Moto G 4G 1st Gen Lollipop?

GavinAshford · 29-06-2015, 18:20

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I am finding lollipop to be a PITA. You now have to swipe screen first and then swipe a pattern or whatever.

Try using Smart Lock (under Security) - add a few Trusted Places and /or Bluetooth devices. I hardly ever have to enter my pin these days.

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Originally Posted by oilman

when using chrome browser you could switch to alternative site from chrome app. Now each session is seen as a separate item under the previous apps button (little square) which means they all get mixed up with other apps.

In Chrome go to Settings and turn off "Merge tabs and apps" and it'll be back to the old method.

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Originally Posted by oilman

When a call came before, it just took over phone - now you have to kind of select it too answer. I can't see how to set it to old way which I prefer.

Try installing a different Dialler app from the play store - theres many available.

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Originally Posted by oilman

TBH - I prefer the old kit-kat keyboards white keys on black rather than black on white.

in the Google keyboard settings (hold the comma key and then select the cog icon) select Appearance and Layouts and then chose your preferred keyboard theme.

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Originally Posted by oilman

Also, as I mentioned before, icons for apps on sd card do not get remembered on custom screens from stock launcher.
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This is a known issue, install a different launcher - e.g. Google Now launcher or Nova laucher.

oilman · 30-06-2015, 08:05

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Originally Posted by GavinAshford

Try using Smart Lock (under Security) - add a few Trusted Places and /or Bluetooth devices. I hardly ever have to enter my pin these days.

In Chrome go to Settings and turn off "Merge tabs and apps" and it'll be back to the old method.

Try installing a different Dialler app from the play store - theres many available.

in the Google keyboard settings (hold the comma key and then select the cog icon) select Appearance and Layouts and then chose your preferred keyboard theme.

This is a known issue, install a different launcher - e.g. Google Now launcher or Nova laucher.

Many thanks for help.

1. chrome settings - worked fine
2. trusted places - better than before.
3. dialler - will try a different one
4. Already worked out about NOVA launcher.

cheers

LCDMAN · 06-07-2015, 21:09

Just downloading it now - EE Sim only contract....

LCDMAN · 08-07-2015, 17:21

S'ok. Thanks for the tips in previous posts but I'm neither under or over whelmed...

Have I missed something?

Zebb · 08-07-2015, 17:29

I've wondered the same thing, everybody demanding the latest Lollipop version but why?

lightspeed2398 · 08-07-2015, 17:54

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Originally Posted by Zebb

I've wondered the same thing, everybody demanding the latest Lollipop version but why?

5.1.1 fixes a lot of bugs that were present in the original version of Lollipop.

LCDMAN · 08-07-2015, 18:19

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Originally Posted by lightspeed2398

5.1.1 fixes a lot of bugs that were present in the original version of Lollipop.

I upgraded from Kit-Kat. This is the first thing I could go to, never been offered an earlier Lollipop version by EE/Motorola. It's still kinda meh.....

LCDMAN · 09-07-2015, 20:25

Had a day to play now, it's ok. Tweaked a few bits to my liking and the "Playstation" esque bottom button icons are growing on me.

The stock messenger app for SMS seems a bit slow now though - any thoughts as to an alternative?

Mick Jones · 09-07-2015, 21:14

I like Textra.

Gigabit · 09-07-2015, 21:21

+1 for Textra.

LCDMAN · 09-07-2015, 21:32

Thanks, I'll give that a go - gets lots of good reviews.

jchamier · 09-07-2015, 22:45

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Originally Posted by LCDMAN

I upgraded from Kit-Kat. This is the first thing I could go to, never been offered an earlier Lollipop version by EE/Motorola. It's still kinda meh.....

Moto G 4G 1st gen was only offered Lollipop with 5.1 - the 3G version had the buggier 5.0 and 5.0.1 releases.

LCDMAN · 10-07-2015, 18:26

Loving Textra - thanks folks, can't believe I'd never thought about anything other than stock SMS app.

RedOrDead36 · 11-07-2015, 01:42

Hate this version.

Can't switch to vibrate or silent by just pushing power button!
Swiping up to unlock or open an app? Odd.
Half of my digital clock has disappeared. 01:??
Email client feels unresponsive when trying to get messages from the server.
Do I really need who the owner of the phone is in the top right hand corner? Why would you want to add a guest - bloatware.
The battery runs down faster too!

