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Official Snooker Thread (Part 7)
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Amanda_Raymond
20-04-2016
What a match that was
zawtowers
20-04-2016
Originally Posted by Terrence Chant:
“Ding completes an excellent comeback, really pleased for him given his trials and tribulations of late.”

And I got the correct score and a shocker in the predictions game for that too! Didn't see it coming especially after Martin went 8-6 up but fair play to Ding, two centuries and some quality play there.
owen10
20-04-2016
Heys guys I have got a quiz question for you

Who is youngest player to have won a match at the Crucible
Mark F
20-04-2016
Think it might be Stephen Hendry?
clarky323
20-04-2016
Luca Brecel possibly?
Keyser_Soze1
20-04-2016
Originally Posted by clarky323:
“Luca Brecel possibly?”

Fred Davis?
Jimmy Connors
20-04-2016
Originally Posted by clarky323:
“Luca Brecel possibly?”

I thought he was the youngest to reach the Crucible, but he has never won a match there.
clarky323
20-04-2016
Originally Posted by Jimmy Connors:
“I thought he was the youngest to reach the Crucible, but he has never won a match there.”

Yeah your right, he lost to Stephen Maguire I think.

I was probably thinking of the UK Championship (Where he got to the Quarter Finals).
Terrence Chant
21-04-2016
Originally Posted by Mark F:
“Think it might be Stephen Hendry?”

Don't think there's much in it between Hendry and Ronnie, but yes I think it's just Stephen...
zawtowers
21-04-2016
Originally Posted by Terrence Chant:
“Don't think there's much in it between Hendry and Ronnie, but yes I think it's just Stephen...”

Stephen Hendry got to the quarters in 1987 - he was 18 years 97 days when he won in the first round and in the quarters lost to Joe Johnson.

Ronnie O'Sullivan beat Dennis Taylor in the first round in 1994 - he was 18 years 132 days at this point.

So yes, not that much in it at all!!
ATNotts
21-04-2016
I haven't been able to watch as many of the matches as i would have liked this year, but there is always talk about how the longer matches provide a sterner test than the best of 9 format used for most rounds in the main ranking tournaments.

However from what I have seen this year, few, if indeed any of the matches in the first round have been won by the player who is down after 9.

Is my perception true; and are there any anoraks here who know what kind of percentage of matches are won, in all rounds, over the past few years, by the player behind after 9?
mumbles26
21-04-2016
Is the Eurosport coverage today (21st) live?

Thanks
JSemple3
21-04-2016
Originally Posted by mumbles26:
“Is the Eurosport coverage today (21st) live?

Thanks”

Eurosport 1 live from 1pm as usual but Eurpsport 2 delayed to 3PM as they showing cycling first
zawtowers
21-04-2016
Originally Posted by mumbles26:
“Is the Eurosport coverage today (21st) live?”

Play starts at 1pm today which is probably why you can't see it. 1pm starts are today, Monday and next Thursday.
mumbles26
21-04-2016
Thanks zaw
zawtowers
21-04-2016
Originally Posted by ATNotts:
“However from what I have seen this year, few, if indeed any of the matches in the first round have been won by the player who is down after 9.”

Had a look into this, and so far only two matches have been turned round if a player was ahead after the first 9. In both cases it was 5-4 after 9:

Shaun Murphy 5-4 Anthony McGill (lost 8-10)
Robbie Williams 5-4 Ricky Walden (lost 8-10)
Amanda_Raymond
21-04-2016
Originally Posted by zawtowers:
“Had a look into this, and so far only two matches have been turned round if a player was ahead after the first 9. In both cases it was 5-4 after 9:

Shaun Murphy 5-4 Anthony McGill (lost 8-10)
Robbie Williams 5-4 Ricky Walden (lost 8-10)”

Judd Trump and Joe Perry will be hoping that number doesn't stay the same by the end of the day
ATNotts
21-04-2016
Originally Posted by zawtowers:
“Had a look into this, and so far only two matches have been turned round if a player was ahead after the first 9. In both cases it was 5-4 after 9:

Shaun Murphy 5-4 Anthony McGill (lost 8-10)
Robbie Williams 5-4 Ricky Walden (lost 8-10)”

2 from 15 so far then; i guess that does go to add weight to an argument supporting longer matches.

