.
Originally Posted by Terrence Chant:
“Sky don't have any interest in snooker.”
“Sky don't have any interest in snooker.”
I hope that's the case. But they used to say the same about F1.
Good news about the BBC. great news last week about Eurosport.
All we need now is the crucible extension and all will be perfect!
All we need now is the crucible extension and all will be perfect!
Originally Posted by pete137:
“I disagree. They have totally "reinvented" darts as a spectacle, much more then just making it louder. You may think snooker doesnt lend itself to that kind of showbiz atmosphere but no one thought it would happen with darts or in cricket with T20. Granted, they have tweaked the game with T20 but the basics are still the same. Darts has shown you dont have to change the actual game at all to boost its popularity. All sports need thought and tactical planning, some even more so then snooker. To call it chess with balls does the game a disservice.
I understand completely why some people dont want change. Unfortunately you only have to look at a lot of the crucible crowd as the camera frequently pans to ageing, overweight bald men to see there is a problem with popularity with a new generation of fans. Ignoring this is worrying for the game.”
“I disagree. They have totally "reinvented" darts as a spectacle, much more then just making it louder. You may think snooker doesnt lend itself to that kind of showbiz atmosphere but no one thought it would happen with darts or in cricket with T20. Granted, they have tweaked the game with T20 but the basics are still the same. Darts has shown you dont have to change the actual game at all to boost its popularity. All sports need thought and tactical planning, some even more so then snooker. To call it chess with balls does the game a disservice.
I understand completely why some people dont want change. Unfortunately you only have to look at a lot of the crucible crowd as the camera frequently pans to ageing, overweight bald men to see there is a problem with popularity with a new generation of fans. Ignoring this is worrying for the game.”
Yet the same guy who runs darts runs snooker and has made millions from both. How odd.
They have tried this with Snooker Shoutout, its a gimmick which works for one event a year. I would suggest you are very much in a very small minority if you think this is boring
Originally Posted by culttvfan:
“It's interesting hearing Shaun Murphy talking about when he and Selby were coming up through the juniors. Murphy says Selby was by far the worst breakbuilder of their generation of promising youngsters and it was only when he knuckled down to some hard work that it started to gradually improve and get anywhere near the level his peers were able to achieve with their superior natural ability.
It's patently obvious watching Selby now though that he still struggles very badly with the breakbuilding facet of the game and it is much harder work for him than for the majority of pros, hence his willingness to be on the constant lookout for other means of winning frames.
Is it taking the game back to the snooker dark ages? In my opinion it probably is. I'm not saying everyone should be able to play, or should try to play, like Ronnie, but I do think a World champion should possess at least some degree of breakbuilding fluency.”
“It's interesting hearing Shaun Murphy talking about when he and Selby were coming up through the juniors. Murphy says Selby was by far the worst breakbuilder of their generation of promising youngsters and it was only when he knuckled down to some hard work that it started to gradually improve and get anywhere near the level his peers were able to achieve with their superior natural ability.
It's patently obvious watching Selby now though that he still struggles very badly with the breakbuilding facet of the game and it is much harder work for him than for the majority of pros, hence his willingness to be on the constant lookout for other means of winning frames.
Is it taking the game back to the snooker dark ages? In my opinion it probably is. I'm not saying everyone should be able to play, or should try to play, like Ronnie, but I do think a World champion should possess at least some degree of breakbuilding fluency.”
Struggles with breakbuilding?
He's made 418 career centuries. Only Ronnie O'Sullivan, Stephen Hendry, John Higgins and Neil Robertson have made more.
He's one of the best break builders in the game.
Originally Posted by Darren Lethem:
“yeah, its an extension to a contract that hasn’t come to an end. I suppose you cannot go too far ahead as you never know what will happen. But one thing Barry did say then was “but i fancy it will be extended a bit longer”.
Ticket sales generated a million for next year. Final session of the final – sold out. As Hazel said “The game has never been in better health.” All this despite Mark Selby obviously losing shedloads of fans and sponsors”
“yeah, its an extension to a contract that hasn’t come to an end. I suppose you cannot go too far ahead as you never know what will happen. But one thing Barry did say then was “but i fancy it will be extended a bit longer”.
Ticket sales generated a million for next year. Final session of the final – sold out. As Hazel said “The game has never been in better health.” All this despite Mark Selby obviously losing shedloads of fans and sponsors
”
If Selby was all the entertainment on offer it'd wither and die. Luckily there are players from Asia who score high and other positive and exciting players. Even Ken Doherty on commentary was happy to see much better snooker today. That's what audiences want.
Originally Posted by culttvfan:
“It's interesting hearing Shaun Murphy talking about when he and Selby were coming up through the juniors. Murphy says Selby was by far the worst breakbuilder of their generation of promising youngsters and it was only when he knuckled down to some hard work that it started to gradually improve and get anywhere near the level his peers were able to achieve with their superior natural ability.
It's patently obvious watching Selby now though that he still struggles very badly with the breakbuilding facet of the game, hence his willingness to be on the constant lookout for other means of winning frames.
Is it taking the game back to the snooker dark ages? In my opinion it probably is. I'm not saying everyone should be able to play, or should try to play, like Ronnie, but I do think a World champion should possess at least some degree of breakbuilding fluency.”
“It's interesting hearing Shaun Murphy talking about when he and Selby were coming up through the juniors. Murphy says Selby was by far the worst breakbuilder of their generation of promising youngsters and it was only when he knuckled down to some hard work that it started to gradually improve and get anywhere near the level his peers were able to achieve with their superior natural ability.
It's patently obvious watching Selby now though that he still struggles very badly with the breakbuilding facet of the game, hence his willingness to be on the constant lookout for other means of winning frames.
Is it taking the game back to the snooker dark ages? In my opinion it probably is. I'm not saying everyone should be able to play, or should try to play, like Ronnie, but I do think a World champion should possess at least some degree of breakbuilding fluency.”
Yet he is 5th on the all time list of century makers in competition, way ahead of Shaun Murphy.
Originally Posted by pixel_pixel:
“That will kill the sport if it goes to Sky.”
“That will kill the sport if it goes to Sky.”
What sport has got worse since going to Sky?
Originally Posted by Darren Lethem:
“Yet he is 5th on the all time list of century makers in competition, way ahead of Shaun Murphy.”
“Yet he is 5th on the all time list of century makers in competition, way ahead of Shaun Murphy.”
Isn't ding on 400+ too?
Originally Posted by FrankieFixer:
“If Selby was all the entertainment on offer it'd wither and die. Luckily there are players from Asia who score high and other positive and exciting players. Even Ken Doherty on commentary was happy to see much better snooker today. That's what audiences want.”
“If Selby was all the entertainment on offer it'd wither and die. Luckily there are players from Asia who score high and other positive and exciting players. Even Ken Doherty on commentary was happy to see much better snooker today. That's what audiences want.”
5th highest century maker in snooker history yet he doenst score enough ? I am starting to think you know very little about snooker.
Are you ever going to show us these stats that Selby is driving people and sponsors away ? Or will you admit you were wrong ?
Welp i'm going to the crucibal next year. Got a quarter final session ticket. Looking forward to it. Never been to a snooker game in person but watched it for years on TV.
Originally Posted by Inspiration:
“Welp i'm going to the crucibal next year. Got a quarter final session ticket. Looking forward to it. Never been to a snooker game in person but watched it for years on TV.”
“Welp i'm going to the crucibal next year. Got a quarter final session ticket. Looking forward to it. Never been to a snooker game in person but watched it for years on TV.”
Ah well done
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