Rubbish how do I go back to 4.4?

oilman · 11-07-2015, 07:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedOrDead36

Hate this version.

Can't switch to vibrate or silent by just pushing power button!
Swiping up to unlock or open an app? Odd.
Half of my digital clock has disappeared. 01:??
Email client feels unresponsive when trying to get messages from the server.
Do I really need who the owner of the phone is in the top right hand corner? Why would you want to add a guest - bloatware.
The battery runs down faster too!

Rubbish how do I go back to 4.4?

Only good points I see are:

1. trusted places mean I do not have to use swipe pattern as much.

2. the annoying kitkat restrictions on writing to sd card have been relaxed a bit.

re. silent mode, intall silent mode widget, and you csn toggle between silent, vibrate or normal. Not easy to revert to kitkat.

Tadpole · 13-07-2015, 21:17

Occasionally mine will do the "optimizing applications" loop on a cold boot, as I have lots of apps installed it means the phone can take over 15 minutes to start up. Has happened twice in the last week to me. At other times it starts up normally.

farmer bob · 13-07-2015, 22:51

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Originally Posted by farmer bob

I've disabled the Motorola update services App on my Moto G, more than happy with 4.4.4 kitkat just now.

I gave in, curiosity got the better of me. Preferred kitkat tbh, not keen on the white/aqua coloured settings menu, battery seems to reduce quicker & if you accidentally touch google search whilst not connected to mobile data or wifi an annoying message pops up informing that you ain't connected. This message only disappears if you switch phone off and on again.
Textra app is great though. Thanks 👍

Kilohertz · 16-07-2015, 23:55

Updated my Moto G last weekend.

It's been a great phone up to now but next to useless after this "update". Wished I'd never bothered and stuck to KitKat instead.

Phone unresponsive, slow, battery drain horrendous, handset gets hot.

Will be doing a factory reset as soon as I can backup all essential data. (Most already backed up on my Google account but some recent items mysteriously not made it!)

jonmorris · 17-07-2015, 00:55

Do you have a lot of photos/videos on the phone? After doing an update, you can sometimes find it takes a long time to rebuild thumbnail caches and the like - so it settles after a day or two.

(Edit: I read you did it last weekend so that's perhaps not it!)

Kilohertz · 19-07-2015, 20:15

Thanks jonmorris for your reply. Sorry I've only just caught up with this thread again.

Funnily enough, since my posting my phone has actually settled down, and the photos mysteriously missing from my linked Google account have now appeared.

Although the phone's clock was showing a time of 23:12 (?) when I got up on Friday morning, since then everything has worked fine. The battery drain and hot handset issues also seem to have gone away, so fingers crossed it's sorted itself out.

All that trying to re-boot in recovery mode whilst on the phone to my network's tech support, looking at a picture of a dead robot on my screen, must have eventually worked after all!

RedOrDead36 · 21-07-2015, 22:40

Camera light keeps coming on when locked in pocket! Causing numerous embarrassing situations. Need to lock the screen properly with a code or pattern.

Still only half a digital clock.

jonmorris · 22-07-2015, 09:07

I thoroughly recommend the flip cover for the Moto G. Not sure how much they cost these days, but I think they're great.

GB-UK · 23-07-2015, 16:12

Has this update been pulled? Bought a Moto G LTE version yesterday and its on 4.4.4 but says that there are no updates avaialble? I remember updating the wifes Moto G a while back to 5.01 I believe!

GB-UK · 23-07-2015, 17:31

Can you believe it! Thought I would turn off and switch back on to see if it picked up. Found a couple of app updates including the motorola update one, once updated it picked up the firmware update!

Zebb · 27-07-2015, 18:02

Material Design, Sleep timer, Recording, tuner usability improvements and user settings enhancements. (This application has been designed to work on Motorola phones with an enabled FM chipset and running Android 5.x, Lollipop).

Will record FM radio but only in mono. Good update.