It will be interesting to see how many of the 25 frame matches are essentially decided at the 19 frame point.

i only really broached the question as, for those people who have bought a ticket at the venue, and even for those who can't necessarily watch all sessions of a match it could be slightly irritating only to be able to see (live) the first session. A bit like cricket or, for that matter, the first 3 days of a golf tournament. I'm struggling to think of many other sports in which a single match as opposed to a series such as the "World (?) Series Baseball is spread over more than one day.
Terrence Chant
21-04-2016
Originally Posted by zawtowers:
“Stephen Hendry got to the quarters in 1987 - he was 18 years 97 days when he won in the first round and in the quarters lost to Joe Johnson.

Ronnie O'Sullivan beat Dennis Taylor in the first round in 1994 - he was 18 years 132 days at this point.

So yes, not that much in it at all!!”

Blimey! Great report yesterday by the way Zaw, meant to say 👍🏻
zawtowers
21-04-2016
Originally Posted by Terrence Chant:
“Blimey! Great report yesterday by the way Zaw, meant to say 👍🏻”

Cheers. In fact when I was there Tuesday the piece with Hendry and Parrott has me in the background constantly. See here from 1:31:30 in!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...ound-afternoon
Jimmy Connors
21-04-2016
What a carry on that was replacing all those balls in the Trump match. Even after (what was it 9 minutes?) that they were still not right.

Surely there must be a better process than looking at screens from afar and pointing directional fingers
Darren Lethem
21-04-2016
Originally Posted by Jimmy Connors:
“What a carry on that was replacing all those balls in the Trump match. Even after (what was it 9 minutes?) that they were still not right.

Surely there must be a better process than looking at screens from afar and pointing directional fingers”

I must admit I cannot think of one
zawtowers
21-04-2016
Originally Posted by Jimmy Connors:
“What a carry on that was replacing all those balls in the Trump match. Even after (what was it 9 minutes?) that they were still not right.

Surely there must be a better process than looking at screens from afar and pointing directional fingers”

What you probably can't see is the large TV screen in portrait mode that the referee can see. It is at the far end of the table and the scorer (usually another ref) will be able to bring this up on this huge screen so that that referee can see the table and the screen view at the same time. The screen has an overlay view too so the idea is that the balls in the previous shot are shown with outlines (top view down) and the camera is then used to see where the balls are currently.

In practice that works pretty well, and it's an extra tool they brought in last year to help in those types of situation. Naturally the more balls moved, the more time it'll take!!
Jimmy Connors
21-04-2016
Originally Posted by Darren Lethem:
“I must admit I cannot think of one”

Neither can I to be honest.

Originally Posted by zawtowers:
“What you probably can't see is the large TV screen in portrait mode that the referee can see. It is at the far end of the table and the scorer (usually another ref) will be able to bring this up on this huge screen so that that referee can see the table and the screen view at the same time. The screen has an overlay view too so the idea is that the balls in the previous shot are shown with outlines (top view down) and the camera is then used to see where the balls are currently.

In practice that works pretty well, and it's an extra tool they brought in last year to help in those types of situation. Naturally the more balls moved, the more time it'll take!!”

Yes, this one was a real mess, and the balls were still not in the correct place as Judd was trying to tell them. We could see the second red (he was trying to hit originally) was incorrectly placed, but they were still not moving it. Nearly 10 minutes is a long time to stop a frame.

Admittedly (as you say) this took a while as so many balls were moved. Thankfully a rare occurrence.
Terrence Chant
21-04-2016
Poor old Marcel's having a testing afternoon! If nothing else it shows there's a lot more to being a ref than picking balls out of pockets!!
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