29-06-2015, 18:20	#51
GavinAshford Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 229	Quote: Originally Posted by oilman I am finding lollipop to be a PITA. You now have to swipe screen first and then swipe a pattern or whatever. Try using Smart Lock (under Security) - add a few Trusted Places and /or Bluetooth devices. I hardly ever have to enter my pin these days. Quote: Originally Posted by oilman when using chrome browser you could switch to alternative site from chrome app. Now each session is seen as a separate item under the previous apps button (little square) which means they all get mixed up with other apps. In Chrome go to Settings and turn off "Merge tabs and apps" and it'll be back to the old method. Quote: Originally Posted by oilman When a call came before, it just took over phone - now you have to kind of select it too answer. I can't see how to set it to old way which I prefer. Try installing a different Dialler app from the play store - theres many available. Quote: Originally Posted by oilman TBH - I prefer the old kit-kat keyboards white keys on black rather than black on white. in the Google keyboard settings (hold the comma key and then select the cog icon) select Appearance and Layouts and then chose your preferred keyboard theme. Quote: Originally Posted by oilman Also, as I mentioned before, icons for apps on sd card do not get remembered on custom screens from stock launcher. . This is a known issue, install a different launcher - e.g. Google Now launcher or Nova laucher.

27-07-2015, 18:02	#75
Zebb Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 652	Motorola FM Radio updated today. Material Design, Sleep timer, Recording, tuner usability improvements and user settings enhancements. (This application has been designed to work on Motorola phones with an enabled FM chipset and running Android 5.x, Lollipop). Will record FM radio but only in mono. Good update.

30-06-2015, 08:05	#52
oilman Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,854	Quote: Originally Posted by GavinAshford Try using Smart Lock (under Security) - add a few Trusted Places and /or Bluetooth devices. I hardly ever have to enter my pin these days. In Chrome go to Settings and turn off "Merge tabs and apps" and it'll be back to the old method. Try installing a different Dialler app from the play store - theres many available. in the Google keyboard settings (hold the comma key and then select the cog icon) select Appearance and Layouts and then chose your preferred keyboard theme. This is a known issue, install a different launcher - e.g. Google Now launcher or Nova laucher. Many thanks for help. 1. chrome settings - worked fine 2. trusted places - better than before. 3. dialler - will try a different one 4. Already worked out about NOVA launcher. cheers

06-07-2015, 21:09	#53
LCDMAN Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Yorkshire, God's County Posts: 5,182	Just downloading it now - EE Sim only contract....

08-07-2015, 17:21	#54
LCDMAN Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Yorkshire, God's County Posts: 5,182	S'ok. Thanks for the tips in previous posts but I'm neither under or over whelmed... Have I missed something?

08-07-2015, 17:29	#55
Zebb Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 652	I've wondered the same thing, everybody demanding the latest Lollipop version but why?

08-07-2015, 17:54	#56
lightspeed2398 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 1,325	Quote: Originally Posted by Zebb I've wondered the same thing, everybody demanding the latest Lollipop version but why? 5.1.1 fixes a lot of bugs that were present in the original version of Lollipop.

08-07-2015, 18:19	#57
LCDMAN Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Yorkshire, God's County Posts: 5,182	Quote: Originally Posted by lightspeed2398 5.1.1 fixes a lot of bugs that were present in the original version of Lollipop. I upgraded from Kit-Kat. This is the first thing I could go to, never been offered an earlier Lollipop version by EE/Motorola. It's still kinda meh.....

09-07-2015, 20:25	#58
LCDMAN Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Yorkshire, God's County Posts: 5,182	Had a day to play now, it's ok. Tweaked a few bits to my liking and the "Playstation" esque bottom button icons are growing on me. The stock messenger app for SMS seems a bit slow now though - any thoughts as to an alternative?

09-07-2015, 21:14	#59
Mick Jones Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Derby (using Waltham) Posts: 244	I like Textra.

09-07-2015, 21:21	#60
Gigabit Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 2,887	+1 for Textra.

09-07-2015, 21:32	#61
LCDMAN Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Yorkshire, God's County Posts: 5,182	Thanks, I'll give that a go - gets lots of good reviews.

09-07-2015, 22:45	#62
jchamier Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: This forum Posts: 3,392	Quote: Originally Posted by LCDMAN I upgraded from Kit-Kat. This is the first thing I could go to, never been offered an earlier Lollipop version by EE/Motorola. It's still kinda meh..... Moto G 4G 1st gen was only offered Lollipop with 5.1 - the 3G version had the buggier 5.0 and 5.0.1 releases.

10-07-2015, 18:26	#63
LCDMAN Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Yorkshire, God's County Posts: 5,182	Loving Textra - thanks folks, can't believe I'd never thought about anything other than stock SMS app.

11-07-2015, 01:42	#64
RedOrDead36 Inactive Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 1,595	Hate this version. Can't switch to vibrate or silent by just pushing power button! Swiping up to unlock or open an app? Odd. Half of my digital clock has disappeared. 01:?? Email client feels unresponsive when trying to get messages from the server. Do I really need who the owner of the phone is in the top right hand corner? Why would you want to add a guest - bloatware. The battery runs down faster too! Rubbish how do I go back to 4.4?

11-07-2015, 07:48	#65
oilman Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,854	Quote: Originally Posted by RedOrDead36 Hate this version. Can't switch to vibrate or silent by just pushing power button! Swiping up to unlock or open an app? Odd. Half of my digital clock has disappeared. 01:?? Email client feels unresponsive when trying to get messages from the server. Do I really need who the owner of the phone is in the top right hand corner? Why would you want to add a guest - bloatware. The battery runs down faster too! Rubbish how do I go back to 4.4? Only good points I see are: 1. trusted places mean I do not have to use swipe pattern as much. 2. the annoying kitkat restrictions on writing to sd card have been relaxed a bit. re. silent mode, intall silent mode widget, and you csn toggle between silent, vibrate or normal. Not easy to revert to kitkat.

13-07-2015, 21:17	#66
Tadpole Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Solihull, West Mids Posts: 1,609	Occasionally mine will do the "optimizing applications" loop on a cold boot, as I have lots of apps installed it means the phone can take over 15 minutes to start up. Has happened twice in the last week to me. At other times it starts up normally.

13-07-2015, 22:51	#67
farmer bob Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: The United Kingdom Posts: 14,997	Quote: Originally Posted by farmer bob I've disabled the Motorola update services App on my Moto G, more than happy with 4.4.4 kitkat just now. I gave in, curiosity got the better of me. Preferred kitkat tbh, not keen on the white/aqua coloured settings menu, battery seems to reduce quicker & if you accidentally touch google search whilst not connected to mobile data or wifi an annoying message pops up informing that you ain't connected. This message only disappears if you switch phone off and on again. Textra app is great though. Thanks 👍

16-07-2015, 23:55	#68
Kilohertz Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 25	Updated my Moto G last weekend. It's been a great phone up to now but next to useless after this "update". Wished I'd never bothered and stuck to KitKat instead. Phone unresponsive, slow, battery drain horrendous, handset gets hot. Will be doing a factory reset as soon as I can backup all essential data. (Most already backed up on my Google account but some recent items mysteriously not made it!)

17-07-2015, 00:55	#69
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	Do you have a lot of photos/videos on the phone? After doing an update, you can sometimes find it takes a long time to rebuild thumbnail caches and the like - so it settles after a day or two. (Edit: I read you did it last weekend so that's perhaps not it!)

19-07-2015, 20:15	#70
Kilohertz Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 25	Thanks jonmorris for your reply. Sorry I've only just caught up with this thread again. Funnily enough, since my posting my phone has actually settled down, and the photos mysteriously missing from my linked Google account have now appeared. Although the phone's clock was showing a time of 23:12 (?) when I got up on Friday morning, since then everything has worked fine. The battery drain and hot handset issues also seem to have gone away, so fingers crossed it's sorted itself out. All that trying to re-boot in recovery mode whilst on the phone to my network's tech support, looking at a picture of a dead robot on my screen, must have eventually worked after all!

21-07-2015, 22:40	#71
RedOrDead36 Inactive Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 1,595	Camera light keeps coming on when locked in pocket! Causing numerous embarrassing situations. Need to lock the screen properly with a code or pattern. Still only half a digital clock.

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22-07-2015, 09:07	#72
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	I thoroughly recommend the flip cover for the Moto G. Not sure how much they cost these days, but I think they're great.

23-07-2015, 16:12	#73
GB-UK Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 366	Has this update been pulled? Bought a Moto G LTE version yesterday and its on 4.4.4 but says that there are no updates avaialble? I remember updating the wifes Moto G a while back to 5.01 I believe!

23-07-2015, 17:31	#74
GB-UK Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 366	Can you believe it! Thought I would turn off and switch back on to see if it picked up. Found a couple of app updates including the motorola update one, once updated it picked up the firmware update!